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Davairus
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Small change to give command

Not really worth a change note.. but anyway, example:

Code:

You give a Golden Aegis to Darsul the King.
Darsul the King says 'Thanks.  I hope you found it useful.'
Darsul the King wears a Golden Aegis as a shield.


The lightwalker mobs wear their items if you give them back. This only applies to rares which belong to them, so dont try anything clever like suiting dryads out in living wood. It should come in handy for when you just request an item for the ID and dont really want it.

By the way, this means if someone goes inactive with a bunch of lightwalker rares, its totally them at fault for hoarding, and nothing to do with them being unable to give back the eq or sac it back into circulation or something.
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Gygh



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject:

Thats really useful and all.. but isn't golden aegis worn on the torso? Somebody slap me if I'm wrong.

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a Golden Aegis
Object 'aegis golden breastplate' is type armor, material gold.
Extra flags: glow hum magic anti_evil anti_neutral.
Weight is 30, value is 6, level is 46.
Armor class is 13 pierce, 13 bash, 12 slash, and 7 vs. magic.
Affects strength by 1.
Affects damroll by 2.
Affects hitroll by 1.
Casts giant strength.
Rare item.
(invokation.net)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject:

*slaps Gygh*
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject:

It used to be worn on the torso. Its a builder mistake.. an aegis is a big shield.
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gomer



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject:

Is it possible to give an item back to the mob if the mob has the item?

Example: In Vaganorth's graveyard post he had the golden aegis. If he would have tried to return his rares before he deleted, but Darsul was carrying the aegis because of a reboot, then would you still be able to return it? And if so would Darsul be carrying 2 aegis?
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Ronus
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject:

I'd expect the code to work exactly the same. Except you'll see him remove one aegis to wear the other. He'll just have 1 in his inventory so that two people could request it. Though if a reboot took place, expect 1 of them to dissapear. Or you can test it out and see what happens.
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject:

Ok its pretty clear this simple idea was a huge leap forward for request.. so I've updated the request policies. Much shorter and sweeter. Here's the details:

Code:
'REQUEST'
Syntax:  request <object> <target>

Lightwalkers may request equipment from good-aligned creatures.  If they
are experienced enough, the creature will grant them help by offering them
some gear.  The requester will enter a few minutes of meditation after
requesting, awed by the goodness of the gesture from his new friend.

WARNING!
* Request is based upon trust.  If you request an item, the creature
trusts that you are experienced enough AND in need.  Do not abuse this
trust by giving it away to the inexperienced, or selling it.  Sacrifice
it if you no longer need it, or return it to where it belongs.
* Hoarding 'LIMITED' request items (i.e. keeping them out of normal
circulation, or misusing them) is abuse of request.

Failure to heed these warnings is grounds for outcast from the Light.


I will be needing to make it easy to return a requested item (e.g. heron's go back to warders, so warders need to be reachable). I'll be moving things as they come to my attention.

It doesnt matter to return the item if they already have a copy. More updates for request gear soon.
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Jamus



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject:

If you have an ok set of eq, and you don't really need the items, you can't request it? What is need?

Also, why would you want to even return an item? Why not just sacrifice it?
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Vhrael
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject:

Jamus wrote:
If you have an ok set of eq, and you don't really need the items, you can't request it? What is need?

"In need" can simply mean "it's better than what you've got, but you need it to do a better job for the Light" or something along those lines. NOT "in need" means you either a) have the item already, or b) can't use it (ethos restriction, racial vulns, etc.).
Jamus wrote:
Also, why would you want to even return an item? Why not just sacrifice it?

Maybe they were thinking if they returned 2, then they could request it and someone else could request it afterward... don't know where that one came from, actually.
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject:

Because Jamus, if you sac the item, its out of circulation, and someone needs to come along and repop the mob (or reboot the mud) to get it back into circulation. Lightwalkers cannot repop mobs, they'll take damnation and definite outcast if caught doing it for OOC reason. Thats why you see things like a Knight staying inactive after he's dead, to log in at reboots to re-gear and shit like that. Return the item and you save other Lightwalkers a lot of misery.
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:26 am    Post subject:

Updated-

Altered duration on request. It now depends on the difference in levels between you and the object youre taking. If you are requesting the highest level possible object you can for your level (e.g. Liberty items at level 50), this would take the full request time, whereas if you grabbed something thats way below you in levels, you might get away with up to half the duration. This is so that you dont get to sit on your ass for a year just to get holy avenger or some crap like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject:

So....holy avenger can be requested from a neutral mob now, cool! Wink
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject:

Uh no, because I made a fair number of mobs neutral - like Diana - because of removal of good align Justices.
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Ceridwel
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject:

I've just discovered how to Request items and am wondering what the rank requirements are? For example what's the first rank I need to be from which I can request an item from a mob? Mob minus 10? Mob minus 8? Or is it based on the level of the item, not the mob carrying it?
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Erlwith



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject:

As posted on this string already requests are based on item level, and the request time varies based on your level vs the item level.
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Ceridwel
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject:

Erlwith wrote:
As posted on this string already requests are based on item level, and the request time varies based on your level vs the item level.



What I'm looking for is an understanding of my rank vs the item's level. E.g. at what rank can I successfully request an item that is marked level 30, or 40, or X. X-10?
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject:

You should do your own investigations.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject:

I agree
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