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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: You dick cheese mother fuckers

Waaah.

There you can quote unquote it losers.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject:

You see from all my old bitching and moaning. It's come true some of the favoured classes are getting it up the ass.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject:

Uhm, ...question. Since now hybrids are added to the lot of classes that do not dodge, haven't you made concentration (combat superiority) near useless against them?

Since concentration hurts dodge basically,....it's not a problem necessarily for hybrids to be in combat inferiority and rely on their spells...hmm?

I mean, being even or dominated in attack potential even when I'm the one in combat superiority, ...is kind of discouraging ya know?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject:

So concentrate on keeping the weapon advantage Amdorin... Besides, if you can keep weapon advantage while they use a two handed weapon, you can now overcome both their defenses (I'm assuming set parry still takes into consideration weapon types). If they shield it up, barrage+weap advantage.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject:

That's like saying dispel magic is useless because your opponent isnt sanced. Shocked
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Remmenon



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: of course it does

Oh my god you retards.. of course it does. I mean palis and dks are useless and davarius's little comment about

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That's like saying dispel magic is useless because your opponent isnt sanced


that is the most bullshit answer I've ever heard.. cause you know armor really stops alot and so does protection but that's besides the fact that warriors vs. Dks or palis means that concentration is useless against them. SEE WHAT THE FUCKING CHANGES DO? IT'S LIKE THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT.. YOU DON"T FUCKING KNOW UNTIL YOU DO IT AND THEN IT"S TOO LATE. I know you can't change it back now davarius because then you'd basically be saying you're wrong and lordy knows you can't do that so you'll have the dk's suffer, the palis suffer, the warriors suffer, the berserkers suffer because concentration is now a useless skill unless you're fighting warriors or mages... because the other hybrids can't dodge. Good thinking. Not like I'm playing but good thinking none the less..

p.s. don't fucking try to cover your ass with bullshit answer's like that dispelling magic comment because the only guys that can do that is the classes that aren't warriors/sub-class warriors(ninja's and thieves) and that has nothing to do with the warriors/berserkers skill concentration.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject:

You were complaining that warriors are overpowered.. and now you're complaining that they got one of their tools for dealing with dkns and paladins removed?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: of course it does

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I revel in the knowledge of your insurmountable anguish. We need more such whine posts!

By the way, by toning down multiple overpowered classes, it doesn't make them suffer.. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject:

Its not "concentrate is useless" vs paladins, its "concentrate is not required" because they don't have dodge. I dont think paladins are going to "pwn even in inferior combat style" when they dont even have dodge to begin with anymore, and they're still weapon ward-less leaving them wide open to the skills. Its more like, if paladins didnt have sanc/cure, they'd get raped mighty hard by a warrior dual wielding foreign weapons (easy to do since pals only get mace/sword/polearm/staff) on him with a suit of damroll eq to speed things along.

I dont see how you managed to look at it totally f'ed up like that... we didnt remove the skill from the warrior, we removed the DODGE from the paladin. You think a warrior would be better off if they kept a nerfed version of dodge just so warriors have to keep combat style to shit on their defs? I'm just lost for words here.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: trashed

Heheh, maybe my last post shoulda been in the drunk thread cause I was FUBARed when I posted it hahaa.. Twisted Evil
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Mendek



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject:

Well, they could have had a nerfed dodge like invokers have a nerfed shield block... I haven't played enought to understand this whole set parry thing, but the act does seem a little odd to me.
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