[LEGION] an occultist: 'Marest has entered the Lacramose Temple.'
[LEGION] A Shadowdemon Guardian: 'Alert! Marest has intruded upon our cabal!' A Shadowdemon Guardian yells 'You don't belong here, Marest!'
659/99% 88% 92% $15660 . no opponent active city city east Larken Road *-*-* | This seems to be the more residential area of the city. | | However, it seems very quiet and deserted. Domestic pets * | run freely about causing much noise and commotion. Fruit | | vendors line either side of the street trying to make a +-+-@-+ | sale. | | * | | | ---------+
[Exits: north east west] A darkhaven Outlaw stalks the area, looking for fun. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in. An undead slave walks in. A flesh golem walks in. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper lumbers in. A stone golem walks in. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in.
659/99% 88% 92% $15660 . no opponent active city city north Entrance of a Lacramose Temple *-*-* | The eerie wail of a lost spirit fills the air as the musty | | | atmosphere causes you to cough violently. The red drapery *-*-* | is covered with a very thick layer of grey dust. The feeling | | in the air is meditative and quiet, almost sad at what @ | this temple is all about - even if people aren't entirely | | sure why. A silver moon is drawn in the background of the +-+-+-+ | wall encased in a gold and ivory casing. Spears are thrown | | in between the curves of the moon. The symbol means nothing * | to you. ---------+
[Exits: north south] A black robed figure stands mystically before you. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in. A stone golem walks in. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper lumbers in. A flesh golem walks in. An undead slave walks in. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in.
659/99% 88% 92% $15660 . no opponent active inside inside north A Lacramose Temple *-*-+ | The eerie wail of a lost spirit fills the air as the musty | | atmosphere causes you to cough violently. The red drapery *-*-* | is covered with a very thick layer of grey dust. The feeling | | | in the air is meditative and quiet, almost sad at what *-@-* | this temple is all about - even if people aren't entirely | | sure why. A silver moon is drawn in the background of * | the wall encased in a gold and ivory casing. Spears and | | thrown in between the curves of the moon. The symbol means +-+-+-+ | nothing to you. ---------+
[Exits: east south west] A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in. An undead slave walks in. A flesh golem walks in. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper lumbers in. A stone golem walks in. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in.
659/99% 88% 91% $15660 . no opponent active inside inside c rend marest north They aren't here.
659/99% 88% 91% $15660 . no opponent active inside inside Marest walks in.
659/99% 88% 91% $15660 . no opponent active inside inside Marest walks south.
***EDIT*** chased around Darkhaven a bit
Bay Side Road + F| This road extends north and south. It is cluttered with | || litter which blown around in the string winds of the +-+-+| nearby sea. Merchants walk about in their wagons full | | of fish and shellfish. The air is thick of that salty @ o| smell of sea food. | || * S + +| | | | || +-+-+-+-+| ---------+
[Exits: north south] (White Aura) Marest the Holy Knight, General of Valour is here. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in. A stone golem walks in. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper lumbers in. A flesh golem walks in. An undead slave walks in. A zombie of a giant thief guardian lumbers in. You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Marest!' Marest's thrust DISMEMBERS you! Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! [** ] You parry Marest's thrust. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A flesh golem's slash wounds Marest. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. Your slash decimates Marest! Marest braces against his armor to perform a two-handed set parry. [* ] Marest parries your slash. Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
555/83% 90% 95% $15660 ! shaft aggressive city city south No way! You are still fighting! Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
555/83% 90% 95% $15660 ! shaft aggressive city city c rend marest Your rend life MUTILATES Marest! Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
551/83% 88% 95% $15660 ! shaft aggressive city city [***] You parry Marest's thrust. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite injures Marest. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has quite a few wounds.
551/83% 88% 95% $15660 ! shaft aggressive city city c rend marest Your rend life MUTILATES Marest! Marest has quite a few wounds.
544/82% 87% 95% $15660 ! shaft aggressive city city Marest's thrust DISMEMBERS you! A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power decimates Marest! A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power misses Marest. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite misses Marest. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
490/73% 87% 95% $15660 ! shaft aggressive city city disp
Marest has fled! Marest walks south.
490/73% 87% 95% $15660 . no opponent aggressive city city Cast the dispel magic spell on whom?
***EDIT*** more chasing and healing
663/100% 94% 97% $15794 . no opponent evasive city city c rend marest
Marest walks in.
663/100% 94% 97% $15794 . no opponent evasive city city south Marest yells 'Die! Darzavius, you sorcerous dog!' Your rend life MUTILATES Marest! Marest has a few scratches.
660/99% 93% 97% $15794 ! shaft aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest walks south.
660/99% 93% 97% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest walks in.
660/99% 93% 97% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest
You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Marest!' Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! Marest's thrust misses you. Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! [** ] You parry Marest's thrust. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce misses Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power injures Marest. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite misses Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite injures Marest. [** ] Marest parries your slash. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
562/84% 93% 97% $15794 ! shaft aggressive city city No way! You are still fighting! Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
562/84% 93% 97% $15794 ! shaft aggressive city city Your rend life DISEMBOWELS Marest! Marest has quite a few wounds.
556/83% 91% 97% $15794 ! shaft aggressive city city Marest's thrust DISMEMBERS you! Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. An undead slave's punch hits Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite injures Marest. Your slash decimates Marest! Your slash decimates Marest! Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
443/66% 91% 97% $15794 ! shaft aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest walks north.
443/66% 91% 97% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest walks in.
443/66% 91% 97% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest
Marest walks south.
443/66% 91% 97% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city They aren't here.
455/68% 90% 96% $15794 . no opponent aggressive inside inside c rend marest Marest yells 'Die! Darzavius, you sorcerous dog!' Your rend life DISEMBOWELS Marest! Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
452/68% 89% 96% $15794 ! shaft aggressive inside inside [* ] You parry Marest's thrust. Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite misses Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. [** ] Marest parries your slash. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest looks pretty hurt.
408/61% 89% 96% $15794 ! shaft aggressive inside inside c rend marest
Marest has fled! Marest walks south.
408/61% 89% 96% $15794 . no opponent aggressive inside inside
***EDIT*** move and resummon
408/61% 86% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest arrives suddenly.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest gets a seashell ring from a heavy backpack.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest
Marest walks south.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city They aren't here.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest They aren't here.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest c rend marest They aren't here.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest They aren't here. Marest walks in.
408/61% 83% 93% $15794 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest c rend marest c rend marest Marest yells 'Die! Darzavius, you sorcerous dog!' Your rend life DISEMBOWELS Marest! Marest looks pretty hurt.
409/61% 84% 100% $15794 ! shaft aggressive city city Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! Marest's thrust DISEMBOWELS you! A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite injures Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. An undead slave's punch hits Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest is DEAD!! A reaper's scythe grows more deadly with its harvest. A reaper's scythe grows more deadly with its harvest. You hear Marest's death cry.
***EDIT*** full loot and heal up
[LEGION] an occultist: 'Marest has entered the Lacramose Temple.'
Marest tells you 'It is good that you know fear of the light.'
You tell Marest 'Ha.'
Marest tells you 'Forgive me, I only assume you know fear, since you decided that leaving me with nothing was your best course of action.'
You tell Marest 'I knew you would attempt again and again, I was saving you from yourself.'
Marest tells you 'Oh no. I will come again. I am bathed in the light, Darzavius. Whether in nothing, or everything, I will not stop.'
673/100% 67% 99% $30671 . no opponent calm city city c loc lion-crested A lion-crested bracer is carried by Marest A lion-crested girdle is carried by Marest A lion-crested shield is carried by Marest A lion-crested broadsword is carried by Marest A lion-crested surcoat is carried by Marest A pair of lion-crested boots is carried by Marest A pair of lion-crested greaves is carried by Marest A pair of lion-crested gauntlets is carried by Marest A pair of lion-crested vambraces is carried by Marest A lion-crested breastplate is carried by Marest A lion-crested bracer is carried by Marest A lion-crested helm is carried by Marest A lion-crested amulet is carried by Marest A lion-crested amulet is carried by Marest A lion-crested ring is carried by Marest A lion-crested ring is carried by Marest A lion-crested banner is carried by Marest A lion-crested banner is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested ring is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested amulet is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested helm is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested breastplate is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A pair of lion-crested vambraces is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A pair of lion-crested gauntlets is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A pair of lion-crested greaves is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A pair of lion-crested boots is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested shield is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested girdle is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested surcoat is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested bracer is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested broadsword is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested polehammer is carried by Lathognis the outfitter A lion-crested spiked flail is carried by Lathognis the outfitter
Marest walks in.
673/100% 69% 98% $30671 . no opponent calm city city c rend marest Marest yells 'Die! Darzavius, you sorcerous dog!' You fade into existence. Your rend life MUTILATES Marest! Marest has a few scratches.
666/98% 67% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash mauls you. Marest's slash mauls you. A zombie of a giant thief guardian fades into existence. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A stone golem fades into existence. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper fades into existence. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A flesh golem fades into existence. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. An undead slave fades into existence. A zombie of a giant thief guardian fades into existence. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. [* ] Marest parries your slash. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
621/92% 67% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest walks north.
621/92% 67% 98% $30671 . no opponent aggressive city city c rend marest north c rend marest
Marest walks in.
621/92% 67% 98% $30671 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest yells 'Die! Darzavius, you sorcerous dog!' Your rend life MUTILATES Marest! Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
618/91% 66% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash decimates you! Marest's slash decimates you! Marest's slash mauls you. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power decimates Marest! A flesh golem's slash hits Marest. A flesh golem's slash hits Marest. An undead slave's punch hits Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. [** ] Marest blocks your attack with his shield. Marest has quite a few wounds.
545/80% 66% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest walks north.
545/80% 66% 98% $30671 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest walks in.
545/80% 66% 98% $30671 . no opponent aggressive city city You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Marest!' Marest's slash decimates you! Marest's slash decimates you! Marest's slash decimates you! Marest has quite a few wounds.
468/69% 66% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city No way! You are still fighting! Marest's slash decimates you! A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A flesh golem's slash misses Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
441/65% 66% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Your rend life MUTILATES Marest! Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
436/64% 64% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest walks north.
436/64% 64% 98% $30671 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest walks in.
436/64% 64% 98% $30671 . no opponent aggressive city city You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Marest!' Marest's slash mauls you. Marest's slash mauls you. [* ] You parry Marest's slash. Marest's slash mauls you. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite decimates Marest! A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. [** ] Marest blocks your attack with his shield. Marest looks pretty hurt.
365/54% 64% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city disp You failed. Marest looks pretty hurt.
365/54% 63% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash mauls you. Marest's slash mauls you. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power decimates Marest! A flesh golem's slash hits Marest. An undead slave's punch hits Marest. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest is in awful condition.
320/47% 63% 98% $30671 * blade aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest limps south.
***EDIT*** healed myself up a bit
668/99% 42% 97% $31068 . no opponent evasive city city south where pk
Marest walks in.
668/99% 42% 97% $31068 . no opponent evasive city city You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Marest!' [** ] You parry Marest's slash. Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
668/99% 42% 97% $31068 * blade evasive city city No way! You are still fighting! Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
668/99% 42% 97% $31068 * blade evasive city city Players near you: <PK> Darzavius Outside the Gates <PK> Marest Outside the Gates Marest has some small wounds and bruises.
668/99% 42% 97% $31068 * blade evasive city city Marest's slash mauls you. [* ] You parry Marest's slash. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has quite a few wounds.
647/96% 42% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city o all wa Ok. Marest has quite a few wounds.
647/96% 42% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest rolls his eyes, disgusted. Marest has quite a few wounds.
647/96% 42% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city c rend marest Your rend life DISEMBOWELS Marest! Marest has quite a few wounds.
646/95% 42% 100% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash mauls you. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A stone golem's pierce mauls Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power wounds Marest. A zombie of a tired old innkeeper's divine power mauls Marest. A flesh golem's slash injures Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite wounds Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. A zombie of a giant thief guardian's bite mauls Marest. [** ] Marest blocks your attack with his shield. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
622/92% 42% 100% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest has fled! Marest walks north.
***EDIT*** chased into Darkhaven
Marest has summoned you! Dravanoth Way +| This street was created of the finest brick. Very regal || looking compared to that of the other streets. Some * + +| sort of public hall lies to the near west and to the | | || distant east you see a plain looking fountain. The buildings +-+-@-+-+| here are tall and narrow. Citizens look out from their | | || homes through the window - they look very scared. Despite S +-* +| the regal outlook of things here, poverty is distinctly | || present. +-* +| ---------+
[Exits: north east west] (White Aura) Marest the Holy Knight, General of Valour is here. A darkhaven Outlaw stalks the area, looking for fun. A sneaky thief is here, stealing your gold purse. A female prostitute gives you a lusty look.
630/93% 40% 91% $31068 . no opponent aggressive city city where zombie a zombie of a giant thief guardian Misty Lane
630/93% 40% 91% $31068 . no opponent aggressive city city Marest narrows his eyes. You yell 'Help! Marest is attacking me with heavenly wrath!' Marest's heavenly wrath DISEMBOWELS you! Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
585/86% 40% 89% $31068 * blade aggressive city city north No way! You are still fighting! Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
585/86% 40% 89% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash decimates you! [* ] Marest blocks your attack with his shield. Your slash mauls Marest. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
559/83% 40% 89% $31068 * blade aggressive city city disp Marest no longer looks so wild. Ok. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
559/83% 39% 89% $31068 * blade aggressive city city c rend mar
Marest narrows his eyes. Marest's heavenly wrath DISEMBOWELS you! You feel unclean. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
516/76% 41% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash wounds you. [** ] Marest parries your slash. [* ] Marest parries your slash. Marest has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
496/73% 41% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city You refract your spell, leaving residual energy hanging in the air. Your rend life DISEMBOWELS Marest! Marest looks pretty hurt.
489/72% 40% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city c rend mar
Marest's slash wounds you. [* ] You parry Marest's slash. Your slash devastates Marest! [** ] Marest blocks your attack with his shield. Marest looks pretty hurt.
470/69% 40% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Your rend life DISMEMBERS Marest! Marest looks pretty hurt.
464/68% 38% 97% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest narrows his eyes. Marest's heavenly wrath MUTILATES you! Marest looks pretty hurt.
424/63% 38% 96% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash mauls you. Marest's slash wounds you. Your slash devastates Marest! Marest looks pretty hurt.
384/57% 38% 96% $31068 * blade aggressive city city c rend mar Your rend life DISMEMBERS Marest! Marest is in awful condition.
380/56% 37% 96% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash mauls you. [** ] You parry Marest's slash. [** ] Marest blocks your attack with his shield. Marest is in awful condition.
358/53% 37% 96% $31068 * blade aggressive city city c rend mar
Marest narrows his eyes. Marest's heavenly wrath DISEMBOWELS you! Marest is in awful condition.
313/46% 37% 94% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Your rend life DISEMBOWELS Marest! Marest is in awful condition.
306/45% 35% 94% $31068 * blade aggressive city city Marest's slash mauls you. Your slash devastates Marest! Your slash devastates Marest! Marest is DEAD!! A reaper's scythe grows more deadly with its harvest. A reaper's scythe grows more deadly with its harvest. Marest's leg is dismembered from his dead body.
Damn you, Lathognis the outfitter! But then you did stop, Marest...at least for the time being.
how are necros not considered horribly unbalanced? where is the skill in camping the thief guardian? this kill is without even using sleep/blind, etc. etc. it looks like he could have even won without the rend life spam.
There are a lot of failed zombie raises and mobdeathing along the way, it isn't easy at all. Its been my experience that players rarely have the desire to even play necromancers. My theory is its because nobody wants to prep a necro fully, and THAT is because its very time-consuming and at the end of the day you're going to try compete with people who will simply quit out to avoid it.
Curisq, your remarks are offensive to my kind. Try being a necromancer if it is so unbalanced, and you don't need skill to do it. When you are at more than 15 deaths trying to raise an army....before you are even ranked 50...your tune might change.
this is the top level of play you expect from a necro at 50? an hour or so camping thief guardian and rend life spam? I'm sure you are skilled dar but this log speaks volumes. and i've duo/solo'd a majority of the big bosses in this game and died to them too and i don't attribute that to skill.
if the log itself doesn't highlight an obvious problem the brains over brawn thing is dead in the water - though darz, I would not expect you to agree necros are op.
He would've won the fight without the zombies if you bother to look at the numbers carefully. Marest is doing something stupid. I saw eight things Marest could've done differently
i guesssss but its not like a shaman or illusionist raping someone because they didn't wear saves, this is just raw damage output for no good reason. they don't seem to need it, they have a bunch of spells to bully you with which they don't really need to use most of the time anyway. uvet might even forget to blind you after she puts you to sleep, it is an embarrassment of riches. it isn't like red alert code red or anything but these are just my opinions.
I didn't realize Marest was a paladin though, wonder why he got stomped. Wasn't doing anywhere near enough damage, it looks like. Should have been flee/murdering with a big damage polearm and a buckler, probably should have been summoning zombies away. Hybrids should not be hung up on winning weapon matchups and getting advantages unless they are fighting a warrior class or a thief/ninja.
The thing with necro is they have one spell type. You defend against mal and you're set. At least with a shaman or illu they have some aff and mental tools at their disposal.
Illu damage is a lot scarier than necro damage on account of the fact that dupes are not weakened. The price the necro pays is that prep time and weaker charmies. Seriously dude, if you think necros are op roll one up and stomp with it. Bet you would have a worse record than you'd think.
A rend whore necro is not op. A 1k hp necro with 600 ac now that's a different story. If you are a class that has summon, summon a necro away from his army. Sure, you'll get into a classic illu/thief game of run away and reset. But he (or she) who has more patience will prevail. As a slight variant you could summon the creatures away from the necro and make him hunt for them.
Also, why is marest parrying so poorly? Try using a mace either two handed or with a shield to max those defenses. I can't remember if pallys get staffs or not but those would work too.
Rend whore necros are vulnerable to a damstacked wrecking ball. Darz has what, 725 max hp with this set? The right combo of flee murder could stomp his face into the ground.
+1 Ergo "if you think necros are op roll one up and stomp with it" I have played muds where there are op classes, everyone plays the same OP class. According to the players list, there are only 7 necros on AR at lvl 50. Two of which I have never seen, and I am about A LOT.
I always stomped the shit out of Darzavius, with Euriah and the centurions polearm. I never really had a problem with any necro... Ravinah included. When you use errantry, you get frenzied...when frenzied, you have worse parry I believe. Use errantry for the practically never-ending moves...but wait for frenzy to fall before starting the fight with a necro that has stout zombies.. That will also use up some of the time for the frenzy on the necros pets too. Thats what I would do sometimes... that way there is no defense loss... Maximize divine sacrifice instead for the additional damage.
Marest, slow down with the wraths. If you're going to use them, use at the beginning of battle...not when you are low on health. That 1.5 round lag will get you killed again and again using it at low hp against a necro.
Flee earlier in battle, after the first couple rounds, run a bit and cure a couple times, run a bit, and cure a couple times... but keep the necro somewhat close to you. By fleeing earlier in battle like that, the necro is less likely to stop and vamp touch everything, and more likely to chase you instead... meaning you are curing a bit and he is not.
Summoning him more often works too, just be careful not to kill your mana. But be smart with the summons..trying to utilize certain areas where your summon can be more advantageous for catching a murder after the summon, or him bumping into walls trying to run away...nearby no exit rooms...behind closed doors like in ofcol...there's always that chance you will catch him without pass door up and get a good beating on him.
And do not forget about shield slam. I killed several opponents with that skill.. including mages not worried about pallys lagging them.. then paying the price.
That's just a few things that came to mind that I would use on Euriah... I was 13wins/2Loss against necros.. so all those pointers worked really well for me.
Balan never had any trouble at all with Darz. I have seen Healers stomp a mudhole in necromancers. it just depends on the playstyle and the patience. Marest did not take advantage of his heals at all.
Most of the thoughts on here are from when Ravinah and Darzavius were the two necromancers with the most play time. For Balan and Euriah, and even Tuston, that meant light based weapons that no longer exist. Taking nothing away from Balan and Euriah, as they were both awesome killers, it was still a factor.
Also, I'd like to add that the no exit rooms idea is one I'd be cautious with. I recall a certain argument about one in the Ford on Tuston, having to do with rp and knights honor.
first of all, a lot of replies lol. second im not saying one person is good/bad with a necro therefor he/she is overpowered. I'm saying, look at the skillset compared to the other classes in the games and really consider the pros and cons of a basic skill set (warriors have the best defenses with great offense, and obviously no spells or healing other than berserk to make up for it, shamans are the opposite). then look at necros, who have potentially twice the damage of warriors or more, life drain spells and scrolls/wands, the ability to sleep you which is a game changer easily vs any class, and a low cost summon. their mals are just icing on the cake. idk seems really obvious to me.
their only real drawbacks are a)things outside of combat i.e. ranking, gathering zombies and b) low defenses - which can be offset with heals and insane damage.
Because of that one spell you have to overload on your mal saves. Especially a competent necro is going to have some mal break equipment. If they hit sleep, it's 8/10 times a guaranteed killed. Yea you might get lucky with a gyvel then a teleport, but that's all you got. Even if you can see, you get two rounded by the zombies.
Because of that spell, you equipment is very shitty, as your AC and hit/dam is probably crap. Back in the day you can counter with hunger/thirst or poison but that was taken out with a cooldown on sleep, but that doesn't make it any less scary.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . There are a lot of failed zombie raises and mobdeathing along the way, it isn't easy at all. Its been my experience that players rarely have the desire to even play necromancers. My theory is its because nobody wants to prep a necro fully, and THAT is because its very time-consuming and at the end of the day you're going to try compete with people who will simply quit out to avoid it.
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if the log itself doesn't highlight an obvious problem the brains over brawn thing is dead in the water - though darz, I would not expect you to agree necros are op.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . He would've won the fight without the zombies if you bother to look at the numbers carefully. Marest is doing something stupid. I saw eight things Marest could've done differently Pardalote 0 , 0 , 0 . thing 1 would be not fighting a fully armed necromancer as a thief in direct frontal combat curisq 0 , 0 , 0 . i guesssss but its not like a shaman or illusionist raping someone because they didn't wear saves, this is just raw damage output for no good reason. they don't seem to need it, they have a bunch of spells to bully you with which they don't really need to use most of the time anyway. uvet might even forget to blind you after she puts you to sleep, it is an embarrassment of riches. it isn't like red alert code red or anything but these are just my opinions. Pardalote 0 , 0 , 0 . uh, no, it is exactly like that Pardalote 0 , 0 , 0 . I didn't realize Marest was a paladin though, wonder why he got stomped. Wasn't doing anywhere near enough damage, it looks like. Should have been flee/murdering with a big damage polearm and a buckler, probably should have been summoning zombies away. Hybrids should not be hung up on winning weapon matchups and getting advantages unless they are fighting a warrior class or a thief/ninja. Ergorion 
0 , 0 , 0 . The thing with necro is they have one spell type. You defend against mal and you're set. At least with a shaman or illu they have some aff and mental tools at their disposal.
[reply to curisq]Illu damage is a lot scarier than necro damage on account of the fact that dupes are not weakened. The price the necro pays is that prep time and weaker charmies. Seriously dude, if you think necros are op roll one up and stomp with it. Bet you would have a worse record than you'd think.
Also, why is marest parrying so poorly? Try using a mace either two handed or with a shield to max those defenses. I can't remember if pallys get staffs or not but those would work too.
Rend whore necros are vulnerable to a damstacked wrecking ball. Darz has what, 725 max hp with this set? The right combo of flee murder could stomp his face into the ground.
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0 , 0 , 0 . +1 Ergo "if you think necros are op roll one up and stomp with it" I have played muds where there are op classes, everyone plays the same OP class. According to the players list, there are only 7 necros on AR at lvl 50. Two of which I have never seen, and I am about A LOT.
[reply to Ergorion]Marest, slow down with the wraths. If you're going to use them, use at the beginning of battle...not when you are low on health. That 1.5 round lag will get you killed again and again using it at low hp against a necro.
Flee earlier in battle, after the first couple rounds, run a bit and cure a couple times, run a bit, and cure a couple times... but keep the necro somewhat close to you. By fleeing earlier in battle like that, the necro is less likely to stop and vamp touch everything, and more likely to chase you instead... meaning you are curing a bit and he is not.
Summoning him more often works too, just be careful not to kill your mana. But be smart with the summons..trying to utilize certain areas where your summon can be more advantageous for catching a murder after the summon, or him bumping into walls trying to run away...nearby no exit rooms...behind closed doors like in ofcol...there's always that chance you will catch him without pass door up and get a good beating on him.
And do not forget about shield slam. I killed several opponents with that skill.. including mages not worried about pallys lagging them.. then paying the price.
That's just a few things that came to mind that I would use on Euriah... I was 13wins/2Loss against necros.. so all those pointers worked really well for me.
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Also, I'd like to add that the no exit rooms idea is one I'd be cautious with. I recall a certain argument about one in the Ford on Tuston, having to do with rp and knights honor.
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their only real drawbacks are a)things outside of combat i.e. ranking, gathering zombies and b) low defenses - which can be offset with heals and insane damage.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . Rock is overpowered, but Paper is perfect. Kornhole 
0 , 0 , 0 . OMFG dav, I nearly shit myself and passed out laughing so hard. That is some zen wisdom right there. Nycticora 
0 , 0 , 0 . hahaha
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Because of that one spell you have to overload on your mal saves. Especially a competent necro is going to have some mal break equipment. If they hit sleep, it's 8/10 times a guaranteed killed. Yea you might get lucky with a gyvel then a teleport, but that's all you got. Even if you can see, you get two rounded by the zombies.
Because of that spell, you equipment is very shitty, as your AC and hit/dam is probably crap. Back in the day you can counter with hunger/thirst or poison but that was taken out with a cooldown on sleep, but that doesn't make it any less scary.
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