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Shadows and swords.

 
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raginggnome



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:55 pm    Post subject: Shadows and swords.

I was thinking, with both thieves and shadows really relying on daggers for sidestep, what if you chose sword as a favored weapon and gained a similar style of attack(less damage since you would have better parrying, and maybe having a chance of a tripping as well). And similarly if you chose flails, you could uncanny attack with them. Making it more of a defensive or offensive style choice.
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:17 am    Post subject:

Re: swords, first you may wish to ask yourself why on earth we allowed sidestep to deal out tons of damage. The answer is because its (a) one-handed, (b) daggers have fairly low parry stats. and (c) to promote these rogue classes preferring to run with small, accurate bladed weapons. Now obviously this is AR and you will run with whatever works best for you. We've long artificially made it daggers for thieves, the best one you can get, because of backstab.

Re: uncanny attack with flails. Its the same reason as above, its to do with stats, and also that we're promoting thieves taking advantage of surprise by using improvised weapons, like a bar stool or something.

p.s. that wasn't a disagreement just a mention of what this suggestion is up against
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Ty



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:19 am    Post subject:

Short swords, maybe? Those are really just daggers with a couple more inches.......
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Ty



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:30 am    Post subject:

Bar stools? Has an idea been toyed with about a skill for the rogue classes (thief, shadow, monk) that would utilize the surrounding area for a decent attack?

City: "You seize a stool and throw it at *****, knocking them off balance."
Forest: "You grab a vine and wrap it around ****'s neck, choking their air."
Mountain: "You dislodge a boulder that crashes down on ****"
Sewers/Mines: "You grab slime from the floor and throw it in ****'s eyes" (or maybe in their face for a disease).
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Nycticora



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:35 pm    Post subject:

I think if we gave them sword, swords would immediately be better for them than daggers overall. Especially if you could sidestep with them.

Bards have your bar stool skill already.
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