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Devin_Smoth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject:

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the keepers will have powers, and wont have to worry about the idle purge at the end of every month, which makes them great for uncaballed semi-actives, that still want to fight pk. It also is an advantage over just being uncaballed.


Except that people are going to target you primarily because you have a cute [KEEPER] in front of your name... which would be a disadvantage... since you're more of a target for being ganged more often.
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Mahkan



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject:

"Any reason Keepers aren't on motd if they're open?"

"basically they are going to sac rares and go after hoarders

and ppl who want rares will band against them"

if i read the whole thing about the motd correctly, keepers are tagless and only other keepers know who the keepers are. But perhaps I read it wrong...
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Louis



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject:

that's not possible, because they will have to defend their cabal
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MrCarb



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject:

I think when Mahkan likened keepers to assasins he meant that they too will forgoe conventional cabal warfare (targeting a cabal item in groups) for more individual combat (which has a character rather than an enitre cabal as its target).
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject:

I dunno what you guys are talking about. Haha. Defending a cabal is too hard? Lets look at that then. I'm willing to discuss and re-evaluate everything and do whatever it takes to balance that out properly and fairly. What's reasonable for me may not be reasonable for you. But you can't just have powers for free. Don't bother to even respond if that's your goal. You won't get that. Going independent needs to be a viable option. Also: don't make the general stuff all cabals adhere by into a "Keeper" issue because its not.
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Devin_Smoth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject:

So will Keepers be tagged or not?
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject:

Nobody has earned it yet.
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Vhrael
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject:

Devin_Smoth wrote:
So will Keepers be tagged or not?

Dav, I think they're asking whether it's going to be:

[ Hum ] [KEEPER] Bob the Builder

- or just -

[ Hum ] Bob the Builder

Whether they'll have a viewable cabal tag by everyone on the "who list" or if they're only going to be known by each other - that's the question.
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Devin_Smoth



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject:

Actually, that was what I was asking, yep!!

And are applications open now ?
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Vanisse
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject:

you can apply.

that dancing cat thing makes me twitch. Confused
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Rezakhan



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject:

People may target you more b/c you have that cute 'Keeper' tag in front of your name, but keep in mind that one of the main reasons people attack others is to gain EQ. What's the point in attacking someone (and making a permanent enemy) who is going to give you mithril and a hell blade? I would think the incentive would be for people to avoid trying to fight with Keepers, since they have nothing really to gain and everything to lose.
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Erlwith



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject:

out of curiosity what would one do to "earn" it. especially a neutral
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Louis



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject:

i disagree. if you read dav's mention of the 'keeper of artifacts' that has to do with reloading rares, i think you'll rethink that statement
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject:

Erlwith wrote:
out of curiosity what would one do to "earn" it. especially a neutral


One of those things is just what you do about "waiting". I'm serious. If a character has under 20 hours played on any of the cabal applicants I look at, I stop inspecting. Waiting is a good way to weed out the "flash in the pan" rage-deleting applicant (Groq take note), the "lol i flag everyone!! lol" rapidly bored Justice apps, the whiny guys you'll eventually regret having inducted, the OOC guys, the ninja (he "vanishes") etc. I always wait to see how people turn out. That's one thing I've learnt from many experience around cabals in good times and bad. Waiting never puts off anyone worth their salt.
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Erlwith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject:

Fair
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Devin_Smoth



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject:

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that dancing cat thing makes me twitch. Confused


You know you like it!!!

*laughs* At the rate I'm going , it's going to take me 20 hours to rank to 25... there is NO one on to rank with, I swear.

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People may target you more b/c you have that cute 'Keeper' tag in front of your name,


Does this mean they are tagged then?

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but keep in mind that one of the main reasons people attack others is to gain EQ. What's the point in attacking someone (and making a permanent enemy) who is going to give you mithril and a hell blade?


Just to make sure they don't get jumped themselves? That's usually why I attack someone. Wink
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Erlwith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject:

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but keep in mind that one of the main reasons people attack others is to gain EQ.


Tell that to non-stat armored herald, or the noble with plain restrung items or the knight in guild issue or the naked <insert class here>
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_Clifton_
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject:

You gank people for eq, you attack people to kill them
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_Clifton_
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject:

So.. has anyone been named first keeper yet?
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Mandor



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject:

well their cabal grounds seem to be one east of the center of timaran then north.
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