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Ceridwel's idea for a new class
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:06 pm    Post subject:

OK hows this. If someone makes a Lawful good, sun-initiated human warrior warlord with a nice samurai background I'll give it this:

- "sacred armor" (it'll just give AC)
- set parry instead of dodge/riposte
- a disarm that casts flashfire on every attempt, instead of having dirt kick.

First come first served. One time offer.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:14 pm    Post subject:

waiting for the deluge
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:46 pm    Post subject:

I'm pretty sure you can't initiate to the sun element if you're lawful good?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:52 am    Post subject:

well if thats the case illl allow neutral good then
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:46 pm    Post subject:

How about a Balancer class that is good against Good and Evil but do badly against Neutrals?

The true neutral spec will have stuff like a passive that deals more damage to/take less damage from good and evil but less/more against neutrals.

If you want to outright make it a Keeper class, they could also be given some perks for not using rares.

Lawful neutral and Chaotic neutral specs will be more focused on countering each other. They could have some abilities that make orderly/chaotic items more/less useful too.

Also, please allow Gnomes to play this hybrid class.
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grant



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:15 am    Post subject:

God, please make it an artificer.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:57 pm    Post subject:

Ok, I've been thinking about this a lot. I really like the idea, and I think I cracked the name. "Warden" as in Nature's Warden. It would be a nature/wilderness based class that takes from Ranger and Druid skills. Just like how paladins and DKs take from healer/shaman respectively. They'd cast by chanting, so neither communing or casting.

They wouldn't get any of the ritual circles of the druid, that's too specialized. No fancy bow stuff either. They would get protection creature, barkskin, and maybe call beast, but only get one beast at a time (I dunno about that, could take it or leave it). They could get something called Strike of Nature to parallel strike of faith/pain. Summon stag too. I don't have any ideas for the high level really unique stuff though. At least not yet.

What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:00 pm    Post subject:

I think that's a solid place to start, Xerties. I think your previous suggestion of Sentinel is just as good as Warden. Both imply a heavily-armored defender of the natural order of things: a preservation of the balance between evil and good.

Their goals don't have to EXACTLY align with Keepers, in the same way that it works for paladins/knights and DK/Legion. There are similarities (preservation of the balance), but Keepers draw the line at rares, whereas a 'Warden' doesn't have to. But, there are natural synergies there.

Werebeast should have access to this class as well, as a sort of stand-in for Jotun's having access to paladin/DK. Like other hybrids, giants shouldn't have access to it (sorry treants and minotaurs Sad ).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm    Post subject:

It should be Jotun. Good, neutral, evil Jotun - the ultimate race for hybrid bastions.

Also, Jotun died out real bad since the initial hype. Need more Jotuns jo
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:24 am    Post subject:

Warden is dope!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:28 pm    Post subject:

I was thinking something along the lines of Lancer/Dragoon might work well here too. It lends itself nicely to the theme of steed/charge/heavy armour/set-parry similar to Paladin & Dark-Knight. It’s also fairly general so tying in neutral alignment/magic might not complicate a lot of lore.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Dragoon sounds like a good name. They're mounted troops, just like the paladin and dark-knight, at least in the settings I'm aware of (Final Fantasy, Battle for Wesnoth, real world). I would generally assume lawful tendencies, though given what paladins are like in AR they may be just that, tendencies.

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