Long before the time of Morin Duergars greed ran thick as blood. They
mined deeper than any being should have, taken more than any being dared.
Vicohn was the worst of all Duergars. He would panhandle a five gold out
of a beggar. To get a gold from this Duergar would be an act of the Gods
themselves. Having all the riches in the world did not satisfy Vicohn,
well one day he stumbled upon a deity of the strongest power. Knowing this
all powerful being could make him rich he thought up a trickery to snare
the God. This foolish Duergar thinking he could out smart such a being
fell right into his hand. Given the choice of all the riches he could ever
want or a life of servitude the Duergar of course wanted the riches. He
was then cursed by the deity who transported him to his golden chambers,
proceeded to turn him to stone. The Duergar spent five hundred years a
statue frozen in stone until he was granted his freedom but cursed forever
to be a solid rock.
Description:
A figure cloaked in shadows is barely noticeable here. A set of dead pan
eyes observe every minute detail around him with the unwavering focus. A
wickedly crooked nose sits above a set of wide set lips on an otherwise
ordinary face. Hair the color of a moonless night hangs loosely about his
shoulders, framing his narrow face. A pair of dark dirty stubby arms hang
motionless at his side. He is short and his figure is lean and hard,
weather worn over the years. His eyes catch yours for but a moment, and
then he is gone.
I don't think some immortals take this game as seriously as it should.
I made this character because I wanted to one prac a character with high con and high enough wis int to get 3 prac and duergar was the right choice. A thief with almost 1k hp would be amazing right!! I ended up with 951 I could have had 971 with the two trains I had left over.
Now early on I asked Conundo hey can thieves get into warlords he said he wasn't sure. He then gives me tasks and im thinking ok cool looks like I can get in. Master everything except pry and steal for whatever reason backstab stayed at 99% and sidestep was like 95% everything else was mastered a lot easier than you think. Even second and third attack I mastered from 41%.
Now I get inducted a day later Lorne uninducts me no note, not in person nothing, just shits on my character. Says I must prove myself I fight duels with no sanc, win some lose some, kill the "baddest" pker Khiotha relatively easily then I just get tired of waiting. I die a few times to mobs in winter because of no sanc.
Just sick of it. Take this shit seriously and treat players like they are worth something not just a shit stain on your boot. If you didn't want me in Warlords just say so, not have me holding my dick in my hand for over a week playing at least 2 hours a day.
I wrote 3 notes, prayed a few times asking for an update or decision no response. Since I got no response I failed my black jack on Khiotha and suicded, that function is nuts btw.
"Warriors, berserkers, rangers and monks are the only accepted guilds. Other classes may be considered in EXTREME circumstances. Apply at your own risk."
You applied at your own Risk. Also, you refer to having to wait for "over a week" as some ungodly unfair amount of time. You need to reset you expectations around that. A week is not a long time.
I'm like 90% sure that quote from help warlord was added AFTER the Vicohn uninduction.
Also it is probably the absolute biggest handicap in the whole game to have nomagic and not be a warlord. No sanctuary is pretty much the be all end all of everything in this game. That was my fear with applying to Warlord. Because I didn't do it the "normal" way either. But I was much luckier and the inducted me way faster than I was expecting.
Now I don't know or necessarily even have an opinion on who is "right" in all of this. Just pointing out my observations and admitting that I definitely felt bad for Vicohn. Shitty situation.
Ozaru
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Yeah the help file was very general before the change you basically didn't have to use magic. I was inducted at lvl 25 and ranked to about 42 i think before I was uninducted. Which was about 2 or 3 weeks ago. When I mentioned the waiting time of over a week. that was probably 2 weeks after this entire ordeal started. All I wanted was resolution to move and i got tired of my character being held hostage.
What I find ultimately disgusting about the immortal involvement here is Lorne said I am a veteran player and I should have spoke to him personally before attempting something like this. So obviously his decision on whether or not he would even care to get back to me is now based on my character history. I honestly did not care whether I got in or not, what was complete bullshit is playing everyday and not getting any resolution to a simple problem.
Nycticora
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you don't have the right to get into any cabal
Ozaru
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That is probably the most intelligent thing you have ever said
Nycticora
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why do you feel like you have the right to get into any cabal you decide to try for? Your character was only around for 23 days.
Ozaru
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I never expected to get into Warlords, and I stated that numerous times. What I expected is a timely decision. How long do I need to wait to hear a no so I could move on with my character?
Davirus sent a note 2 weeks ago about investigating what happened with my uninduction I never got a response from Lorne, I waited a week, sent him a note personally for an update. Waited a week while playing everyday and never received a response. I would have been happy to have been uncaballed, I just wanted an answer.
I have a limited window when I can play I don't expect immortals to be always around which is why I sent a note. I would imagine people would be considerate of everyones time and not just waste it. Clearly Lorne didn't give a shit to even craft a response over a 2 week period.
Nycticora
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ok so the sequence of events here was: 1. you ranked up in a week 2. you got inducted by a level 4 warlord with no real drama despite being a thief 3. the cabal imm doesn't like a thief being fasttracked or something and removes you 4. you can't use sanc or stance anymore so you freak out
was there any point during this sequence of events where you could have made a decision before the immortal had control of this situation?
Ozaru
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If I wanted to freak out in a rp mud it would be when an immortal uninducted me from a cabal without a reason, without a face to face without a note, I just wake up boom I am no longer a warlord. No immortal is answering my question as to why it took over 2 weeks to get a response. How long would anyone be expected to wait for any type of role play because that would be an awesome opportunity instead of just silence. That same immortal didn't have a problem with a warlord using magic to get to level 50 every step of the way but yeah that guy is new and I am not. So no favoritism at all.
Nycticora
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you chose to apply to Warlord and it meant your death. It was a good death, own it. You chose a path that required the utmost conviction halfheartedly and it ended predictably. "I never expected to get into Warlords" -> gravestone, every time.
i thought you should good perseverance, i had hoped to see you pull it off. honestly though, whats a week, 2? this character has 73 hours. if you had 200, i would probably feel differently. i dont think you waited long enough, excellent rp was your out in this, and you didnt give enough time to show that.
Invest 100 more hours in something without detect invis without gyvel without purpled come on bro be real. And that is what 2 hours everyday for 50 days without much activity going on no thanks. Again not bitching about being a warlord just reject me and not waste my time don’t dangle something when you know you won’t give it
As an Immortal (and person of this community) our responsibility is to model the way for how players should behave and set an example.
This situation seems crappy based on what I’ve read. If you are going to set a rule and say that a certain class can’t join a cabal, then don’t punish someone who has already met requirements and been inducted by a senior member (who should be punished harder than the applicant for not seeking counsel on an outlier applicant), just close the gate for future applicants. Or if you do - that’s fine, things change, just communicate to them that this was a mistake and give some closure. It’s super easy to give 5 minutes to a note to explain and then let the player decide what they are going to do with that information.
Nyc - I appreciate all you do for this game, but your lack of empathy is a bit repulsive and pushes away loyal players, Just pump the brakes bro, please, for the sake of the game.
Ozaru
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Thank you, that means a lot.
Nycticora
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Maybe I'm empathizing with the immortal who has the right to run his cabal any way he sees fit? Your claim of a lack of empathy is probably projection if you can't see the issue from all sides. But I wouldn't expect an imm who hasn't logged in since february 25 to know anything about how to run a cabal so you're forgiven
Lorne
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You were inducted a couple of days after you sent your application by Conundo. I don't know what he said to you, but I didn't even read your application before you were inducted without notice.
I transferred you after I removed you and explained why you were removed. So don't give everyone all this bullshit about you not getting any notice WHY I am not going to allow a thief into Warlords unnoticed. Nothing to do with your player history. And then I told you I MAY consider your application at a much later time if I see enough devotion. MAY consider is the important word here, and I told you it may not go in your favor and to continue with that in mind.
I am not obligated to keep responding to your ever need after I already told you all the reasons why I think it would require some extreme dedication as a thief to enter.
Dav's note has nothing to do with your induction process, it is more so working out bugs from the new application process because you were put back on the applicant pool after I uninducted you.
Lorne
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The rule is, it's my cabal and I can do whatever I see fit in the guidelines. Like Nyct said, you don't get in a cabal just because you "waited" a week, and fought a couple people with sanc as a thief. I can induct you whenever I want, IF I actually I want. Just because you get the minimum requirements of a cabal, doesn't mean you get an automatic entry.
This just to show you didn't have the dedication, because you already whining and bitching on the forums after waiting a week and playing a total of 70 hours. And ya Thorgoth, I can punish anyway I like in my cabal, if you don't like it then don't be a Warlord.
Lorne
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I respond to all applicants and members in a very timely fashion. I think all the cabal members and applicants can attest to that, I'd like to hear otherwise.
Arunore
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sounds like a shitshow. nyc ya shud stick to codin bruh cause you fucking suck with immersion
Ozaru says "I would imagine people would be considerate of everyones time and not just waste it."
Gimme a break dude. Do you know how much of multiple Immortals' time YOU have wasted through cheating? Every time you cheat they have to spend their free time monitoring, confirming, and dealing with your bullshit instead of doing things that would benefit the whole community, like fixing bugs or creating new areas. You're so full of shit it's coming out your nose. Seriously, I have never come across a more entitled narcissist since Trump got elected.
I feel I was involved enough in this guys application that I feel this is really not fair to complain about Lorne for. If I had told him to immediately deal with he would've. Mistakes were made along the way, and I think he did the best he could with what tools we had at the time, and the directions I gave him (or maybe you could say didn't give him).
Overall it looks like a complaint that the application was stagnating because leaders aren't hands-on enough with the applicants. Obviously, just be more responsive is an easy solution, and the code changes I made are intended to help with that. But I think the best thing Lorne could do there is make somebody the leader instead of trying to keep up with the times. The downside is that comes with needing to hand the reins over and accept if that leader decides a thief is acceptable then it is. The question becomes whether we'd rather have a stagnant Warlord cabal or a thief in Warlords. I personally would take the thief, but that's me.
I think what happened with this character was ultimately a good thing because it gave some urgency to the code changes. There are already live code changes that solve all the problems that occurred here. It will now be very difficult to justify removing someone who has been inducted, for instance, as that would mean not responding to their application for a whole week, then coming back long after the fact to overrule everybody. I don't think we'll have that problem. Its certainly not the same problem as what we've seen in the past, which is people self-induct or get vote-inducted characters the same hour they applied and removed sensibly the next day.
Yet again this gets thrown in my face, never asked for a who list, never coordinated log ins, never used ooc for pk. Created an alt and ranked myself and a shit load of you. But thats fine whatever little fun I was trying to pull out of this game ends in the same shit storm.
Davairus
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Ozaru after I was done talking with you and then doing the coding, they went about processing your application via voting on it, and I saw there was definitely a split. Morgarl had the deciding vote, but he did not cast yet, so I think you've deleted prematurely. You did have plenty of positive favor. I think a disapprove from an Immortal isn't the same as him closing the application, and I definitely don't think the intent was to jerk you around. That is not how it looked to me. If you are going to complain about people not responding, you should really be complaining about Morgarl at this point. The others fielded your application and there was really nothing else to do about it without Morgarls feedback
So after Lorne’s rant of I did this I did that may do this my canal application was in the hands of a new player who already approved me? That doesn’t make sense and you are telling me my beef should be with him? Lorne uninducted me not him Lorne said I needed to prove myself now you are telling me it was up to a vote with one guy left to cast a vote a second time? This makes no sense. If that truly was the case me asking for feedback or an update after two weeks of silence is that bad? No one could say hey we took a vote it’s 50/50 just waiting on morgarl that’s an opportunity for role play don’t you think. Morgal please confirm this is true
you prematurely deleted, than, like always (classic Ozaru move) you turn to the forums to cry and make a big scene. I have literally lost count over the years how many times I have seen you do exactly this. Maybe if you didn't make a scene every time you don't get your way you might even get your way once in a while. If I was an immortal I would go out of my way to dick you over just to see your reaction, but I guess that's why I'm not an imm. Also, you fucking lie through your teeth it's amazing. "I failed black jack and than suicided" I landed blind and you were toast so instead of dieing to me. you suicided.
Ozaru
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Oh man I was waiting for this lol. Yeah you are awesome why didn’t you post the log of me destroying you? Yes you blinded me stood job lol I have no way to cure it big man but if I wanted I could have hid rock. I could feel how hard your dick got when you thought I’m getting my fucking Stetson back my titanium full plate amber sleeves and spiked light steel shit and them boom I suicided so that shit would be all over winter ahahahahahahahahha you are still pissed. But hey your character is alive with one less person to fight enjoy
Uh. I have no idea. I definitely did see that you were in the "applicant" list again after you were unindicted. But no one ever said a word to me about it nor were there any notes about it so I had no idea what it meant. I didn't know if it was some mistake or bug or something that he was on that list. All I knew was that Davairus was making changes to the applicant thing and that Lorne had uninducted him. So never did it ever occur to me that I was supposed to vote on his application without anyone else saying anything about it. No one ever mentioned Vicohn at all to me after he was uninducted. So I just figured him being on the list was some kind of mistake with the coding changes being made. And while I thought he handled being uninducted well imo and wouldn't have been opposed to him being inducted again, I wouldn't have voted contrary to Lorne. I mean idk wtf I'm talking about half the time so idk how I would ever go against everyone else's opinion and expect them to not think I'm an imbecile.
My only interaction ever with Lorne was one time I sent him a note with some questions and he never answered. And once I actually saw him in game and he said hi and then never responded to anything else I said so I quit out.
lol what ever helps you sleep at night. I got exactly what I wanted. revenge. Happened to make you completely naked too which was even better as you were camping seringale so you would have gotten a bunch of shit back instead you were 100% naked. I got your gold and the satisfaction. cheers mate
Ozaru
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Leadership at its finest and you wonder why I get so upset blame the guy who knows nothing instead of the guy in charge
Nycticora
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it's not blame, if your character was good enough Morgarl would have been more interested in it and asked some questions to the other Warlords or the other Warlords would have been talking about it in his presence. Since your character was halfass and mediocre and wasn't worth talking about Morgarl barely knew it existed. Working as intended
Davairus
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While the above is true I do wonder what the result would be if you had rolled a female duergar now
Ozaru
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Well that makes sense first you tell me it’s Morgarls fault and I should blame him now you speak for morgarl and say my character was garbage. You guys are hilarious unqualified with anything remotely related to leadership it’s a good thing you control a nostalgic text based game and not something important
Davairus
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i mean you read it already he was going to vote no ie not good enough. i didnt say it
Davairus
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I dont want to get off on a tangent here with you ozaru. I would rather stay focused on the problem. Your application got stuck, and I think there is a bit of a toss-up whether you deleted too fast or Morgarl didn't respond quickly enough. That's why I'm saying this is definitely between you and Morgarl to decide. You guys are both partly responsible for this current outcome. However, three other members of Warlords locked in their decisions and it was still uncertain (i.e. not a strong yes). I think its reasonable to say that many votes is enough to justify waiting longer for the applicant to prove himself. By deleting, you have answered that. This seems like the system succeeded
Lorne
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Your lack of dedication and patience is your ultimate demise. I am not letting any half ass thief to be the first Warlord.
I sent you like a 4 page 101 on playing berserkers Morgarl.
Well, I didn't know the exact situation with Vicohn, but... When experimenting or going off the beaten path, it helps to have some Immortal input. At least having them know what you are doing is a good idea...
Straight up, I feel like I gave you a task that would have lead to your induction. After you killed khiotha, and beat another warlord in a no sanctuary dual you were very close to my approval. I made an effort to seek you out, spend time with you, and make you feel like someone cared. Had you of just waited, I would have soon approved your app and petitioned Lorne to give you a chance. I don't have anything else to say.
I made this character because I wanted to one prac a character with high con and high enough wis int to get 3 prac and duergar was the right choice. A thief with almost 1k hp would be amazing right!! I ended up with 951 I could have had 971 with the two trains I had left over.
Now early on I asked Conundo hey can thieves get into warlords he said he wasn't sure. He then gives me tasks and im thinking ok cool looks like I can get in. Master everything except pry and steal for whatever reason backstab stayed at 99% and sidestep was like 95% everything else was mastered a lot easier than you think. Even second and third attack I mastered from 41%.
Now I get inducted a day later Lorne uninducts me no note, not in person nothing, just shits on my character. Says I must prove myself I fight duels with no sanc, win some lose some, kill the "baddest" pker Khiotha relatively easily then I just get tired of waiting. I die a few times to mobs in winter because of no sanc.
Just sick of it. Take this shit seriously and treat players like they are worth something not just a shit stain on your boot. If you didn't want me in Warlords just say so, not have me holding my dick in my hand for over a week playing at least 2 hours a day.
I wrote 3 notes, prayed a few times asking for an update or decision no response. Since I got no response I failed my black jack on Khiotha and suicded, that function is nuts btw.
Rhiahnon 0 , 0 , 0 . This is straight from HELP WARLORD:
Morgarl 0 , 0 , 0 . I'm like 90% sure that quote from help warlord was added AFTER the Vicohn uninduction.
Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . Yeah the help file was very general before the change you basically didn't have to use magic. I was inducted at lvl 25 and ranked to about 42 i think before I was uninducted. Which was about 2 or 3 weeks ago. When I mentioned the waiting time of over a week. that was probably 2 weeks after this entire ordeal started. All I wanted was resolution to move and i got tired of my character being held hostage.
Nycticora 0 , 0 , 0 . you don't have the right to get into any cabal Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . That is probably the most intelligent thing you have ever said Nycticora 0 , 0 , 1 . why do you feel like you have the right to get into any cabal you decide to try for? Your character was only around for 23 days. Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . I never expected to get into Warlords, and I stated that numerous times. What I expected is a timely decision. How long do I need to wait to hear a no so I could move on with my character?
Nycticora 0 , 0 , 0 . ok so the sequence of events here was: 1. you ranked up in a week 2. you got inducted by a level 4 warlord with no real drama despite being a thief 3. the cabal imm doesn't like a thief being fasttracked or something and removes you 4. you can't use sanc or stance anymore so you freak out
Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . If I wanted to freak out in a rp mud it would be when an immortal uninducted me from a cabal without a reason, without a face to face without a note, I just wake up boom I am no longer a warlord. No immortal is answering my question as to why it took over 2 weeks to get a response. How long would anyone be expected to wait for any type of role play because that would be an awesome opportunity instead of just silence. That same immortal didn't have a problem with a warlord using magic to get to level 50 every step of the way but yeah that guy is new and I am not. So no favoritism at all. Nycticora 0 , 0 , 0 . you chose to apply to Warlord and it meant your death. It was a good death, own it. You chose a path that required the utmost conviction halfheartedly and it ended predictably. "I never expected to get into Warlords" -> gravestone, every time.
[reply to Ozaru]"Warriors, berserkers, rangers and monks are the only accepted guilds. Other classes may be considered in EXTREME circumstances. Apply at your own risk."
You applied at your own Risk. Also, you refer to having to wait for "over a week" as some ungodly unfair amount of time. You need to reset you expectations around that. A week is not a long time.
Also it is probably the absolute biggest handicap in the whole game to have nomagic and not be a warlord. No sanctuary is pretty much the be all end all of everything in this game. That was my fear with applying to Warlord. Because I didn't do it the "normal" way either. But I was much luckier and the inducted me way faster than I was expecting.
Now I don't know or necessarily even have an opinion on who is "right" in all of this. Just pointing out my observations and admitting that I definitely felt bad for Vicohn. Shitty situation.
What I find ultimately disgusting about the immortal involvement here is Lorne said I am a veteran player and I should have spoke to him personally before attempting something like this. So obviously his decision on whether or not he would even care to get back to me is now based on my character history. I honestly did not care whether I got in or not, what was complete bullshit is playing everyday and not getting any resolution to a simple problem.
Davirus sent a note 2 weeks ago about investigating what happened with my uninduction I never got a response from Lorne, I waited a week, sent him a note personally for an update. Waited a week while playing everyday and never received a response. I would have been happy to have been uncaballed, I just wanted an answer.
I have a limited window when I can play I don't expect immortals to be always around which is why I sent a note. I would imagine people would be considerate of everyones time and not just waste it. Clearly Lorne didn't give a shit to even craft a response over a 2 week period.
was there any point during this sequence of events where you could have made a decision before the immortal had control of this situation?
[reply to Nadrin]
[reply to Ozaru]
[reply to Nycticora]
As an Immortal (and person of this community) our responsibility is to model the way for how players should behave and set an example.
This situation seems crappy based on what I’ve read. If you are going to set a rule and say that a certain class can’t join a cabal, then don’t punish someone who has already met requirements and been inducted by a senior member (who should be punished harder than the applicant for not seeking counsel on an outlier applicant), just close the gate for future applicants. Or if you do - that’s fine, things change, just communicate to them that this was a mistake and give some closure. It’s super easy to give 5 minutes to a note to explain and then let the player decide what they are going to do with that information.
Nyc - I appreciate all you do for this game, but your lack of empathy is a bit repulsive and pushes away loyal players, Just pump the brakes bro, please, for the sake of the game.
Ozaru 1 , 0 , 0 . Thank you, that means a lot. Nycticora 1 , 1 , 0 . Maybe I'm empathizing with the immortal who has the right to run his cabal any way he sees fit? Your claim of a lack of empathy is probably projection if you can't see the issue from all sides. But I wouldn't expect an imm who hasn't logged in since february 25 to know anything about how to run a cabal so you're forgiven Lorne 0 , 0 , 0 . You were inducted a couple of days after you sent your application by Conundo. I don't know what he said to you, but I didn't even read your application before you were inducted without notice.
Lorne 0 , 0 , 0 . The rule is, it's my cabal and I can do whatever I see fit in the guidelines. Like Nyct said, you don't get in a cabal just because you "waited" a week, and fought a couple people with sanc as a thief. I can induct you whenever I want, IF I actually I want. Just because you get the minimum requirements of a cabal, doesn't mean you get an automatic entry.
Lorne 0 , 0 , 0 . I respond to all applicants and members in a very timely fashion. I think all the cabal members and applicants can attest to that, I'd like to hear otherwise. Arunore 1 , 0 , 0 . sounds like a shitshow. nyc ya shud stick to codin bruh cause you fucking suck with immersion
[reply to Thorgoth]I transferred you after I removed you and explained why you were removed. So don't give everyone all this bullshit about you not getting any notice WHY I am not going to allow a thief into Warlords unnoticed. Nothing to do with your player history. And then I told you I MAY consider your application at a much later time if I see enough devotion. MAY consider is the important word here, and I told you it may not go in your favor and to continue with that in mind.
I am not obligated to keep responding to your ever need after I already told you all the reasons why I think it would require some extreme dedication as a thief to enter.
Dav's note has nothing to do with your induction process, it is more so working out bugs from the new application process because you were put back on the applicant pool after I uninducted you.
This just to show you didn't have the dedication, because you already whining and bitching on the forums after waiting a week and playing a total of 70 hours. And ya Thorgoth, I can punish anyway I like in my cabal, if you don't like it then don't be a Warlord.
Gimme a break dude. Do you know how much of multiple Immortals' time YOU have wasted through cheating? Every time you cheat they have to spend their free time monitoring, confirming, and dealing with your bullshit instead of doing things that would benefit the whole community, like fixing bugs or creating new areas. You're so full of shit it's coming out your nose. Seriously, I have never come across a more entitled narcissist since Trump got elected.
[reply to Samarah]
Overall it looks like a complaint that the application was stagnating because leaders aren't hands-on enough with the applicants. Obviously, just be more responsive is an easy solution, and the code changes I made are intended to help with that. But I think the best thing Lorne could do there is make somebody the leader instead of trying to keep up with the times. The downside is that comes with needing to hand the reins over and accept if that leader decides a thief is acceptable then it is. The question becomes whether we'd rather have a stagnant Warlord cabal or a thief in Warlords. I personally would take the thief, but that's me.
I think what happened with this character was ultimately a good thing because it gave some urgency to the code changes. There are already live code changes that solve all the problems that occurred here. It will now be very difficult to justify removing someone who has been inducted, for instance, as that would mean not responding to their application for a whole week, then coming back long after the fact to overrule everybody. I don't think we'll have that problem. Its certainly not the same problem as what we've seen in the past, which is people self-induct or get vote-inducted characters the same hour they applied and removed sensibly the next day.
[reply to Davairus]
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . Ozaru after I was done talking with you and then doing the coding, they went about processing your application via voting on it, and I saw there was definitely a split. Morgarl had the deciding vote, but he did not cast yet, so I think you've deleted prematurely. You did have plenty of positive favor. I think a disapprove from an Immortal isn't the same as him closing the application, and I definitely don't think the intent was to jerk you around. That is not how it looked to me. If you are going to complain about people not responding, you should really be complaining about Morgarl at this point. The others fielded your application and there was really nothing else to do about it without Morgarls feedback
[reply to Ozaru]Khiotha 1 , 0 , 0 . you prematurely deleted, than, like always (classic Ozaru move) you turn to the forums to cry and make a big scene. I have literally lost count over the years how many times I have seen you do exactly this. Maybe if you didn't make a scene every time you don't get your way you might even get your way once in a while. If I was an immortal I would go out of my way to dick you over just to see your reaction, but I guess that's why I'm not an imm. Also, you fucking lie through your teeth it's amazing. "I failed black jack and than suicided" I landed blind and you were toast so instead of dieing to me. you suicided. Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . Oh man I was waiting for this lol. Yeah you are awesome why didn’t you post the log of me destroying you? Yes you blinded me stood job lol I have no way to cure it big man but if I wanted I could have hid rock. I could feel how hard your dick got when you thought I’m getting my fucking Stetson back my titanium full plate amber sleeves and spiked light steel shit and them boom I suicided so that shit would be all over winter ahahahahahahahahha you are still pissed. But hey your character is alive with one less person to fight enjoy Morgarl 0 , 0 , 0 . Uh. I have no idea. I definitely did see that you were in the "applicant" list again after you were unindicted. But no one ever said a word to me about it nor were there any notes about it so I had no idea what it meant. I didn't know if it was some mistake or bug or something that he was on that list. All I knew was that Davairus was making changes to the applicant thing and that Lorne had uninducted him. So never did it ever occur to me that I was supposed to vote on his application without anyone else saying anything about it. No one ever mentioned Vicohn at all to me after he was uninducted. So I just figured him being on the list was some kind of mistake with the coding changes being made. And while I thought he handled being uninducted well imo and wouldn't have been opposed to him being inducted again, I wouldn't have voted contrary to Lorne. I mean idk wtf I'm talking about half the time so idk how I would ever go against everyone else's opinion and expect them to not think I'm an imbecile.
Khiotha 0 , 0 , 0 . lol what ever helps you sleep at night. I got exactly what I wanted. revenge. Happened to make you completely naked too which was even better as you were camping seringale so you would have gotten a bunch of shit back instead you were 100% naked. I got your gold and the satisfaction. cheers mate Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . Leadership at its finest and you wonder why I get so upset blame the guy who knows nothing instead of the guy in charge Nycticora 0 , 0 , 0 . it's not blame, if your character was good enough Morgarl would have been more interested in it and asked some questions to the other Warlords or the other Warlords would have been talking about it in his presence. Since your character was halfass and mediocre and wasn't worth talking about Morgarl barely knew it existed. Working as intended Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . While the above is true I do wonder what the result would be if you had rolled a female duergar now Ozaru 0 , 0 , 0 . Well that makes sense first you tell me it’s Morgarls fault and I should blame him now you speak for morgarl and say my character was garbage. You guys are hilarious unqualified with anything remotely related to leadership it’s a good thing you control a nostalgic text based game and not something important Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . i mean you read it already he was going to vote no ie not good enough. i didnt say it Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . I dont want to get off on a tangent here with you ozaru. I would rather stay focused on the problem. Your application got stuck, and I think there is a bit of a toss-up whether you deleted too fast or Morgarl didn't respond quickly enough. That's why I'm saying this is definitely between you and Morgarl to decide. You guys are both partly responsible for this current outcome. However, three other members of Warlords locked in their decisions and it was still uncertain (i.e. not a strong yes). I think its reasonable to say that many votes is enough to justify waiting longer for the applicant to prove himself. By deleting, you have answered that. This seems like the system succeeded Lorne 0 , 0 , 0 . Your lack of dedication and patience is your ultimate demise. I am not letting any half ass thief to be the first Warlord.
[reply to Ozaru]My only interaction ever with Lorne was one time I sent him a note with some questions and he never answered. And once I actually saw him in game and he said hi and then never responded to anything else I said so I quit out.
I sent you like a 4 page 101 on playing berserkers Morgarl.
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