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Fiery Fang set and Engrave

 
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Grayden



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Fiery Fang set and Engrave

I have heard the Fiery Fang set is not great and figured that the required weapons are holding it back. I tried to engrave some rare weapons and had no luck. This has left me with two questions.

>Can you engrave weapons?

>Can we update the Fiery Fang set?

Thank you.
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Olyn
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject:

I see where you're coming from with this, but the set is sort of based on those two weapons. I'll give this some thought.
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Grayden



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject:

I was able to engrave the demon talisman with the flame cape, so at least we know engrave is not broken, just being stubborn with weapons.
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tayyah



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject:

should just be a stepping stone between gear right? it's hardly even a mid game set. I'd say use as is and just build your way into the end game rares/sets
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Faelon
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:59 pm    Post subject:

I think that was intentional. Some items were intended to be without the ability to engrave, I assume, to keep the sets from getting too powerful.
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Nycticora



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:10 am    Post subject:

yeah red dragon without the set is pretty buff by itself because it has high AC, as long as you counteract the dex loss. But there are better sets for that level in my opinion.

I wouldn't mess with it without putting some thought in. It's pretty unique to have a set that requires dual wielding to get its benefit. But, that's also its downside.

Also remember that at low levels (20s) the magic damage from the weapons is significantly more powerful than the equivalent physical damage would be, because magic AC is much rarer than pierce/bash/slash.

I think this set would be best on a thief or shadow, if they get sword
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Grayden



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject:

I appreciate the consideration and input

I had thought, well you have to get the items to engrave one so why not, but now I am leaning to the idea that those two weapons are more iconic and needed for the set.
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Ergorion



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject:

Dude, Grayden. What's up? Been a while.
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Grayden



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject:

Ergorion, not much, sent you a PM, anyone else curious I have been spooning with a darkenbeast, you missed nothing.

Having tested the damage output for fiery fang, I think doubling the damage granted from the set would fix it. The average damage for those weapons is about 5 lower than desirable. The set grants roughly 5 points so bump that to 10 to bring the average up.

I was getting the same damage with a dangerous dagger and red dragon shield as the full set.

Full disclosure I am completely bias as I have been engraving things with Fiery Fangs.
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Ergorion



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject:

Yeah but you still get an aff break and aff saves from the set right? Fireball.
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Ceridwel
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject:

I'm 99.9% sure weapons cannot be engraved, by design.
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