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ewils03



Joined: 05 Jan 2015
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:10 pm    Post subject:

Invoker < pretty much everyone

Opponents can switch out weapons faster than an invoker can switch shields (or just dual wield phys/mag weapons for the fighters), or simply run out of mana, and they can't heal fast enough to keep up or effectively use tendrils. They took a nasty hit with that slow nerf.
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Kato



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject:

Davairus, keep in mind that if a paladin is fighting an invoker, the invoker is probably evil. With protection, hellstream probably does less than wrath
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Olyn
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:20 pm    Post subject:

Hellstream bypasses all protections if I'm not mistaken, which I might be.
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m1coftw



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:24 pm    Post subject:

hellstream used to be badass, but it always got reduced vs sanc/protection. now it also gets reduced vs aff. save.

Rend is what bypasses saves and quite possibly protection too, idk, i havent had any goodies to fight necros.
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Olyn
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:41 pm    Post subject:

Confirmed. Protection spells like protection from evil, shield of words, etc do not reduce hellstream damage.
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:12 pm    Post subject:

ahha @ people who dont know everything reminding me things they are mistaken about

suck a dick sirs.
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m1coftw



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject:

i acknowledge the ownage

/bow
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Nycticora



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:15 pm    Post subject:

I'd believe invokers are underpowered had I not made one that was unkillable by any means except assassinate while pip was simultaneously destroying everyone with one.
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m1coftw



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:08 pm    Post subject:

that assassinate on you was so sweet, i still see it in my dreams
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Kato



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:47 pm    Post subject:

Pip wasn't destroying everyone. He went like 15-7 which is terrible for him. And you know as well as I do that any uncaballed class with prot shield and ward is 'unkillable'
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Tiqa



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:48 am    Post subject:

Is Pip and m1co the same person?
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Xenyar
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Joined: 26 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:30 am    Post subject:

Tiqa, you make me chuckle sometimes. I'm glad you're around. No, pip and m1co are not the same people. Pip is pip, or Thorgoth, his forum name now since he is and Imm.
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Kedaleam
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:56 am    Post subject:

Wait... Pip is an Imm? What did I come back to?
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