I missed the beginning where we attacked him at the juggernaut. Chul this was a direct action of the in game interactions your character has had with each of us. You should be almost honoured to have experienced an HGOD - they are rare.
<828hp 651m 494mv city (outside) 8am (day)> wher Players near you in Seringale: <PK> Chul Bloody Dojo <PK> Gwevym The Main Street <PK> Borgharv The Main Street Lanadrah Dungeon of Torture <PK> Ocelia Outside the East Gate <PK> Kali East of Market Square
<828hp 651m 494mv city (outside) 8am (day)> e The East Common Road +-S *| You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you are | || busy people hurrying along minding their own business. The +-* F +-*| smell of fresh bread wafts in from the north of here. A shop | | | | with a sign of an iron hammer is south. +-@-+-+| | | | || +-* S S +| | | | +-S-* | ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 651m 493mv road (outside) 8am (day)> e The East Common Road * | You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you | | are busy people hurrying along minding their own business. * F +-* | You see the entrance to the Warrior Guild to the north, | | | | a shop with a sign of a needle to the south, and the +-+-@-+-+| Common Road continues to the east and the west. | | | | | * S S +-+| | || S-* +| ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 651m 492mv road (outside) 8am (day)> e The Eastern Monument * | Standing in the center of the road is a large marble | | monument, chiseled at odd angles and serving as a landmark F +-* S| for Serin adventurers. Several dusty sets of footprints | | || can be seen around the base of the monument, as hundreds +-+-@-+-+| of passing citizens mark their paths from this large | | | || stone monolith. To the south you see a dark alley, and S S +-+ S| the Common Road continues to the east and west. | | | * +-+| ---------+
[Exits: east south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 651m 491mv city (outside) 8am (day)> s e Dangerous Alley F +-* S| You are in a narrow and dark alley. Tall buildings surround | | || this alley, casting dark shades over every corner. A nauseating +-+-+-+-+| smell fills your nose as you pass through this alley. Small | | | || pieces of trash litter the ground of the alley, giving S S @-+ S| little room to walk. There are sheets of faded paper pasted | | | on the walls of the alley, informing the pedestrians of * +-+| some past event. You see some light shining into the alley | | to the north and the alley continues to the south. + | ---------+
[Exits: north east] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 664m 517mv road (outside) 9am (day)> s Dangerous Alley +-* S-*| You are in a narrow and dark alley. Tall buildings surround | | | this alley, casting dark shades over every corner. A nauseating +-+-+-+-+| smell fills your nose as you pass through this alley. Small | | | | pieces of trash litter the ground of the alley, giving little S +-@ S *| room to walk. There are sheets of faded paper pasted on the | || walls of the alley, informing the pedestrians of some past +-+-*| event. You see some light shining into the alley to the north | | and the alley continues to the south. + | ---------+
[Exits: south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 664m 516mv road (outside) 9am (day)> e Dangerous Alley +-+-+-+-+| You are in a narrow and dark alley. Tall buildings surround | | | | this alley, casting dark shades over every corner. A nauseating S +-+ S *| smell fills your nose as you pass through this alley. Small | || pieces of trash litter the ground of the alley, giving little @-+-*| room to walk. There are sheets of faded paper pasted on the | | walls of the alley, informing the pedestrians of some past + + | event. There is a small entrance leading into one of the | | | buildings surrounding the alley to the east and the alley +-+-+ | continues to the north and south. ---------+
[Exits: north east south] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 664m 515mv road (outside) 9am (day)> Entrance of the Shadow Guild +-+-+ | An entrance leading inside a tall building is here. There are | | small symbols from the ancient past carved into the surrounding +-+ * | walls of the building. The doorframe of the entrance is covered | | | with carved dragons in flight. String beads hangs down from +-@-* | the top of the doorframe of the entrance, obstructing your | | view of the room inside the building. A slight smell of exotic + | incense trickles into your nostrils as you get closer to the | | entrance. The entrance into the building is to the north and +-+ | a dark alley is to the west. ---------+
[Exits: east west (up)] Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is here guarding the guild. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> o all k kianaa Kianaa the shadow guild guardian yells 'Alert! An illusion of a marine is attacking the guild with Kali!' An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian yells 'Alert! An illusion of a paladin is attacking the guild with Kali!' An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISMEMBERS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian yells 'Alert! An illusion of a marine is attacking the guild with Kali!' An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Ok. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch devastates an illusion of a marine! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch devastates an illusion of a marine! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISMEMBERS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian!
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> gt seringale You tell your group 'Seringale.'
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> A human city guard yells 'Give yourself up, Gwevym! This is your last chance!'
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Kianaa the shadow guild guardian yells 'Alert! The guild is being attacked by Kali!' Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch devastates an illusion of a marine! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch misses an illusion of a marine. Your pierce DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Your pierce MUTILATES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Your pierce MUTILATES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MASSACRES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISMEMBERS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISMEMBERS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MASSACRES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> an illusion of a marine: 97%hp where pk Players near you: <PK> Chul Bloody Dojo <PK> Gwevym The Main Street <PK> Borgharv South of Market Square <PK> Ocelia Dangerous Alley <PK> Kali Entrance of the Shadow Guild Kianaa the shadow guild guardian has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> an illusion of a marine: 97%hp Ocelia walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<828hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> an illusion of a marine: 97%hp Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch injures you. You parry Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch with an easy flourish. Your pierce DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian stumbles and barely dodges your pierce. Your pierce DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISMEMBERS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MASSACRES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian looks pretty hurt.
<812hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> where pk Players near you: <PK> Chul Bloody Dojo <PK> Gwevym The South Road <PK> Borgharv South of Market Square <PK> Ocelia Entrance of the Shadow Guild <PK> Kali Entrance of the Shadow Guild Kianaa the shadow guild guardian looks pretty hurt.
<812hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch injures you. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch injures you. Your pierce MUTILATES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Your pierce MUTILATES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! A rising sun medallion starts flaming and the room becomes very hot. You summon forth a stream of flame. Your flamestrike hits Kianaa the shadow guild guardian. Your pierce misses Kianaa the shadow guild guardian. An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a Paladin's smash DISMEMBERS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is in awful condition.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> where pk Players near you: <PK> Chul Shadow Guildhall <PK> Gwevym Dangerous Alley <PK> Borgharv South of Market Square <PK> Ocelia Entrance of the Shadow Guild <PK> Kali Entrance of the Shadow Guild Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is in awful condition.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Kianaa the shadow guild guardian closes her eyes for a moment as she invokes the ancient arts. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is in awful condition.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> c f chul They aren't here. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is in awful condition.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> c f chul They aren't here. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is in awful condition.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> c f chul They aren't here. Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is in awful condition.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> c f chul
You parry Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch with an easy flourish. You parry Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's punch with an easy flourish. Your pierce MUTILATES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Your pierce DISEMBOWELS Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian stumbles and barely dodges your pierce. An illusion of a marine's smash MANGLES Kianaa the shadow guild guardian! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is DEAD!! Kianaa the shadow guild guardian's arm is dismembered from her dead body. You get 203 gold coins from the corpse of Kianaa the shadow guild guardian. You split 203 gold coins. Your share is 102 gold coins. Aberdour gives you 35 gold coins for your sacrifice. You split 35 gold coins. Your share is 18 gold coins.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. They aren't here.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> c f chul They aren't here.
<784hp 664m 514mv city (outside) 9am (day)> east Shadow Guildhall | You are inside a large and dark room. The smell of exotic incense | floods the room with its fragrance. Small candles placed on + * | elaborately designed golden stands mounted on the walls of the | | | room lights the room dimly. Faint murmurs of rhythmic chanting +-+-@ | from a distance echoes throughout the room. You see a room to | | the north and the door leading out of the building to the west. + | | | + | ---------+
[Exits: north west] The guildhall's mission board has been set here. (Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger. (Translucent) (White Aura) Chul the Shadow Master of the Marama Kuei is here. Harakkai the trainee meditates here ready to strike a fatal blow. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<784hp 664m 513mv inside (indoors) 9am (day)> c f chul
Chul yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Gwevym!' Gwevym's wrath DISEMBOWELS Chul! Gwevym's wrath DISEMBOWELS Chul! Chul yells 'Die! Kali, you sorcerous dog!' Chul is surrounded by a pink outline. Chul's pierce DISEMBOWELS you! Chul has quite a few wounds.
<741hp 659m 513mv inside (indoors) 9am (day)> You feel more courage in Gwevym's presence. Chul dances around your pierce, easily dodging it. Chul awkwardly parries your pierce with a loud clang. Your pierce decimates Chul! Chul's pierce MUTILATES you! Chul's pierce DISEMBOWELS you! You parry a special guard's pierce. A special guard's pierce devastates you! Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. An illusion of a marine's smash MUTILATES Chul! An illusion of a marine's smash MUTILATES Chul! Gwevym's wrath DISEMBOWELS Chul! Chul has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<628hp 659m 513mv inside (indoors) 9am (day)> Chul has fled! Chul walks west. A special guard has fled! A special guard walks north.
<628hp 659m 513mv inside (indoors) 9am (day)> c terrain $$ west c terrain $$ They aren't here.
<628hp 659m 513mv inside (indoors) 9am (day)> Entrance of the Shadow Guild +-+-+ | An entrance leading inside a tall building is here. There are | | small symbols from the ancient past carved into the surrounding +-+ * | walls of the building. The doorframe of the entrance is covered | | | with carved dragons in flight. String beads hangs down from +-@-* | the top of the doorframe of the entrance, obstructing your | | view of the room inside the building. A slight smell of exotic + | incense trickles into your nostrils as you get closer to the | | entrance. The entrance into the building is to the north and +-+ | a dark alley is to the west. ---------+
[Exits: east west (up)] The sliced-off arm of Kianaa the shadow guild guardian is lying here. (Charmed) An illusion of a Paladin guards its master. (Charmed) A blurry illusion of a Paladin guards its master. (Charmed) An illusion of a Paladin guards its master. (White Aura) (WANTED) Ocelia the Grand Spectre of Beguilement is here. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 512mv city (outside) 9am (day)> scan
Gwevym walks west. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks west. They aren't here.
<628hp 659m 512mv city (outside) 9am (day)> You scan all around. You scan east. *** Range 1 (east) *** Harakkai the trainee meditates here ready to strike a fatal blow. You scan west. *** Range 1 (west) *** (Charmed) A mighty gules lion is here, faithfully guarding its master. (White Aura) (WANTED) Gwevym the Holy Knight is here. You scan up.
<628hp 659m 512mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Ocelia walks west. An illusion of a Paladin walks west. An illusion of a Paladin walks west. An illusion of a Paladin walks west.
<628hp 659m 512mv city (outside) 9am (day)> where pk north Players near you: <PK> Chul Dangerous Alley <PK> Gwevym Dangerous Alley <PK> Borgharv The West Common Road <PK> Ocelia Dangerous Alley <PK> Ilromie The East Common Road <PK> Kali Entrance of the Shadow Guild
<628hp 659m 512mv city (outside) 9am (day)> west The back of a run-down building is all that you find in that direction.
<628hp 659m 512mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Dangerous Alley +-+-+-+-+| You are in a narrow and dark alley. Tall buildings surround | | | | this alley, casting dark shades over every corner. A nauseating S +-+ S *| smell fills your nose as you pass through this alley. Small | || pieces of trash litter the ground of the alley, giving little @-+-*| room to walk. There are sheets of faded paper pasted on the | | walls of the alley, informing the pedestrians of some past + + | event. There is a small entrance leading into one of the | | | buildings surrounding the alley to the east and the alley +-+-+ | continues to the north and south. ---------+
[Exits: north east south] (Charmed) An illusion of a Paladin guards its master. (Charmed) A blurry illusion of a Paladin guards its master. (Charmed) An illusion of a Paladin guards its master. (White Aura) (WANTED) Ocelia the Grand Spectre of Beguilement is here. (Charmed) A mighty gules lion is here, faithfully guarding its master. (White Aura) (WANTED) Gwevym the Holy Knight is here. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 511mv road (outside) 9am (day)> north Dangerous Alley +-* S-*| You are in a narrow and dark alley. Tall buildings surround | | | this alley, casting dark shades over every corner. A nauseating +-+-+-+-+| smell fills your nose as you pass through this alley. Small | | | | pieces of trash litter the ground of the alley, giving little S +-@ S *| room to walk. There are sheets of faded paper pasted on the | || walls of the alley, informing the pedestrians of some past +-+-*| event. You see some light shining into the alley to the north | | and the alley continues to the south. + | ---------+
[Exits: south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 510mv road (outside) 9am (day)> c terrain $$ They aren't here.
<628hp 659m 510mv road (outside) 9am (day)> west Ocelia walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. Dangerous Alley F +-* S| You are in a narrow and dark alley. Tall buildings surround | | || this alley, casting dark shades over every corner. A nauseating +-+-+-+-+| smell fills your nose as you pass through this alley. Small | | | || pieces of trash litter the ground of the alley, giving S S @-+ S| little room to walk. There are sheets of faded paper pasted | | | on the walls of the alley, informing the pedestrians of * +-+| some past event. You see some light shining into the alley | | to the north and the alley continues to the south. + | ---------+
[Exits: north east] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 509mv road (outside) 9am (day)> north
Ocelia walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. The Eastern Monument * | Standing in the center of the road is a large marble | | monument, chiseled at odd angles and serving as a landmark F +-* S| for Serin adventurers. Several dusty sets of footprints | | || can be seen around the base of the monument, as hundreds +-+-@-+-+| of passing citizens mark their paths from this large | | | || stone monolith. To the south you see a dark alley, and S S +-+ S| the Common Road continues to the east and west. | | | * +-+| ---------+
[Exits: east south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 508mv city (outside) 9am (day)> where pk west Players near you: <PK> Chul Inside the East Gate <PK> Gwevym The Eastern Monument <PK> Borgharv The West Common Road <PK> Ocelia Dangerous Alley <PK> Ilromie The East Common Road <PK> Kali The Eastern Monument
<628hp 659m 508mv city (outside) 9am (day)> west The East Common Road * | You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you | | are busy people hurrying along minding their own business. * F +-* | You see the entrance to the Warrior Guild to the north, | | | | a shop with a sign of a needle to the south, and the +-+-@-+-+| Common Road continues to the east and the west. | | | | | * S S +-+| | || S-* +| ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 507mv road (outside) 9am (day)> The East Common Road +-S *| You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you are | || busy people hurrying along minding their own business. The +-* F +-*| smell of fresh bread wafts in from the north of here. A shop | | | | with a sign of an iron hammer is south. +-@-+-+| | | | || +-* S S +| | | | +-S-* | ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. A gnomish city guard yells 'Justice will come to you, Gwevym!!'
<628hp 659m 506mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east east east The East Common Road * | You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you | | are busy people hurrying along minding their own business. * F +-* | You see the entrance to the Warrior Guild to the north, | | | | a shop with a sign of a needle to the south, and the +-+-@-+-+| Common Road continues to the east and the west. | | | | | * S S +-+| | || S-* +| ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 505mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east east where pk The Eastern Monument * | Standing in the center of the road is a large marble | | monument, chiseled at odd angles and serving as a landmark F +-* S| for Serin adventurers. Several dusty sets of footprints | | || can be seen around the base of the monument, as hundreds +-+-@-+-+| of passing citizens mark their paths from this large | | | || stone monolith. To the south you see a dark alley, and S S +-+ S| the Common Road continues to the east and west. | | | * +-+| ---------+
[Exits: east south west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 504mv city (outside) 9am (day)> The East Common Road * | You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you | | are busy people hurrying along minding their own business. +-* S-*| The Common Road continues to the east and the west. | | | +-+-@-+-+| | | | | S +-+ S | | | +-+-*| ---------+
[Exits: east west] (Charmed) A doberman is here, protecting his owner. Auhla the Kingpin is here. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 503mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east The East Common Road +| You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you || are busy people hurrying along minding their own business. S-* +| You see a shop with a sign of a leather collar to the | || north, a shop with a sign of a glittering diamond to +-+-@-+-+| the south, and the Common Road continues to the east | | || and the west. +-+ S +| | || +-+ +| ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] A long-haired lanky man with piercing blue eyes stands here. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 502mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east east east The East Common Road + | You are on the Common Road of Seringale. All around you | | are busy people hurrying along minding their own business. S-* + | The Common Road continues to the east and the west. | | | +-+-@-+-+| | | | S + | | | + | ---------+
[Exits: east west] (White Aura) (WANTED) Ilromie the Sage of Arcane Power, Polymath of History is here. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 501mv road (outside) 9am (day)> Players near you: <PK> Gwevym The East Common Road <PK> Borgharv The West Common Road <PK> Ocelia The Eastern Monument <PK> Ilromie The East Common Road <PK> Kali The East Common Road
<628hp 659m 501mv road (outside) 9am (day)> Inside the East Gate + | You are inside the East Gate of Seringale. All around you | | are people travelling in and out of the city. The great wall S-* + | of Seringale soars over your head at over 30 spans tall. | | | You see the city to the west, the east gate above you, and +-+-@-+-+| the city walls lead to the north and south. | | | S + | | | + | ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] A gate guard is here guarding the gates of Seringale. A gate guard is here guarding the gates of Seringale. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. A gate guard steps aside and allows you to pass him. A gate guard steps aside and allows you to pass him.
<628hp 659m 500mv city (outside) 9am (day)> A gate guard steps aside and allows you to pass him. A gate guard steps aside and allows you to pass him.
<628hp 659m 500mv city (outside) 9am (day)> Outside the East Gate + | You are outside the East Gate of Seringale. Before you is a | | great wall. It is made of huge slabs of white stones with + | various figures of birds, beasts, and dragons carved into | | it. The great wall soars over your head at over 30 spans tall. +-+-@-+-+| You see the entrance into the city of Seringale to the west | | and a road travelling out of the city to the east. + | | | + | ---------+
[Exits: east west] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 499mv city (outside) 9am (day)> east east City Entrance + | You stand on the outskirts of Seringale, the capital of this | | land. The road leads east along a dusty road, while to the west + | it becomes the main street of the town, surrounded by a mass | | confusion of shops, bars, and market places. The east gates of +-+-@-+-+| the town lie directly to the west of here. | | + | | | + | ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 498mv road (outside) 9am (day)> where pk Along the Eastern Road | You are traveling along a well-travelled road between | Seringale and the lands to the east. The path has been | created from a light stone material that is very resilient. | It has worn away over time from the flow of traffic that +-+-@-+-+| has passed through here. This is one of Serin's busiest | trade routes. | | | ---------+
[Exits: east west] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 497mv road (outside) 9am (day)> Along the Eastern Road | You are traveling along a well-travelled road between | Seringale and the lands to the east. The path has been | created from a light stone material that is very resilient. | It has worn away over time from the flow of traffic that +-+-@-+-+| has passed through here. This is one of Serin's busiest | trade routes. | | | ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 496mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east east Along the Eastern Road o| You are traveling along a well-travelled road between || Seringale and the lands to the east. The path has been o| created from a light stone material that is very resilient. || It has worn away over time from the flow of traffic that +-+-@-+-+| has passed through here. This is one of Serin's busiest || trade routes. +| || +-+| ---------+
[Exits: east west] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 495mv road (outside) 9am (day)> Players near you: <PK> Chul On the Eastern Road <PK> Gwevym Along the Eastern Road <PK> Ilromie Along the Eastern Road <PK> Kali Along the Eastern Road
<628hp 659m 495mv road (outside) 9am (day)> Gwevym closes his eyes momentarily. Along the Eastern Road o | You are traveling along a well-travelled road between Seringale | | and the lands to the east. A northern road crosses this o | one to the east. The path has been created from a light | | stone material that is very resilient. It has worn away +-+-@-+-+| over time from the flow of traffic that has passed through | | here. This is one of Serin's busiest trade routes. + | | | +-+ | ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<628hp 659m 494mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east The Crossroads o | Here, the great eastern road intersects with an older road | | between the mines of Tenebria and the ruined city of Thalos. o | The outskirts of Seringale lie to your west, and the highway | | continues to the east. An old northern road leads to the +-+-@-+-+| dwarven kingdom and the abandoned mines, while the southern | | road shows the scars of the war which destroyed Thalos. + | | | +-+ | ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] The caravan attendant is here, looking dejected. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<628hp 659m 493mv road (outside) 9am (day)> east where pk Along the Eastern Road o | You are walking along a well-travelled road between Seringale | | and lands east. A northern road crosses this one to the west, o | towards Seringale. The path has been created from a light stone | | material that is very resilient. It has worn away over time +-+-@-+-+| from the flow of traffic that has passed through here. This | || is one of Serin's busiest trade routes. + +| | | +-+ | ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. The world seems to grow larger as you regain normal size.
<649hp 668m 519mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Along the Eastern Road o | The road heads southwards from here, meandering its way slowly | | around the outskirts of the dwarven kingdom. Its resilient stone o | path has resisted much of the wear created by the bustle of traders | | and merchants travelling in between the two cities. To the northeast +-+-@-+ | you see a huge monastery, built inside a grove and surrounded | | | by a patch of grass. + +-+| | | + | ---------+
[Exits: east west] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<649hp 668m 518mv road (outside) 10am (day)> east south Players near you: <PK> Chul On the Eastern Road <PK> Gwevym Along the Eastern Road <PK> Ocelia Along the Eastern Road <PK> Ilromie Along the Eastern Road <PK> Kali Along the Eastern Road
<649hp 668m 518mv road (outside) 10am (day)> east east The Dragon Statue | The road is forced south suddenly here, dug around a towering | statue of a black dragon. The bypass heads south and then | east. Taking advantage of the statue's prominence, someone | has set up a small shack with several large carts lined +-+-@ | up inside it. | | +-+-+| | | ---------+
[Exits: south west] A sign is here, showing what services are offered. There is a cart here, covered by a colorful cloth. The cartmaster is sitting on a trade caravan. This young girl looks happy to guide travelers along the roads. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<649hp 668m 517mv road (outside) 10am (day)> east On the Eastern Road | The Eastern Road continues its journey eastwards towards | the City of Timaran. It makes its way around the dwarven +-+-+ | kingdom steadily and neatly. To the south of here you | | can see a dark forest, looking fairly barren in population @-+-+| and its trees stunted. It looks very dwarven. Eastwards | the road continues, its resilient surface resisting the | erosion caused by the bustle of trade passing through | the area. | ---------+
[Exits: north east] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<649hp 668m 516mv road (outside) 10am (day)> where pk On the Eastern Road | The resilient stone of the Eastern Road stretches out | in both east and west directions for as far as you can +-+ +| see, eventually turning off its track out of sight. Either | || side of the road is surrounded by foresty terrain that +-@-+-+| looks fairly impassible and perhaps not worthwhile to | try to do so. To the east you see a signpost reaching | high overhead. | | ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<649hp 668m 515mv road (outside) 10am (day)> On the Eastern Road | The road travels from east to west here, spanning out for | miles in both directions. It has been constructed of a light + +-+| resilient stone that has slowly worn away from the passing | | | by of many travellers and tourists alike down this trade +-+-@-+ | road. Far off to the south you can see a river meandering | its way through a fairly barren looking forest. | | | ---------+
[Exits: east west] A tall signpost has been erected here. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<649hp 668m 514mv road (outside) 10am (day)> north On the Eastern Road o| The road takes a sudden swift turn here as it makes its || way around the outskirts of a small village, populated +-+-+| by gnomes. Its light but resilient surface has grown brittle | || and hard from the many days of beautiful sunshine that +-+-@ +| have been experienced by it. Despite this it has managed || to remain in good shape, looking more than adequate for +| its function as a trade route. | | ---------+
[Exits: north west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<649hp 668m 513mv road (outside) 10am (day)> east east Players near you: <PK> Chul Along the Eastern Road <PK> Gwevym On the Eastern Road <PK> Ocelia Along the Eastern Road <PK> Ilromie Along the Eastern Road <PK> Kali On the Eastern Road
<649hp 668m 513mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Along the Eastern Road | To the north of you a grove of trees surround the perimeters | of a dwarven kingdom. Through the trees you can make o| out the outline of a castle, small and yet clearly aristocrital || in design. The road is forced to travel south due to @-+-+| the presence of a playground of some sort to the west | || of here. It seems to be unoccupied, at least from this +-+-+ +| viewpoint. The road continues eastwards, travelling towards || the City of Timaran. +| ---------+
[Exits: east south] Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<649hp 668m 512mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Gwevym closes his eyes momentarily. Chul arrives suddenly. Along the Eastern Road | You are travelling down the Eastern Road between Seringale | and Timaran. It has been constructed of a light yet resilient o-o| mineral which has stood up to the bustle of tradefair | | passing through here. The road back to Seringale is to +-@-+-+| the west of you, while to the east of here you can see | | | a heavily guarded checkpoint. To the south you see a +-+ + | dirt path wandering off towards a small village, away | | from the busy road. +-+| ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<649hp 668m 511mv road (outside) 10am (day)> where pk
Chul walks in. The Checkpoint f| You reach the checkpoint of the Eastern Road. This point || serves as both a guardpost for keeping the road safe from o-o-o| highway robbery and also is the main means of checking | | the smoothness of trade flowing in and out of the two hometowns. +-+-@-+-+| The post is guarded day and night by heavily armored knights | | | that are ever vigilant and alert. + + | | | +-+ | ---------+
[Exits: north east south west] A Knight stands here, guarding the checkpoint. A Knight stands here, guarding the checkpoint. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in.
<649hp 668m 510mv road (outside) 10am (day)> east
Chul walks in. Players near you: <PK> Chul The Checkpoint <PK> Gwevym The Checkpoint <PK> Ocelia On the Eastern Road <PK> Ilromie On the Eastern Road <PK> Kali The Checkpoint
<649hp 668m 510mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Along the Eastern Road f | You are journeying along a well-travelled road, just east | | of a heavily guarded checkpoint. You have covered about half o-o-o | the distance between the city of Seringale and Timaran. The | | road has been constructed from a light and yet extremely +-+-@-+-+| resilient mineral that has resisted the weathering of the | | trade passing through. + | | | +-+ | ---------+
[Exits: east west] An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Gwevym walks in. Tellus the mighty gules lion walks in.
<649hp 668m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> c terrain $$ Chul walks in.
<649hp 668m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> c terrain $$ Chul yells 'Die! Kali, you sorcerous dog!' You failed to deceive Chul. Chul's pierce MUTILATES you! Chul's pierce MUTILATES you! Chul has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<566hp 628m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Chul yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Gwevym!' Your pierce mauls Chul. Chul awkwardly parries your pierce with a loud clang. Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. Chul stumbles and barely dodges your pierce. You parry Chul's pierce. Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. An illusion of a marine's smash maims Chul! An illusion of a marine's smash maims Chul! An illusion of a marine's smash MUTILATES Chul! Gwevym's wrath misses Chul. Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. Chul looks pretty hurt.
<566hp 628m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Gwevym sends Chul sprawling with a powerful shield slam. Gwevym's shield slam DISEMBOWELS Chul! Chul looks pretty hurt.
<566hp 628m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Ocelia walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. An illusion of a Paladin walks in. Chul looks pretty hurt.
<566hp 628m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> You failed to deceive Chul. Chul yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Ocelia!' Chul parries your pierce. Your pierce mauls Chul. Chul dodges your pierce. Chul's pierce misses you. Chul's pierce DISEMBOWELS you! Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. An illusion of a Paladin's smash decimates Chul! Chul deftly performs a counterbalance evasion. Gwevym's wrath DISEMBOWELS Chul! Gwevym's wrath DISMEMBERS Chul! Chul is in awful condition.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> c co
Chul dances around your pierce, easily dodging it. Chul deflects your pierce aside in an ungraceful parry. Your pierce decimates Chul! You grant your opponent mercy. Chul slumps to the ground.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Chul yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Ocelia!' Ocelia's blast of wind mauls Chul. You can't do that while resting. Chul is DEAD!!
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> A doberman walks in.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> g coins cor
Gwevym gets 'Zxel', the Demonic Staff of Skulls from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops 'Zxel', the Demonic Staff of Skulls with a shudder. Gwevym gets an iron-clad ring from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops an iron-clad ring with a shudder. Gwevym gets an Ancient Banner of Illisidar from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets the manual of Nag'Yrn from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets a fiery dragonling from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets a helm of Justice from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets some spider-climbing slippers from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops some spider-climbing slippers with a shudder. Gwevym gets some thick woolen gauntlets from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets a collar fitted with cruel spikes from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops a collar fitted with cruel spikes with a shudder. Gwevym gets the dagger of Yog-Sothoth from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets a dragonblood iron-black choker of evisceration from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops a dragonblood iron-black choker of evisceration with a shudder. Gwevym gets a pair of red-tinged dragonscale pauldrons from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets a blackened fingernail from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym gets a Burning Sheath of Acid from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops a Burning Sheath of Acid with a shudder. Gwevym gets an unmoving black cloak from the corpse of Chul. Gwevym quickly drops an unmoving black cloak with a shudder. Gwevym gets Blackthorne's point from the corpse of Chul.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> A doberman walks east. You get 23638 gold coins from the corpse of Chul. You split 23638 gold coins. Your share is 5911 gold coins.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> Ocelia looks in the corpse of Chul.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> g all cor
Lanadrah gets a pair of leopard print leggings from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a flask labelled 'Gyvel' from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a Defender potion from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a ruby-hilted dagger from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a suit of white-tinged dragonscale fullplate from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a Defender potion from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a Defender potion from the corpse of Chul. Lanadrah gets a perfect potion of recall from the corpse of Chul. A doberman walks in.
<523hp 588m 509mv road (outside) 10am (day)> You see nothing in the corpse of Chul.
Zero interaction with Gwevym
Zero interaction with Ocelia
I tried to convince Kali to simply surrender than get hunted, Kali told me he did not like being an outlaw. Clearly his feelings changed.
And Ilromie was flagged because I logged in and was hidden and saw him attack Dogran.
That's not true. You attacked me on the eastern road without warning the first time I ever saw you. I didn't do anything wrong or out of line here.
Speaking on my feelings as a player and not as Gwevym, I feel kinda bad, if I'm being honest. That's rough man. But AR is a cruel place, and you act the hard ass and play the drow rogue justice then you're going to reap the consequences.
Well I highly doubt I attacked you, because after attacking Baloth and getting my ass kicked paladins are just stupid to fight. My guess is you are confusing me with Chasmyr. But who cares right its just words on a screen.
The record shows Chul attacked Gwevym on Jan 31 in the gnome village. Also, Kali/Ilromie are obviously repeat offenders.
The one that raises the most concern for me is Ocelia. That character looks like part of lynch mob that just went with the flow. As a scholar with no precedent (unlike Gwevym) that looks really bad. Kali/Ocelia characters are otherwise only further highlighting why illusionist have a well-deserved reputation of trashy behavior. Any time you are logged on at 50 with an illusionist online you should always assume theyll try to gangbang you with full dupes
I act the hard ass? By making fun of a knight who crusades against me but won't actually carry it out? What does that have to do with any of you. AR is only a cruel place because you guys make it that way. If your justification for leading a four on one is because I attacked you on the eastern road once, which i didn't by the way because I would have gotten my ass kicked and definitely wouldn't have attack Baloth knowing how strong dwarf paladins are. The only reason I attacked Baloth was to get a feel for it since I never fought one. Unless I am confusing my paladins, CHasmyr killed you because you were afk. If Kali and Ilrmoie hate the law so much, I have yet to see Grimple or any other justice get the target of something like this. Why is Ocelia so quick to jump in? You sold my blackened fingernail to an evil warlord, im just confused why some evils get a free pass but you guys are so willing to go after me.
1/31 was the day Ilromie and Kali decided to go after me and Solmundi, I guess that burning hatred boiled over after 10 days. How did the fight go? One round of me getting my ass kicked and running away?
I think the concern for me is my suspicion that some of the people involved permagroup and that's completely against the rules. I don't plan to change a single line of paladin code or adjust any cabal entrance requirements over what looks to me like a permagrouping issue. Not going to punish everyone for the actions of a few. I think you guys just need to file reports on people who are permagroup until they magically go away.
For sure, permagrouping is not coming hot off of adventure with a bunch of in-character friends and deciding to stir the pot on an old feud when a drow leaves himself vulnerable. I feel like you are encouraging people to pursue out of character solutions to in game problems. To that end, Chul, I'd encourage you to discuss internally with Justice who else had had "this sort of treatment". Not everything makes it to the logboard and when you join a cabal, you inherit all sorts of baggage. I assure you, you aren't unique. Well maybe a little since you kept your defenses down while I was right there buffing all of us and then ran back to town after we jumped you instead of licking your wounds and playing it smart with us. I wasn't with this part because I was circling around to see where you might hide. Wish I had been there to see the end.
What you do have right, Dav, is that there are a few borderline characters in here. The neutrals (in both ethos and align) have the benefit of both sides, but in any given situation only one side can have those benefits. I can't blame them for wanting to follow in my footsteps and backing me up when I get into antics. If you disagree, make a character to change their minds, that's what makes their role so interesting. But I won't stop inciting rebellion (in this text-based game as evidenced by the above log, big brother), so they will be influenced whether you are there or not.
I beh called out desk lumubella fer deafs and dehn tell gwevym hims a soft hanned dwarf who never pick up a ammer er deh pick axe ihm no try gang bang me.
I was just joining in for the fun because Ilromie was doing it. Ilromie is my friend, and I stick up for my friends. Plus the way Chul was acting in front of the Arena wasn't something I liked.
It’s true, I’m not chaotic at heart so I don’t enjoy being wanted or outlawed but I’ll be damned if I will just stand by and watch Ilromie get wanted/hunted without helping her. Chul the character is an opportunistic aggressor who hides in town/guilds to avoid attacks. This is a great way to play but it will draw enemies. I don’t know for sure who the player is but I have nothing against you at all. This was something that developed very quickly in game through in character interactions (ie we initially just went there to watch a duel, and things escalated quickly). I haven’t met grimple before, but I do have a very bad relationship with Solmundi.
So, HELP PERMAGROUP says. "You should not share who you are playing with anyone. " That's there specifically to try to *prevent* permagroups from forming. Creating characters with basically the same familiar name over and over runs obviously against that. Its the sort of problem where it seems like the entire imm staff has fallen on their collective asses, failing to succeed at the most basic of tasks - a simple character rename - and instead takes scholars around gangbanging Justices, Legions, etc for full loots.
I liked this quote:
"Speaking on my feelings as a player and not as Gwevym, I feel kinda bad" ..
That makes sense, because this is an egregious gangbang. Its embarassing. It should be embarassing but instead its like, just post the log and be proud of what you accomplished. He writes "You should be honored to have a HGOD, because its rare". Even his own groupmates dont really feel much into it. Somebody needs to tell this guy brawl day is once a year or something
You're not wrong Dav. Just like back in the day if I was running from a fire giant that started with "Ug" or any necomancer that started with the letter "R" we know who the character is, but this more a symptom of a low Pbase than a permagrouping issue. We want to fight and go on adventures, etc instead of being lonely. When you have such a small selection of possible allies, then those are your allies(especially for lightwalkers). You build relationships IC with those people(friend, lover, mentor, enemy, etc), and when they die and want revenge you want to support them IC. It feels like permagrouping because its the same four or five people and the ONLY four or five people you have to interact with. In this specific situation, the target added fuel to the fire by acting like a jerk IC. If it were me i'd be forming an evil coalition and taking them all down, but that might not be an IC option for this character.
I only said that you attacked me to call out that you were lying. I didn't intend for it to be any kind of anything else.
I also want to say that I do not communicate with anyone outside of game, let alone about in game characters. I try to maintain mystique about who I am, but like others have said, the pbase is small and the 'guesses' are limited until you eventually figure it out. Some players are more obvious than others, I don't know where I personally fall on the spectrum. I think it is a rule of respect that you should simply not try to divine who is who. That being said, I don't believe I fall within any kind of ooc permagroup. A benefit of being a good aligned character is that you easily make IC friends. Some of those friends can even be quite active, so you see them frequently.
There are certain benefits and certain cons to playing an evil character. Same as for playing a Justice. Combine them and things get dicey. Chul is top pk rated, has been very active, has upset people because of him being an evil justice. He has behaved in such a way, both in and out of game, that has been basically a call out, saying that he's going to continue being an ass (I use this as a IC description of an evil justice, coming from a good character. It is a description that any good character would use for basically any evil justice.) and if someone wants to kill him so bad they can just break the law and do it.
Well, someone broke the law and did it.
What I am saying is that you cannot gain the benefits of being a drow shadow justice without also accepting the cons.
We all know this is essentially the first time Justice, and Chul, have ever been on the bad side of these things. Normally it's the band of misfits getting strung up on north square and full looted. Finally they got their revenge and immediately there are those who call foul. Just because you lost, doesn't mean you were cheated.
One easy way to avoid HGODs is to play a gnome. Or hell, play a Noble Scholar lol.
I'm not sure what the most fucked up part is. That you are literally proud of a 4 on 1(I'll point to where your first line says. You should feel honored!) Or that you felt the need to post it. Both are pathetic.
I posted so there is something to look at. Other than the Chul vs Wuran log, there hasn’t been anything for a week. Logs are fun to read.
No, not proud. I didn’t say “look how awesome we are”. I said he should almost feel honoured because HGODs are rare since people aren’t usually famous/infamous/strong/feared enough to warrant one. To have so many people after him, and willing to be flagged (and eventually killed/full looted for certain), means that he as the character was doing something right/noteworthy in a pk or rp aspect (or both).
Yes you did. You literally did. You posted it on the log board? How is that not "look how awesome we are" You did not say it. You acted it(actions speak louder than words)
I post logs of my deaths too. If I was posting with the intention of showing “how great” I am, why would I do that? I post logs so there is content to look at, for better or worse. I could refrain from posting anything but really straightforward 1v1 logs though if that’s what people would rather see?
You do what ever you want. Post 1v1 or 7v1. But when you preface with "you should feel honored" to get grouped on by 4 people. I'm going to call you pathetic. Everytime
Maybe I should have thought more carefully about the wording and preface.
Since this doesn’t happen very often, I also thought it might be nice to have a chance for a “debrief” to talk about how this event was the result of IC interactions with the character (nothing to do with the player). Will there be IC repercussions for those involved? Maybe? I would imagine the other justices might hold a grudge again people that would strike down one of their own in town.
Well you went about it 100% wrong. It's been said a million times OOC does not reflect IC. You cannot post something OOC and expect IC changes. So even than. You are going about this incorrectly
Feels wierd responding as a character lol. I didnt want it to seem like I played Chul with the way I am reacting. So I am posting as the character I was playing and I'm actually in the log too.
Sorry Lanadrah I was making hasty posts this morning but I should have taken more time to come up with a better post.
The main reason I posted this was to give Chul (the player) a chance to talk and to stress to him (the player) that this was all about in game interactions and relationships between the agressors and with the character (Chul). I (as a player) like Chul (the character) a lot.
The next reason was for content - something to look at. When we are sitting around wondering six months from now who the last guy to get an HGOD was, we will remember it was Chul.
If posting this makes me look bad, I will fully accept that if it also helps Chul understand this was about the character, not the player.
I'd be really happy to discuss the in-character interactions more in-game.
Dont word salad after the fact. You posted this because you were excited. You can tell by your words. You can say what ever you want later on. But you said it in the post. Your words. "You should feel honored" as davairus said. This is an embarrassment. Just own it.
OK so Chul you rolled an evil ninja justice so thats going to bring out the hate. Its a hate magnet really. You can't really complain about that. Ninja Justice that sat in town flagging everybody from hidden and only fighting people when they're weakened can't act all "surprised pikachu" about this. This was inevitable.
The issue here is not really whether they have an "RP reason", its that this isnt really ok, and we have to stand up and say it isnt. Its a toxic environment, obviously. I mean I'll just speak for myself. I wouldn't want to be associated with these guys. I wouldnt want to fight these guys. Where does that leave things?
That being said, its the paladin in that group that failed the hardest. He's behaved completely derelict of any sense of right or wrong IMO. He got attacked on the eastern road, what, a week and a half ago? That's not a reason... its an excuse. A paladin leads the group's RP. If its going wrong, he's got to say "this is wrong". Its not true that nothing can stop that group raiding a guildhall and killing a Justice. He can stop them. He can do it by just sitting on the ground. He didn't do that. Nobody else in that group has any reason to believe they are doing anything wrong, because that paladin's presence provides powerful endorsement, and silence provided his consent and approval. This paladin disclosed publically that he thinks a 4v1 gangbang and lawlessness is an appropriate response for being attacked on the eastern road. That wasnt about fighting tyranny or anything lofty like that. It was just vindictive. It was retribution for a personal attack. That's dark-knight territory. "I didnt do anything wrong..." he writes. That's what a dark-knight would say. A paladin must instead bear full responsibility for what his group did. The paladins actions needed to be guided by the higher power he serves. That goes double for the oath of protection paladin. He is not showing any remorse IC. I think it would be better paladin if he chose to actually listen to the feelings instead of ignoring them. those feelings are providing guidance
Still waiting for the in game justification for the 4 v 1 Kali.
The whole surprise pikachu ended after Ilromie was flagged 10 days ago, I made a decision not to be a dick and to be completely honest I was hoping Dogran would instigate not Ilromie. So since that fight when ever I have been on, I have been visible. This was vindictive, but for what purpose that is what I want to know.
Please Dav do not misattribute the logboard to being IC. Especially when you pick and choose which things you want to count as IC and which things you do not.
I did say that he attacked me on the eastern road, in response to him saying he’s never seen me before. I was letting him know that he was mistaken and stating a falsehood. I even clarified this in a subsequent comment. I never said that that attack justified my actions, I never used it to do that and in fact I even directly stated that I didn’t intend for it to be a justification of any actions. So you’re reaching. Also, remember that these things are being said on a logboard and are clearly and obviously OOC.
What I find interesting is that you have apparently changed your opinion on the situation. Saying before,
“As a scholar with no precedent (unlike Gwevym) that looks really bad.” – Davairus comment 1.3
This is in direct contradiction to what you are saying now. That is fine. You are allowed to change your opinion/stance whenever you want, we all are. But it exemplifies, in my opinion, the difficult nature of defining the morals and ethics of the events that transpired. Seeing as how opinions from the outside can be formed and changed and reformed over the course of 24+ hours, it is not so hard to expect that decisions made in the moment were lacking foresight, deliberation, and obviously the clarity of hindsight.
Having said all of that, I will not defend my actions anymore, but I will not “plead guilty’ either. What happened, happened. The consequences of it have begun, but have likely not ended for most of the characters involved, Gwevym included. I will face them, whatever they happen to be. If they come from Immortals/Davairus then that is a decision that they have to make.
I will say that I have not particularly enjoyed the experience (a tragically common theme among my AR experiences, and yet somehow it remains my favorite game lol, go figure) but have learned from it. I am unlikely to participate in anything similar in the future, across any character.
If the consensus is, as I believe Dav is beginning to imply in his comment, that there needs to be a rule established, then perhaps that is a good thing. Direction can often be good, if it is not too encroaching.
What consequences are you going to face? You paid off your wanted flag. You think shitty gang bang is going to change anything here? You led a 4 v 1 gang bang and expect me to say oh thank you sir may I have an another it was such an honor to be killed by you and your friends? You sure as shit seemed to enjoy posting my sword for 75k and selling and sacrificing my equipment. Give me a break
Everybody in that entire group looks pretty bad. I was merely pointing out who came out of that looking the worst, and how that is because of the effect their presence in the group actually has. Its pretty straight-forward.
The paladin helpfile says this: "Paladins are noted for their chivalry, kindness, generosity, mercy and honor." with "Paladins of any level who fail to roleplay properly may be outcasted."
The oath of protection also says this: "they must treat others fairly" with "be very mindful of your oath at all times, regardless who you are grouped with and what their agenda is. The oath always comes first.". with, again, "Failure to uphold the paladin oath will result in OUTCAST".
It looks a bit hard to argue the point after carrying out a 4v1 gangbang IMO. Anyway, we need to rely on paladins playing responsibly because its a very powerful class. Right now that's all I want to say about it.
Sorry for the delay Chul - I've been at work today and haven't had time to write out a detailed post. There has been a lot to go through here and analyze.
In-game justification from Kali's perspective: You put Ilromie on the breaking wheel, twice in one night. I tried to break her out from prison by killing the guard but that didn't work out. You killed Kali when he was outlawed (had to go through a guild guard to try to get you) but he could get over that. He can never unhear Ilromie's screams on the breaking wheel, though. Too bad we have to talk about this here on a log board instead of let this RP flesh out in game. That would have been great. It doesn't matter that this was 10 days ago. It could have been 100 days ago. Pain like that does not heal quickly.
Let us establish something that I think is being misconstrued here. This was absolutely not a rampaging death squad. This was a group of IC friends that had just finished a very long adventure, who went into Seringale for some entertainment (to watch some arena duels). While there, they witnessed Chul (who was a mutual enemy) insulting another of their IC friends (Lumubella). We absolutely did not walk into the juggernaut with any intention of killing you. I wish my buffer was longer so you could see everything. As we stood there, we deliberated over attacking you. We purposefully prepared all of our duplicates and put up all of our spells right in front of you (probably took 3 tics?). This was just a little bluster. I wanted to see if you would get a bit intimidated and call a guard or go into a guild or quaf a defender. You didn't do anything, obviously thinking that we were no threat at all and that you were perfectly safe in Seringale. That was quite perturbing and that confidence helped me make up my mind "He thinks we are too scared to attack him in town?".
Proof that this was not an indiscriminate marauding death squad: We didn't attack a single other person, nor was there any talk of attacking a single other person (e.g. Borgharv) - it simply wasn't even considered at all. This was an adventuring group that spontaneously decided to take down the evil justice that was too confident to even walk away or defend himself.
Is Chul a victim here? I suppose the character is a victim of four in game characters teaming up on him, but he is far from an innocent, defenseless babe. He is an above initiate cabal member in the strongest cabal, and ranked #2 on the ratings. This was not a brand new player that just hit 50 after 15 hours that was steamrolled by a group of seasoned veterans. Whoever you are, you're a good player and you had a chance to survive this.
Are there already in-game consequences? Yes. Ocelia, Kali, and Ilromie are all wanted. That's a death sentence. At some point, we will all be killed and full looted. You know this, we know this. We accepted this when we decided to attack the overconfident drow.
Will there be other in-game consequences? Probably - I don't know yet. That will be determined in game. Unfortunately a lot of the players reading through this thread will have developed opinions/feelings about characters based on what they have read that will bleed into in-game interactions.
Davairus you have a penchant for publicly discussing things that could really easily be handled in private. You know that I'm easy to reach, always open to talk, and happy to work things out. I've never made a character with the same surname for the purpose of 'Oh this is such a great idea, now ramod will know it's me!!', it's more for roleplay (backgrounds for all Windbreeze characters in the works, two finished already) and maybe a whiff of 'come at me' (although I seem to be pretty shitty at this game now, having the lowest rating out of everybody).
As for the comment about 'you should almost be honoured to get an HGOD, they don't happen that often' - who was the last person you remember getting an HGOD? Who was the person before that? How about before that? This doesn't happen once a day, once a week, or once a month. Something this brutal probably only happens a few times a year? The only one distinctly coming to mind for me is the one on Taere (shaman justice a long time ago). Chul (the character) pissing off enough people to the extent that they would willingly get wanted (and subsequently killed and full looted) is quite a feat and puts him in the small group of people who have ever been on the receiving end.
Long story short, there was nothing OOC or pre-meditated about this. Adventuring group turned into an HGOD for a specific character (not player) for various reasons and it ended exactly at that (there was never any risk of this being a murder squad).
These ~50 posts are a big part of the reason I posted this log. As I said, HGODs do not happen often, and I felt like this should be discussed to give people a chance to have dialogue (from both sides and from outsiders).
And what was my response to you from the time it happened until yesterday? I specifically told you I didn't want crimes to continue. And you agreed you didn't want to be outlawed. I told you to surrender to the fucking executioner because then at least you might get some items back. I explained to you what happened with ilromie, that shit isn't my fault he attacked dogran in town when I was there. I told Ilromie his actions get people killed. I thought we had an understanding, I knew you and Ilromie were going to attack me sooner or later and I was fine with it. What made 0 fucking sense was having the other two in it. What you did wasn't in defense of ilromie, you wanted to is to fuck me over and the surest way to do it was get as many people as possible and to me thats fucking low. Could I have fled and quit out yes of course I could have. But in that moment I was so disgusted with all of you that I am like fine you want your pound of flesh here you go. This whole evil justice you automatically get hate is a bunch of bullshit, because I guarantee if some loser legion logs in and starts kicking your ass you will happily sit in seringale taunting him to go after you. Which is exactly what I was doing to Lumubella, which had nothing to do with any of you. To me thats where you guys went OOC, he's a knight if he wants to exterminate me so badly he will. If I can bait him into attacking me in town thats a win for me because I have the advantage. He didn't bite, just like me fighting a geared out paladin and realizing this iteration of paladins is bullshit and not worth fighting. So yes I will stay in town looking for an advantage. When you say I pissed off a bunch people really? Isn't Lumubella capable of fighting her own battles? The shit you four pulled is fucking weak and had no justification in game.
Chul, you're right. It is interesting that it took the noble scholar to attack you in town when the Knight had a crusade. I wonder if there's something more going on there...maybe...some roleplay you were not privy to? Stop assuming OOC, getting mad and ranting on the logboard and start pursuing answers to your questions in character. I think you'll have a much better experience overall.
This is the response when you are hated this much IC. Take it as proof that you're doing a good job being an evil bastard. They took what they wanted(Your life, and gear) and now they have a death sentence of a flag hanging over their head. As a player, I feel a gut punch whenever I see someone get hosed like this. But as the character, you reaped what you sowed. You acted like a proper bastard, and talked enough shit to everyone IC to earn the righteous gangbang. Now use this fuel IC to provoke more conflict.
This is exactly where you are wrong Lumubella. Calling a Knight out for a Crusade that can patiently wait it out is a conflict between you and I. 4 v 1's are now supported because you attack someone 10 days ago once and that is enough justification to get 3 other people? Because a scholar who in my mind is here to document events doesn't like that I am talking shit to a Knight? That is enough of a reason? Kali already defended Ilromie and died for it, Ilromie died for it. Nothing has happened since those events 10 days ago. These 4 people took me out for what reason exactly? you all call me cowards for hiding in town, pretty brave thing to go 4 v 1 right? This is Permagroup ooc to the max. Why don't you guys log into your alts that are opposite align and balance the game out a bit. The best thing from this Log is Lumubella didn't participate, the only player here who actually role played. You feel guilty about this "HGOD" because you know its a bunch of crap and the 4 of you wanted to trash a character,
Chul, theres some good RP going on behind the scenes that you can't see involving this and im hoping that this event is a catalyst for more. I was happy to see so many evils at 50 on during this and was really hoping for an all out brawl but only got a 1v1 while this went down. IC I can see Ocelia supporting Ilromie in her revenge against the establishment. Not really sure what Gwevym's involvement was but looks like you attacked him. Also calling out and shit talking someones friend IC probably added fuel to the fire. I feel guilty about any "HGOD" because there is no sense of fairness in it, but thats a part of the game. I've gotten my own before, and i'm sure i'll be getting mine on Bella. I like the direction your character has gone in from my OOC perspective, stick to it. Take your lumps and get them back. Going to be a real sticky situation for all involved when the good align justices have to hunt down a bunch of goodies. I'm looking forward to it.
"I was happy to see so many evils at 50 on during this and was really hoping for an all out brawl..."
ME. TOO! When I saw Ilromie buffing everyone, I started buffing myself waiting for the inevitable meteor swarm. Difference here is I think the goodies (other than you) were already grouped and waiting to nail Chul. Then you got peeled off, Gwevym shield-slammed Chul, and by the time I was whispering to him that I could help him, he was either sleeping or already dead.
Lots of active evils and goods right now. I'm sure the big brawls are just over the horizon.
As someone who's always been pretty vocal about my dislike for drow ninja's being justice, this makes me smile.
But I feel for you Chul. No one likes getting ganked and full looted. Honestly though, you ran and hid inside your guild? Like... wtf? Obviously that isn't going to stop them, especially if they've got dupes. lol. Still you almost could've gotten away, but the summon into shield slam, into illusionsts. Ouch. No one can survive that.
Ocelia superb role play as a scholar - I don't like what he said
Ilromie superb role play as a scholar- I'm chaotic only when my friends are on
Gwevym - I don't really have a reason as to why I led the group
Kali - Still waiting on the in game interactions
Chul - whiny bitch who won't shut up about dying one time after playing a drow shadow justice that camps inside guilds all day and actively calls out people to break the law and attack him.
I get it, it sucks man. Everyone sucks. AR is a game of a bunch of dorks pretending. People are gonna do dumb shit. Literally everyone has died and been full looted. Not everyone has been HGOD'd. Could've worn it like a badge of honor. Instead you throw a fit and make yourself look silly.
Guess I can't blame you. I look dumb all the time. I'm literally a "lil one piece of ham on a sammich no condiment having ass missing the cheese and everything"
There is nothing wrong with Ilromie or anyones RP except the paladin, which is very obviously wrong, and we really don't need any more discovery, because like I told you already, its besides the point. You can't like, break the game permagrouping rules egregiously, and then issue an RP reason like its going to magically go away. Rules first, RP is then allowed within the allowed boundaries that were set by the rules. You have not filed any formal complaint about the rules and its against the rules of the logboard to post call outs, so infact, you are breaking the rules yourself posting that here. And contributing to a toxic environment yourself here
Wait let me get this straight, you want me to file a report about them permagrouping? Fuck that this is your game and your rules, if you find someone breaking it you deal with it. Thats not my problem. I don't even care about them permagrouping, I whole heartedly expected Kali and Ilromie to try and gank me which I would have been fine with because Kali already rped his stance on protecting Ilromie. My issue comes from the weak RP from the paladin and Ocelia. If you want to outcast the paladin for leading a gangbang, thats bullshit. If you have a true problem with them about the paladin rp and the permagrouping, handle that shit in game. I dont post my comments to involve you to make changes because from my experience that never happens. I post here to tell the people I think what they did was weak, no rp, and contributes to a game that isn't fun.
I am confused by this. Let me explain why. "I don't even care about them permagrouping, I whole heartedly expected Kali and Ilromie to try and gank me which I would have been fine with because Kali already rped his stance on protecting Ilromie."
Now, "Still waiting for the in game justification for the 4 v 1 Kali."
"Ocelia superb role play as a scholar - I don't like what he said
Ilromie superb role play as a scholar- I'm chaotic only when my friends are on
Gwevym - I don't really have a reason as to why I led the group
Kali - Still waiting on the in game interactions"
All I see here is more whining. It's ok though Chul I get it. All your whining makes you the diet coke of evil, just one calorie, not evil enough.
No - I want you to raise the rule you think is broken via proper channels instead of the juvenile logboard callouts. I dont care which rule you think is broken, but you should have reported it there, not here. Nothing you are doing is helpful. They are literally just calling you a whiner. If that was your goal then keep going I guess.
So I did that in game right when it happened, one immortal said meh basically, I reported something else no response. You have had ample time to respond on the log board, I have been on all day today and you didn't say a damn thing to me in game. You said the gang bang is egregious so I assume from an rp stand point they shouldn't have done it. You called out the paladin to the point where in my mind you think he should be outcasted. My question has and continues to be why they did it and I would like an answer from them about it. I don't care that you said I won't get an answer I can keep asking the question why.
I am just going to point out what was already mentioned here. All of this was initially started by me, and the shameful behaviors aside, it is hilarious. I had no idea the far-reaching effects that baiting Ilromie into attacking me would be. It was just a fun ending for me. Of course, having seen Ilromie wanted several times, I KNEW she had a grudge against Justice when I started this. When Kali showed up after I got Ilromie wanted, I totally expected them to pile on ME, not the justice. Hilarious, thanks for the entertainment keep it up!
When I said all of this was initially started by me, I meant the events surrounding Chul. You would not have picked up the grudge right in the middle of fighting me, had I not of located his stuff, and lead you into town to get wanted. All I am saying, my plan was the long game, and it worked.
All this other stuff? I can take no credit for it har!
You got waxed by a bunch of people you pissed off. Deal with it. If people randomly log at the same time and group, on a regular basis, is that against the rules?
I remember when I had Uvet(several chars really), when I logged on half the time it was multiple people coming at me... I died sometimes because of it. It sucked. When I logged in with Krite one time there was 7 goodies, who all wanted me dead of course. They were probably gear hunting, since I was able to wait out quit timer. Literally about 1.5 seconds after I was able quit, like 5 of them walked onto the Legion path. Wasn't anything personal. I pissed them off. They just wanted me dead.
But I've sure as hell never gotten on a log board and complained numbers coming at me. I'll take my lumps and move on.
Remember, you are in a cabal that ganks people when they piss off your justice rules. You don't see people whining about Justice permagroups. You're friends with the justices, of course you're grouped with them. Kali and the others are friends, of course they are grouped too. That's a no fuckin brainer.
Based on the oath of the pally at hand, maybe some recourse comes from that? Other than that I don't see a damn thing wrong with this gank.
Side note: seriously proud you didn't pull the delete card again. And that's not a backhanded compliment at all. You should stick with your chars. So thumbs up for that.
Sorry for the ramble, been enjoying several beverages on my day off. Cheers and good night.
I would like to throw something into the midst of all this. I understand that facing multiple opponents at once and losing can be irritating. It can also be irritating when things are not played out In-Character through developed RP. It should be the duty and responsibility of any individual to enjoy the character to the fullest here at Abandoned Realms, but everyone should understand that Roleplaying is enforced, and that Playerkilling is encouraged.
The more effort we put into our characters the more we all win, and the goal should be to obtain longevity. Not just on an individual basis but for the life of the community as a whole in how we interact with one another in and outside of the game. Everyone wins, and everything can be handled quite easily In-Game, for better or for worse.
When you feel emotion, you can mold and shape that into something beautiful through the character. Use the tools In-Game to place complaints, but more importantly use YOUR mind to go outside the box and stir that character into an interesting direction.
I've witnessed a lot of potential get thrown to the wayside over the years, including many of my own characters. Let's get back to enjoying what we love.
Zero interaction with Ocelia
I tried to convince Kali to simply surrender than get hunted, Kali told me he did not like being an outlaw. Clearly his feelings changed.
And Ilromie was flagged because I logged in and was hidden and saw him attack Dogran.
Just call it what it is.
Gwevym 2 , 0 , 0 . That's not true. You attacked me on the eastern road without warning the first time I ever saw you. I didn't do anything wrong or out of line here.
Chul 0 , 2 , 0 . Well I highly doubt I attacked you, because after attacking Baloth and getting my ass kicked paladins are just stupid to fight. My guess is you are confusing me with Chasmyr. But who cares right its just words on a screen. Davairus 1 , 0 , 0 . The record shows Chul attacked Gwevym on Jan 31 in the gnome village. Also, Kali/Ilromie are obviously repeat offenders.
Chul 0 , 2 , 0 . I act the hard ass? By making fun of a knight who crusades against me but won't actually carry it out? What does that have to do with any of you. AR is only a cruel place because you guys make it that way. If your justification for leading a four on one is because I attacked you on the eastern road once, which i didn't by the way because I would have gotten my ass kicked and definitely wouldn't have attack Baloth knowing how strong dwarf paladins are. The only reason I attacked Baloth was to get a feel for it since I never fought one. Unless I am confusing my paladins, CHasmyr killed you because you were afk. If Kali and Ilrmoie hate the law so much, I have yet to see Grimple or any other justice get the target of something like this. Why is Ocelia so quick to jump in? You sold my blackened fingernail to an evil warlord, im just confused why some evils get a free pass but you guys are so willing to go after me. Chul 0 , 1 , 0 . 1/31 was the day Ilromie and Kali decided to go after me and Solmundi, I guess that burning hatred boiled over after 10 days. How did the fight go? One round of me getting my ass kicked and running away? Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . I think the concern for me is my suspicion that some of the people involved permagroup and that's completely against the rules. I don't plan to change a single line of paladin code or adjust any cabal entrance requirements over what looks to me like a permagrouping issue. Not going to punish everyone for the actions of a few. I think you guys just need to file reports on people who are permagroup until they magically go away. Ilromie 2 , 0 , 0 . For sure, permagrouping is not coming hot off of adventure with a bunch of in-character friends and deciding to stir the pot on an old feud when a drow leaves himself vulnerable. I feel like you are encouraging people to pursue out of character solutions to in game problems. To that end, Chul, I'd encourage you to discuss internally with Justice who else had had "this sort of treatment". Not everything makes it to the logboard and when you join a cabal, you inherit all sorts of baggage. I assure you, you aren't unique. Well maybe a little since you kept your defenses down while I was right there buffing all of us and then ran back to town after we jumped you instead of licking your wounds and playing it smart with us. I wasn't with this part because I was circling around to see where you might hide. Wish I had been there to see the end.
Abellyith 0 , 0 , 1 . I beh called out desk lumubella fer deafs and dehn tell gwevym hims a soft hanned dwarf who never pick up a ammer er deh pick axe ihm no try gang bang me. Abellyith 0 , 0 , 1 . Also non finking design paladin dwarfen beh dat strongs finkikg dehm all die deh sames Ocelia 1 , 0 , 0 . I was just joining in for the fun because Ilromie was doing it. Ilromie is my friend, and I stick up for my friends. Plus the way Chul was acting in front of the Arena wasn't something I liked. Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . It’s true, I’m not chaotic at heart so I don’t enjoy being wanted or outlawed but I’ll be damned if I will just stand by and watch Ilromie get wanted/hunted without helping her. Chul the character is an opportunistic aggressor who hides in town/guilds to avoid attacks. This is a great way to play but it will draw enemies. I don’t know for sure who the player is but I have nothing against you at all. This was something that developed very quickly in game through in character interactions (ie we initially just went there to watch a duel, and things escalated quickly). I haven’t met grimple before, but I do have a very bad relationship with Solmundi. Davairus 2 , 0 , 0 . So, HELP PERMAGROUP says. "You should not share who you are playing with anyone. " That's there specifically to try to *prevent* permagroups from forming. Creating characters with basically the same familiar name over and over runs obviously against that. Its the sort of problem where it seems like the entire imm staff has fallen on their collective asses, failing to succeed at the most basic of tasks - a simple character rename - and instead takes scholars around gangbanging Justices, Legions, etc for full loots.
Ashlyn 
4 , 0 , 0 . You're not wrong Dav. Just like back in the day if I was running from a fire giant that started with "Ug" or any necomancer that started with the letter "R" we know who the character is, but this more a symptom of a low Pbase than a permagrouping issue. We want to fight and go on adventures, etc instead of being lonely. When you have such a small selection of possible allies, then those are your allies(especially for lightwalkers). You build relationships IC with those people(friend, lover, mentor, enemy, etc), and when they die and want revenge you want to support them IC. It feels like permagrouping because its the same four or five people and the ONLY four or five people you have to interact with. In this specific situation, the target added fuel to the fire by acting like a jerk IC. If it were me i'd be forming an evil coalition and taking them all down, but that might not be an IC option for this character. Gwevym 4 , 0 , 0 . I only said that you attacked me to call out that you were lying. I didn't intend for it to be any kind of anything else.
Ashlyn 
4 , 0 , 0 . New goal unlocked! Make a gnome so detested it gets HGOD'd by both sides.
[reply to Chul]Speaking on my feelings as a player and not as Gwevym, I feel kinda bad, if I'm being honest. That's rough man. But AR is a cruel place, and you act the hard ass and play the drow rogue justice then you're going to reap the consequences.
The one that raises the most concern for me is Ocelia. That character looks like part of lynch mob that just went with the flow. As a scholar with no precedent (unlike Gwevym) that looks really bad. Kali/Ocelia characters are otherwise only further highlighting why illusionist have a well-deserved reputation of trashy behavior. Any time you are logged on at 50 with an illusionist online you should always assume theyll try to gangbang you with full dupes
What you do have right, Dav, is that there are a few borderline characters in here. The neutrals (in both ethos and align) have the benefit of both sides, but in any given situation only one side can have those benefits. I can't blame them for wanting to follow in my footsteps and backing me up when I get into antics. If you disagree, make a character to change their minds, that's what makes their role so interesting. But I won't stop inciting rebellion (in this text-based game as evidenced by the above log, big brother), so they will be influenced whether you are there or not.
I liked this quote:
"Speaking on my feelings as a player and not as Gwevym, I feel kinda bad" ..
That makes sense, because this is an egregious gangbang. Its embarassing. It should be embarassing but instead its like, just post the log and be proud of what you accomplished. He writes "You should be honored to have a HGOD, because its rare". Even his own groupmates dont really feel much into it. Somebody needs to tell this guy brawl day is once a year or something
I also want to say that I do not communicate with anyone outside of game, let alone about in game characters. I try to maintain mystique about who I am, but like others have said, the pbase is small and the 'guesses' are limited until you eventually figure it out. Some players are more obvious than others, I don't know where I personally fall on the spectrum. I think it is a rule of respect that you should simply not try to divine who is who. That being said, I don't believe I fall within any kind of ooc permagroup. A benefit of being a good aligned character is that you easily make IC friends. Some of those friends can even be quite active, so you see them frequently.
There are certain benefits and certain cons to playing an evil character. Same as for playing a Justice. Combine them and things get dicey. Chul is top pk rated, has been very active, has upset people because of him being an evil justice. He has behaved in such a way, both in and out of game, that has been basically a call out, saying that he's going to continue being an ass (I use this as a IC description of an evil justice, coming from a good character. It is a description that any good character would use for basically any evil justice.) and if someone wants to kill him so bad they can just break the law and do it.
Well, someone broke the law and did it.
What I am saying is that you cannot gain the benefits of being a drow shadow justice without also accepting the cons.
We all know this is essentially the first time Justice, and Chul, have ever been on the bad side of these things. Normally it's the band of misfits getting strung up on north square and full looted. Finally they got their revenge and immediately there are those who call foul. Just because you lost, doesn't mean you were cheated.
One easy way to avoid HGODs is to play a gnome. Or hell, play a Noble Scholar lol.
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Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . I posted so there is something to look at. Other than the Chul vs Wuran log, there hasn’t been anything for a week. Logs are fun to read.
Lanadrah 1 , 0 , 1 . Yes you did. You literally did. You posted it on the log board? How is that not "look how awesome we are" You did not say it. You acted it(actions speak louder than words) Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . I post logs of my deaths too. If I was posting with the intention of showing “how great” I am, why would I do that? I post logs so there is content to look at, for better or worse. I could refrain from posting anything but really straightforward 1v1 logs though if that’s what people would rather see? Lanadrah 1 , 1 , 0 . You do what ever you want. Post 1v1 or 7v1. But when you preface with "you should feel honored" to get grouped on by 4 people. I'm going to call you pathetic. Everytime Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . Maybe I should have thought more carefully about the wording and preface.
Lanadrah 1 , 1 , 0 . Well you went about it 100% wrong. It's been said a million times OOC does not reflect IC. You cannot post something OOC and expect IC changes. So even than. You are going about this incorrectly Lanadrah 1 , 1 , 0 . Feels wierd responding as a character lol. I didnt want it to seem like I played Chul with the way I am reacting. So I am posting as the character I was playing and I'm actually in the log too. Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . Sorry Lanadrah I was making hasty posts this morning but I should have taken more time to come up with a better post.
Lanadrah 1 , 1 , 0 . Dont word salad after the fact. You posted this because you were excited. You can tell by your words. You can say what ever you want later on. But you said it in the post. Your words. "You should feel honored" as davairus said. This is an embarrassment. Just own it. Chul 0 , 0 , 0 . Please detail the in game interactions that would lead 4 people to attack one person, ill wait for the posts here. Ilromie 2 , 0 , 0 . Nice vulture by the way. Davairus 2 , 0 , 2 . OK so Chul you rolled an evil ninja justice so thats going to bring out the hate. Its a hate magnet really. You can't really complain about that. Ninja Justice that sat in town flagging everybody from hidden and only fighting people when they're weakened can't act all "surprised pikachu" about this. This was inevitable.
Chul 0 , 1 , 3 . Still waiting for the in game justification for the 4 v 1 Kali. Davairus 0 , 1 , 0 . you wont get more than what I said. Its completely on the paladin Gwevym 4 , 0 , 0 . Please Dav do not misattribute the logboard to being IC. Especially when you pick and choose which things you want to count as IC and which things you do not.
Chul 0 , 1 , 1 . What consequences are you going to face? You paid off your wanted flag. You think shitty gang bang is going to change anything here? You led a 4 v 1 gang bang and expect me to say oh thank you sir may I have an another it was such an honor to be killed by you and your friends? You sure as shit seemed to enjoy posting my sword for 75k and selling and sacrificing my equipment. Give me a break Chul 0 , 1 , 1 . Still waiting Kali for the ingame justification Lumubella 1 , 0 , 0 . Less whining, more in game revenge please. Davairus 0 , 1 , 0 . Everybody in that entire group looks pretty bad. I was merely pointing out who came out of that looking the worst, and how that is because of the effect their presence in the group actually has. Its pretty straight-forward.
Kali 3 , 0 , 0 . Sorry for the delay Chul - I've been at work today and haven't had time to write out a detailed post. There has been a lot to go through here and analyze.
Chul 0 , 0 , 0 . And what was my response to you from the time it happened until yesterday? I specifically told you I didn't want crimes to continue. And you agreed you didn't want to be outlawed. I told you to surrender to the fucking executioner because then at least you might get some items back. I explained to you what happened with ilromie, that shit isn't my fault he attacked dogran in town when I was there. I told Ilromie his actions get people killed. I thought we had an understanding, I knew you and Ilromie were going to attack me sooner or later and I was fine with it. What made 0 fucking sense was having the other two in it. What you did wasn't in defense of ilromie, you wanted to is to fuck me over and the surest way to do it was get as many people as possible and to me thats fucking low. Could I have fled and quit out yes of course I could have. But in that moment I was so disgusted with all of you that I am like fine you want your pound of flesh here you go. This whole evil justice you automatically get hate is a bunch of bullshit, because I guarantee if some loser legion logs in and starts kicking your ass you will happily sit in seringale taunting him to go after you. Which is exactly what I was doing to Lumubella, which had nothing to do with any of you. To me thats where you guys went OOC, he's a knight if he wants to exterminate me so badly he will. If I can bait him into attacking me in town thats a win for me because I have the advantage. He didn't bite, just like me fighting a geared out paladin and realizing this iteration of paladins is bullshit and not worth fighting. So yes I will stay in town looking for an advantage. When you say I pissed off a bunch people really? Isn't Lumubella capable of fighting her own battles? The shit you four pulled is fucking weak and had no justification in game. (removed) 0 , 0 , 0 . THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED. Ashlyn 
0 , 0 , 0 . To be fair, he was most likely high when he rolled it. Chul 0 , 2 , 0 . And its not a death sentence, just do what glorbag did, duel thoom to the death, lose on purpose and keep all your eq. Fucking sad Ilromie 1 , 0 , 0 . Chul, you're right. It is interesting that it took the noble scholar to attack you in town when the Knight had a crusade. I wonder if there's something more going on there...maybe...some roleplay you were not privy to? Stop assuming OOC, getting mad and ranting on the logboard and start pursuing answers to your questions in character. I think you'll have a much better experience overall.
[reply to Lanadrah]No, not proud. I didn’t say “look how awesome we are”. I said he should almost feel honoured because HGODs are rare since people aren’t usually famous/infamous/strong/feared enough to warrant one. To have so many people after him, and willing to be flagged (and eventually killed/full looted for certain), means that he as the character was doing something right/noteworthy in a pk or rp aspect (or both).
Since this doesn’t happen very often, I also thought it might be nice to have a chance for a “debrief” to talk about how this event was the result of IC interactions with the character (nothing to do with the player). Will there be IC repercussions for those involved? Maybe? I would imagine the other justices might hold a grudge again people that would strike down one of their own in town.
The main reason I posted this was to give Chul (the player) a chance to talk and to stress to him (the player) that this was all about in game interactions and relationships between the agressors and with the character (Chul). I (as a player) like Chul (the character) a lot.
The next reason was for content - something to look at. When we are sitting around wondering six months from now who the last guy to get an HGOD was, we will remember it was Chul.
If posting this makes me look bad, I will fully accept that if it also helps Chul understand this was about the character, not the player.
I'd be really happy to discuss the in-character interactions more in-game.
The issue here is not really whether they have an "RP reason", its that this isnt really ok, and we have to stand up and say it isnt. Its a toxic environment, obviously. I mean I'll just speak for myself. I wouldn't want to be associated with these guys. I wouldnt want to fight these guys. Where does that leave things?
That being said, its the paladin in that group that failed the hardest. He's behaved completely derelict of any sense of right or wrong IMO. He got attacked on the eastern road, what, a week and a half ago? That's not a reason... its an excuse. A paladin leads the group's RP. If its going wrong, he's got to say "this is wrong". Its not true that nothing can stop that group raiding a guildhall and killing a Justice. He can stop them. He can do it by just sitting on the ground. He didn't do that. Nobody else in that group has any reason to believe they are doing anything wrong, because that paladin's presence provides powerful endorsement, and silence provided his consent and approval. This paladin disclosed publically that he thinks a 4v1 gangbang and lawlessness is an appropriate response for being attacked on the eastern road. That wasnt about fighting tyranny or anything lofty like that. It was just vindictive. It was retribution for a personal attack. That's dark-knight territory. "I didnt do anything wrong..." he writes. That's what a dark-knight would say. A paladin must instead bear full responsibility for what his group did. The paladins actions needed to be guided by the higher power he serves. That goes double for the oath of protection paladin. He is not showing any remorse IC. I think it would be better paladin if he chose to actually listen to the feelings instead of ignoring them. those feelings are providing guidance
The whole surprise pikachu ended after Ilromie was flagged 10 days ago, I made a decision not to be a dick and to be completely honest I was hoping Dogran would instigate not Ilromie. So since that fight when ever I have been on, I have been visible. This was vindictive, but for what purpose that is what I want to know.
I did say that he attacked me on the eastern road, in response to him saying he’s never seen me before. I was letting him know that he was mistaken and stating a falsehood. I even clarified this in a subsequent comment. I never said that that attack justified my actions, I never used it to do that and in fact I even directly stated that I didn’t intend for it to be a justification of any actions. So you’re reaching. Also, remember that these things are being said on a logboard and are clearly and obviously OOC.
What I find interesting is that you have apparently changed your opinion on the situation. Saying before,
“As a scholar with no precedent (unlike Gwevym) that looks really bad.” – Davairus comment 1.3
This is in direct contradiction to what you are saying now. That is fine. You are allowed to change your opinion/stance whenever you want, we all are. But it exemplifies, in my opinion, the difficult nature of defining the morals and ethics of the events that transpired. Seeing as how opinions from the outside can be formed and changed and reformed over the course of 24+ hours, it is not so hard to expect that decisions made in the moment were lacking foresight, deliberation, and obviously the clarity of hindsight.
Having said all of that, I will not defend my actions anymore, but I will not “plead guilty’ either. What happened, happened. The consequences of it have begun, but have likely not ended for most of the characters involved, Gwevym included. I will face them, whatever they happen to be. If they come from Immortals/Davairus then that is a decision that they have to make.
I will say that I have not particularly enjoyed the experience (a tragically common theme among my AR experiences, and yet somehow it remains my favorite game lol, go figure) but have learned from it. I am unlikely to participate in anything similar in the future, across any character.
If the consensus is, as I believe Dav is beginning to imply in his comment, that there needs to be a rule established, then perhaps that is a good thing. Direction can often be good, if it is not too encroaching.
The paladin helpfile says this: "Paladins are noted for their chivalry, kindness, generosity, mercy and honor." with "Paladins of any level who fail to roleplay properly may be outcasted."
The oath of protection also says this: "they must treat others fairly" with "be very mindful of your oath at all times, regardless who you are grouped with and what their agenda is. The oath always comes first.". with, again, "Failure to uphold the paladin oath will result in OUTCAST".
It looks a bit hard to argue the point after carrying out a 4v1 gangbang IMO. Anyway, we need to rely on paladins playing responsibly because its a very powerful class. Right now that's all I want to say about it.
In-game justification from Kali's perspective: You put Ilromie on the breaking wheel, twice in one night. I tried to break her out from prison by killing the guard but that didn't work out. You killed Kali when he was outlawed (had to go through a guild guard to try to get you) but he could get over that. He can never unhear Ilromie's screams on the breaking wheel, though. Too bad we have to talk about this here on a log board instead of let this RP flesh out in game. That would have been great. It doesn't matter that this was 10 days ago. It could have been 100 days ago. Pain like that does not heal quickly.
Let us establish something that I think is being misconstrued here. This was absolutely not a rampaging death squad. This was a group of IC friends that had just finished a very long adventure, who went into Seringale for some entertainment (to watch some arena duels). While there, they witnessed Chul (who was a mutual enemy) insulting another of their IC friends (Lumubella). We absolutely did not walk into the juggernaut with any intention of killing you. I wish my buffer was longer so you could see everything. As we stood there, we deliberated over attacking you. We purposefully prepared all of our duplicates and put up all of our spells right in front of you (probably took 3 tics?). This was just a little bluster. I wanted to see if you would get a bit intimidated and call a guard or go into a guild or quaf a defender. You didn't do anything, obviously thinking that we were no threat at all and that you were perfectly safe in Seringale. That was quite perturbing and that confidence helped me make up my mind "He thinks we are too scared to attack him in town?".
Proof that this was not an indiscriminate marauding death squad: We didn't attack a single other person, nor was there any talk of attacking a single other person (e.g. Borgharv) - it simply wasn't even considered at all. This was an adventuring group that spontaneously decided to take down the evil justice that was too confident to even walk away or defend himself.
Is Chul a victim here? I suppose the character is a victim of four in game characters teaming up on him, but he is far from an innocent, defenseless babe. He is an above initiate cabal member in the strongest cabal, and ranked #2 on the ratings. This was not a brand new player that just hit 50 after 15 hours that was steamrolled by a group of seasoned veterans. Whoever you are, you're a good player and you had a chance to survive this.
Are there already in-game consequences? Yes. Ocelia, Kali, and Ilromie are all wanted. That's a death sentence. At some point, we will all be killed and full looted. You know this, we know this. We accepted this when we decided to attack the overconfident drow.
Will there be other in-game consequences? Probably - I don't know yet. That will be determined in game. Unfortunately a lot of the players reading through this thread will have developed opinions/feelings about characters based on what they have read that will bleed into in-game interactions.
Davairus you have a penchant for publicly discussing things that could really easily be handled in private. You know that I'm easy to reach, always open to talk, and happy to work things out. I've never made a character with the same surname for the purpose of 'Oh this is such a great idea, now ramod will know it's me!!', it's more for roleplay (backgrounds for all Windbreeze characters in the works, two finished already) and maybe a whiff of 'come at me' (although I seem to be pretty shitty at this game now, having the lowest rating out of everybody).
As for the comment about 'you should almost be honoured to get an HGOD, they don't happen that often' - who was the last person you remember getting an HGOD? Who was the person before that? How about before that? This doesn't happen once a day, once a week, or once a month. Something this brutal probably only happens a few times a year? The only one distinctly coming to mind for me is the one on Taere (shaman justice a long time ago). Chul (the character) pissing off enough people to the extent that they would willingly get wanted (and subsequently killed and full looted) is quite a feat and puts him in the small group of people who have ever been on the receiving end.
Long story short, there was nothing OOC or pre-meditated about this. Adventuring group turned into an HGOD for a specific character (not player) for various reasons and it ended exactly at that (there was never any risk of this being a murder squad).
These ~50 posts are a big part of the reason I posted this log. As I said, HGODs do not happen often, and I felt like this should be discussed to give people a chance to have dialogue (from both sides and from outsiders).
Chul 0 , 0 , 0 . This is exactly where you are wrong Lumubella. Calling a Knight out for a Crusade that can patiently wait it out is a conflict between you and I. 4 v 1's are now supported because you attack someone 10 days ago once and that is enough justification to get 3 other people? Because a scholar who in my mind is here to document events doesn't like that I am talking shit to a Knight? That is enough of a reason? Kali already defended Ilromie and died for it, Ilromie died for it. Nothing has happened since those events 10 days ago. These 4 people took me out for what reason exactly? you all call me cowards for hiding in town, pretty brave thing to go 4 v 1 right? This is Permagroup ooc to the max. Why don't you guys log into your alts that are opposite align and balance the game out a bit. The best thing from this Log is Lumubella didn't participate, the only player here who actually role played. You feel guilty about this "HGOD" because you know its a bunch of crap and the 4 of you wanted to trash a character, Lumubella 1 , 0 , 0 . Chul, theres some good RP going on behind the scenes that you can't see involving this and im hoping that this event is a catalyst for more. I was happy to see so many evils at 50 on during this and was really hoping for an all out brawl but only got a 1v1 while this went down. IC I can see Ocelia supporting Ilromie in her revenge against the establishment. Not really sure what Gwevym's involvement was but looks like you attacked him. Also calling out and shit talking someones friend IC probably added fuel to the fire. I feel guilty about any "HGOD" because there is no sense of fairness in it, but thats a part of the game. I've gotten my own before, and i'm sure i'll be getting mine on Bella. I like the direction your character has gone in from my OOC perspective, stick to it. Take your lumps and get them back. Going to be a real sticky situation for all involved when the good align justices have to hunt down a bunch of goodies. I'm looking forward to it. Borgharv 3 , 0 , 0 . "I was happy to see so many evils at 50 on during this and was really hoping for an all out brawl..."
[reply to Lumubella]ME. TOO! When I saw Ilromie buffing everyone, I started buffing myself waiting for the inevitable meteor swarm. Difference here is I think the goodies (other than you) were already grouped and waiting to nail Chul. Then you got peeled off, Gwevym shield-slammed Chul, and by the time I was whispering to him that I could help him, he was either sleeping or already dead.
Lots of active evils and goods right now. I'm sure the big brawls are just over the horizon.
>Ocelia's blast of wind mauls Chul.
>Chul is DEAD!!
Chul got farted to death.
Nadrin 0 , 0 , 0 . Wow, I missed that, I love it!
[reply to Xerties]But I feel for you Chul. No one likes getting ganked and full looted. Honestly though, you ran and hid inside your guild? Like... wtf? Obviously that isn't going to stop them, especially if they've got dupes. lol. Still you almost could've gotten away, but the summon into shield slam, into illusionsts. Ouch. No one can survive that.
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Ilromie superb role play as a scholar- I'm chaotic only when my friends are on
Gwevym - I don't really have a reason as to why I led the group
Kali - Still waiting on the in game interactions
hamsandwich 
5 , 0 , 0 . Chul - whiny bitch who won't shut up about dying one time after playing a drow shadow justice that camps inside guilds all day and actively calls out people to break the law and attack him.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 1 . You are tunnel visioning.
Chul 0 , 1 , 1 . Wait let me get this straight, you want me to file a report about them permagrouping? Fuck that this is your game and your rules, if you find someone breaking it you deal with it. Thats not my problem. I don't even care about them permagrouping, I whole heartedly expected Kali and Ilromie to try and gank me which I would have been fine with because Kali already rped his stance on protecting Ilromie. My issue comes from the weak RP from the paladin and Ocelia. If you want to outcast the paladin for leading a gangbang, thats bullshit. If you have a true problem with them about the paladin rp and the permagrouping, handle that shit in game. I dont post my comments to involve you to make changes because from my experience that never happens. I post here to tell the people I think what they did was weak, no rp, and contributes to a game that isn't fun. Dogran 
1 , 0 , 0 . I am confused by this. Let me explain why. "I don't even care about them permagrouping, I whole heartedly expected Kali and Ilromie to try and gank me which I would have been fine with because Kali already rped his stance on protecting Ilromie."
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . No - I want you to raise the rule you think is broken via proper channels instead of the juvenile logboard callouts. I dont care which rule you think is broken, but you should have reported it there, not here. Nothing you are doing is helpful. They are literally just calling you a whiner. If that was your goal then keep going I guess. Chul 0 , 0 , 1 . So I did that in game right when it happened, one immortal said meh basically, I reported something else no response. You have had ample time to respond on the log board, I have been on all day today and you didn't say a damn thing to me in game. You said the gang bang is egregious so I assume from an rp stand point they shouldn't have done it. You called out the paladin to the point where in my mind you think he should be outcasted. My question has and continues to be why they did it and I would like an answer from them about it. I don't care that you said I won't get an answer I can keep asking the question why. Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . Chul please scroll up and read my really long post. Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . thanks ill find it later and follow up with you there
[reply to Chul]I get it, it sucks man. Everyone sucks. AR is a game of a bunch of dorks pretending. People are gonna do dumb shit. Literally everyone has died and been full looted. Not everyone has been HGOD'd. Could've worn it like a badge of honor. Instead you throw a fit and make yourself look silly.
Guess I can't blame you. I look dumb all the time. I'm literally a "lil one piece of ham on a sammich no condiment having ass missing the cheese and everything"
There is nothing wrong with Ilromie or anyones RP except the paladin, which is very obviously wrong, and we really don't need any more discovery, because like I told you already, its besides the point. You can't like, break the game permagrouping rules egregiously, and then issue an RP reason like its going to magically go away. Rules first, RP is then allowed within the allowed boundaries that were set by the rules. You have not filed any formal complaint about the rules and its against the rules of the logboard to post call outs, so infact, you are breaking the rules yourself posting that here. And contributing to a toxic environment yourself here
TLDR: NO REPORT, NO ACTION
Now, "Still waiting for the in game justification for the 4 v 1 Kali."
"Ocelia superb role play as a scholar - I don't like what he said
Ilromie superb role play as a scholar- I'm chaotic only when my friends are on
Gwevym - I don't really have a reason as to why I led the group
Kali - Still waiting on the in game interactions"
All I see here is more whining. It's ok though Chul I get it. All your whining makes you the diet coke of evil, just one calorie, not evil enough.
Ilromie 0 , 0 , 0 . Not really. This is about a grudge that goes back at least 6 months. Sorry this one isn't about you, Doggo. Dogran 
0 , 0 , 1 . When I said all of this was initially started by me, I meant the events surrounding Chul. You would not have picked up the grudge right in the middle of fighting me, had I not of located his stuff, and lead you into town to get wanted. All I am saying, my plan was the long game, and it worked.
[reply to Dogran]All this other stuff? I can take no credit for it har!
I remember when I had Uvet(several chars really), when I logged on half the time it was multiple people coming at me... I died sometimes because of it. It sucked. When I logged in with Krite one time there was 7 goodies, who all wanted me dead of course. They were probably gear hunting, since I was able to wait out quit timer. Literally about 1.5 seconds after I was able quit, like 5 of them walked onto the Legion path. Wasn't anything personal. I pissed them off. They just wanted me dead.
But I've sure as hell never gotten on a log board and complained numbers coming at me. I'll take my lumps and move on.
Remember, you are in a cabal that ganks people when they piss off your justice rules. You don't see people whining about Justice permagroups. You're friends with the justices, of course you're grouped with them. Kali and the others are friends, of course they are grouped too. That's a no fuckin brainer.
Based on the oath of the pally at hand, maybe some recourse comes from that? Other than that I don't see a damn thing wrong with this gank.
Side note: seriously proud you didn't pull the delete card again. And that's not a backhanded compliment at all. You should stick with your chars. So thumbs up for that.
Sorry for the ramble, been enjoying several beverages on my day off. Cheers and good night.
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The more effort we put into our characters the more we all win, and the goal should be to obtain longevity. Not just on an individual basis but for the life of the community as a whole in how we interact with one another in and outside of the game. Everyone wins, and everything can be handled quite easily In-Game, for better or for worse.
When you feel emotion, you can mold and shape that into something beautiful through the character. Use the tools In-Game to place complaints, but more importantly use YOUR mind to go outside the box and stir that character into an interesting direction.
I've witnessed a lot of potential get thrown to the wayside over the years, including many of my own characters. Let's get back to enjoying what we love.
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Problem solved.
hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 0 . Run things like a US middle school. Bullies and the bullied all denied. AR is zero tolerance.
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