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Favorite Cabal

 
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What was/is your favorite cabal to play in?
Knight
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
Legion
25%
 25%  [ 6 ]
Justice
20%
 20%  [ 5 ]
Warlord
20%
 20%  [ 5 ]
Keeper
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Mystic
8%
 8%  [ 2 ]
Herald
8%
 8%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 24

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ewils03



Joined: 05 Jan 2015
Posts: 153

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:37 pm    Post subject: Favorite Cabal

Past or present, and for a little distraction, which is the favorite cabal you have played in?
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Ozaru



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject:

Keepers by far
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m1coftw



Joined: 05 May 2015
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:38 pm    Post subject:

Heralds and Mystics aren't cabals.
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ewils03



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:42 pm    Post subject:

Semantics, m1co, semantics.
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Arishel



Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject:

Mystic used to be cabal, and I thoroughly enjoyed them as such.
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Faelon
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject:

Primary reason keepers aren't fun for me, is the amount of time it takes to refit if someone poofs all your equipment. It's arduous. Problem is, they also want to take and sacrifice everyone's rares if there is a fight, so, it can get a bit OP if they are given the ability to just refit instantly. That cabal probably needs a rethink at some point.
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Kornhole



Joined: 15 Aug 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:33 am    Post subject:

Ozaru, why are there no votes for Keeper?
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Nycticora



Joined: 09 Feb 2013
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:46 am    Post subject:

keepers don't poll well
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Davairus
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Joined: 16 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:56 am    Post subject:

wait what
keepers cant re-equip? i thought their problem was the exact opposite
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Nycticora



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject:

yeah they poll really badly
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Faelon
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject:

The fact that you've played this long and still have no idea what you're talking about, is seriously shocking.

In order to refit, Keepers have three ways to go about doing it.

Treant thews or HP/AC set up, whichever is better for your class. This armor setup, while usable, is certainly not going to put you in good standing next to a medium - good rared out pker. You are going to be out damaged.

Gambling - there are two ways to gamble. One is a cabal secret, but requires a metric ton of work, unless you manage to get a good kill in OR you are an invoker. The latter is nice, but it's still a lot of farming.

Gambling 2 - Gold farming is required for this method, but since it is for gambled armor, you never know what you're going to get and if it is going to be useful. There are a variety of shops that the Keepers can choose from, which narrows the randomized process down a bit, but it isn't cheap to go down this route.

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Any cabal or character outside of Keepers have methods which include the above. A person can, if they are smart, get the non-rare outfit of choice, engrave it with medium rares and move on to killing/hunting/buying new rares to fill it in. Relics are easy to obtain, compared with the (cabal secret).

All in all - it is easier to outfit any other cabal, or really character, then it is to outfit a Keeper.

Oh yes, trololo-ottif-lolololol, when you want to raise a point, consider doing so, rather then making yourself look like a mouth breather.
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Dogran
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Joined: 13 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject:

Faelon pretty much hit it on the head.
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Davairus
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Joined: 16 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject:

i thought keepers just bought auction eq , sacced it for their yin yang tokens or whatever and enjoyed lots of easy eq
i just went to rimath and there seven rares on it right now that a keeper could sac
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Faelon
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject:

That's not a ton of tokens and again, you're relying on gambling. Merely bringing up the things I saw in keepers and the difficulties that I didn't like.
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Ergorion



Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:28 am    Post subject:

If you gamble right as a keeper, it doesn't take as much gold as you think. If you're blowing more than 100k to get a base level gambled suit, you're doing it wrong.

Let me clarify, by blow more than 100k I mean you start with 100k on your person and gamble correctly. You will certainly spend more than 100k during the course of your gambles, but you won't need starting capital greater than that.
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Andrael



Joined: 15 Jan 2013
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:37 am    Post subject:

Just try to recruit a half-elf bard who can haggle it for ya
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Nycticora



Joined: 09 Feb 2013
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:38 am    Post subject:

the only thing I'd change about Keeper is allowing anyone who pledges to a neutral deity to join
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m1coftw



Joined: 05 May 2015
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:18 am    Post subject:

Didn't really have a problem with my keepers just using threat thews, back when they didn't even have gambled gear nor could use it.

Is atonement gone or something?
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