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ewils03
Joined: 05 Jan 2015 Posts: 153
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Invoker < pretty much everyone
Opponents can switch out weapons faster than an invoker can switch shields (or just dual wield phys/mag weapons for the fighters), or simply run out of mana, and they can't heal fast enough to keep up or effectively use tendrils. They took a nasty hit with that slow nerf. |
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Kato
Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Posts: 219
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Davairus, keep in mind that if a paladin is fighting an invoker, the invoker is probably evil. With protection, hellstream probably does less than wrath |
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Olyn Immortal
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 3247 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hellstream bypasses all protections if I'm not mistaken, which I might be. |
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m1coftw
Joined: 05 May 2015 Posts: 265
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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hellstream used to be badass, but it always got reduced vs sanc/protection. now it also gets reduced vs aff. save.
Rend is what bypasses saves and quite possibly protection too, idk, i havent had any goodies to fight necros. |
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Olyn Immortal
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 3247 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Confirmed. Protection spells like protection from evil, shield of words, etc do not reduce hellstream damage. |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10348 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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ahha @ people who dont know everything reminding me things they are mistaken about
suck a dick sirs. |
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m1coftw
Joined: 05 May 2015 Posts: 265
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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i acknowledge the ownage
/bow |
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Nycticora
Joined: 09 Feb 2013 Posts: 2277
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'd believe invokers are underpowered had I not made one that was unkillable by any means except assassinate while pip was simultaneously destroying everyone with one. |
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m1coftw
Joined: 05 May 2015 Posts: 265
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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that assassinate on you was so sweet, i still see it in my dreams |
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Kato
Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Posts: 219
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Pip wasn't destroying everyone. He went like 15-7 which is terrible for him. And you know as well as I do that any uncaballed class with prot shield and ward is 'unkillable' |
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Tiqa
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 510 Location: West Coast
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Is Pip and m1co the same person? |
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Xenyar Emissary
Joined: 26 May 2010 Posts: 600
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Tiqa, you make me chuckle sometimes. I'm glad you're around. No, pip and m1co are not the same people. Pip is pip, or Thorgoth, his forum name now since he is and Imm. |
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Kedaleam Immortal
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Wait... Pip is an Imm? What did I come back to? |
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