You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Mohglin!' You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. You awkwardly parry Mohglin's slash with a loud clang. Mohglin's slash maims you! You deflect Mohglin's slash aside in an ungraceful parry. Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! A major globe of invulnerability encloses you in a shimmering sphere. You surround yourself in a protective shield of magic. Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin has a few scratches.
<729hp 802m 360mv> You fail to deteriorate Mohglin. Mohglin has a few scratches.
<729hp 782m 360mv> You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's slash maims you! Mohglin's shocking bite scratches you. Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<692hp 782m 360mv> Mohglin hammers your shield repeatedly with his weapons. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn leaks pus as it absorbs Mohglin's barrage attempt. Your oozing pus injures Mohglin. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<692hp 782m 360mv> con moh Your lore of Serin people and equipment is insufficient for Mohglin. [AFF] ** : Mohglin's afflictive save is low. [MEN] * : Mohglin's mental save is very low. <<<<ooooo no mental saves [MAL] ***** : Mohglin's maledictive save is very high. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<692hp 782m 360mv> Mohglin's slash misses you. Mohglin deflects your flame aside in an ungraceful parry. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<692hp 782m 360mv> disp Mohglin Spell failed. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<692hp 767m 360mv> Mohglin hammers your shield repeatedly with his weapons. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn leaks pus as it absorbs Mohglin's barrage attempt. Your oozing pus decimates Mohglin! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<692hp 767m 360mv> Mohglin's slash MUTILATES you! Mohglin's shocking bite scratches you. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's slash maims you! Mohglin parries your flame. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<617hp 767m 360mv> com hys You lost your concentration. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<630hp 784m 399mv> flee
You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's drowning maims you! Your shield jolts under Mohglin's slash, but holds. Your flame DISEMBOWELS Mohglin! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<594hp 784m 399mv> Kali walks in.<<<<<Total moment of panic here... Kali walks in. Kali walks in. An illusion of a jotun Paladin walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. An illusion of a marine walks in. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<594hp 784m 399mv> An illusion of a marine walks west. An illusion of a marine walks west. An illusion of a jotun Paladin walks west. Kali walks west. Kali walks west. Kali walks west. Mohglin hammers your shield repeatedly with his weapons. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn leaks pus as it absorbs Mohglin's barrage attempt. Your oozing pus maims Mohglin! Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<594hp 784m 399mv> You flee from combat! Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 398mv> e e Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 397mv> The Dragon Statue
[Exits: south west] A sign is here, showing what services are offered. There is a cart here, covered by a colorful cloth. An earthen fur coat is here. The cartmaster is sitting on a trade caravan. This young girl looks happy to guide travelers along the roads.
<594hp 784m 396mv> s e On the Eastern Road
[Exits: north east] A chieftain's sceptre is here.
<594hp 784m 395mv> e On the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 394mv> where On the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west] A tall signpost has been erected here.
<594hp 784m 393mv> e e Players near you in Eastern Road: <PK> Dogran On the Eastern Road <PK> Mohglin The Crossroads
<594hp 784m 393mv> On the Eastern Road
[Exits: north west]
<594hp 784m 392mv> where Alas, you cannot go that way.
<594hp 784m 392mv> Players near you in Eastern Road: <PK> Dogran On the Eastern Road <PK> Mohglin Along the Eastern Road
<594hp 784m 392mv> n Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east south]
<594hp 784m 391mv> e e Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 390mv> The Checkpoint
[Exits: north east south west] A knight stands here, guarding the checkpoint. A knight stands here, guarding the checkpoint.
<594hp 784m 389mv> where Players near you in Eastern Road: <PK> Dogran The Checkpoint <PK> Mohglin The Dragon Statue
<594hp 784m 389mv> e Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 388mv> e e Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 387mv> e Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 386mv> Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 385mv> e e Along the Eastern Road
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 384mv> On the Outskirts of Timaran
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 383mv> e e West Gate of Timaran
[Exits: east west up] A giant gate guard stands here, checking people who walk by. A giant gate guard stands here, checking people who walk by.
<594hp 784m 382mv> e Western Main Street
[Exits: east west] A short stump-like thief sneaks around here. A member of the Timaran city day watch keeps an eye out. A large, filthy looking rat scurries around.
<594hp 784m 381mv> where Western Square of Timaran
[Exits: north east south west] A key almost completely covered in quicksand is here. A small stone key lies here. A number of wooden benches are arranged around the fountain. A fountain stands here, lovingly carved into a dolphin shape. A member of the Timaran city day watch keeps an eye out.
<594hp 784m 380mv> e Players near you in Timaran: <PK> Dogran Western Square of Timaran
<594hp 784m 380mv> e Western Main Street
[Exits: north east south west]
<594hp 784m 379mv> Western Main Street
[Exits: east south west]
<594hp 784m 378mv> e e Western Main Street
[Exits: north east west]
<594hp 784m 377mv> Western Main Street
[Exits: east west] A member of the Timaran city day watch keeps an eye out.
<594hp 784m 376mv> e City Centre of Timaran
[Exits: north east south west] A number of wooden benches are arranged around the fountain. A beautiful marble fountain stands in the centre of the square. The Herald Bulletin Board gleams majestically in the middle of the square. A member of the Timaran city day watch keeps an eye out. A feral cat wanders around, looking for prey or scraps. Selena the Mayor of Timaran is here, smiling happily to all. The Town Crier stands here, yelling the daily news.
<594hp 784m 375mv> n n Travellers Way
[Exits: north east south west] A citizen of Timaran goes about his business here.
<594hp 784m 374mv> where Travellers Way
[Exits: north east south]
<594hp 784m 373mv> n Players near you in Timaran: <PK> Dogran Travellers Way <PK> Mohglin Western Main Street
<594hp 784m 373mv> n Travellers Way
[Exits: north east south west]
<594hp 784m 372mv> n Travellers Way, near the North Gate
[Exits: north east south] Rimath the trader auctions 'Place yer bids! a flaming flail of fury is being auctioned for 10000 gold!'
<594hp 784m 371mv> where North Gate of Timaran
[Exits: north south up] A giant gate guard stands here, checking people who walk by. A giant gate guard stands here, checking people who walk by. The caravan attendant is here, with caravans for hire.
<594hp 784m 370mv> n Players near you in Timaran: <PK> Dogran North Gate of Timaran <PK> Mohglin Western Main Street
<594hp 784m 370mv> A rock outcropping
[Exits: south west down] (White Aura) Dinswel the Ranger stands here. Dinswel sighs. Dinswel says 'I must find the crystal staff in order to prove my worthiness to marry Laudwin.'
<594hp 784m 368mv> w w A Small Clearing
[Exits: east]
<594hp 784m 366mv> w A Beautiful Clearing
[Exits: east west] A small fox is here.
<594hp 784m 365mv> where A Large Cave
[Exits: north east] A long-extinguished firepit is here, with something glittering in it. A small orange fox is here.
<594hp 784m 364mv> w Players near you in Unsiliel Wood: <PK> Dogran A Large Cave
<594hp 784m 364mv> n Alas, you cannot go that way.
<594hp 784m 364mv> n A Wide Path
[Exits: north south west] A brown nkni is here, wandering lazily about. A brown nkni is here, wandering lazily about.
<594hp 784m 363mv> n A Wide Path
[Exits: north south] A brown nkni is here, wandering lazily about.
<594hp 784m 362mv> where A Moss Covered Path
[Exits: east south west]
<594hp 784m 361mv> w w Players near you in Unsiliel Wood: <PK> Dogran A Moss Covered Path
<594hp 784m 361mv> A Moss Covered Path
[Exits: east west] A brown nkni is here, wandering lazily about. A small orange fox is here.
<594hp 784m 360mv> where A Moss Covered Path
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 359mv> w Players near you in Unsiliel Wood: <PK> Dogran A Moss Covered Path <PK> Mohglin A Small Clearing
<594hp 784m 359mv> s A Moss Covered Path
[Exits: north east]
<594hp 784m 358mv> w w You have found a secret path through the woods. You manage to squeeze your way southward. Among Trees
[Exits: north west]
<594hp 784m 357mv> where You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: east west]
<594hp 784m 356mv> You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: east south]
<594hp 784m 355mv> Players near you in Unsiliel Wood: <PK> Dogran Among Trees <PK> Mohglin A Wide Path
<608hp 802m 399mv> s w You manage to squeeze your way southward. Among Trees
[Exits: north west]
<608hp 802m 398mv> w You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: east west]
<608hp 802m 397mv> where You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: north east] A huge black and white mottled wolf is here. A huge black and white mottled wolf is here.
<608hp 802m 396mv> Players near you in Unsiliel Wood: <PK> Dogran Among Trees <PK> Mohglin A Moss Covered Path
<608hp 802m 396mv> n You manage to squeeze your way northward. Among Trees
[Exits: south west]
<608hp 802m 395mv> w w You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: east west]
<608hp 802m 394mv> You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: east west]
<608hp 802m 393mv> w You manage to squeeze your way westward. Among Trees
[Exits: east down] An undead butterfly is here, fluttering blindly about.
<608hp 802m 392mv> d s A Stone Corridor
[Exits: south]
<608hp 802m 391mv> s A Stone Corridor
[Exits: north (slab east) south]
<608hp 802m 390mv> where A Stone Corridor
[Exits: north east]
<608hp 802m 389mv> e e Players near you in Unsiliel Wood: <PK> Dogran A Stone Corridor <PK> Mohglin Among Trees
<608hp 802m 389mv> The Edge of a Cave
[Exits: east west]
<608hp 802m 388mv> e In Water
[Exits: east south west]
<608hp 802m 387mv> e In Water
[Exits: east west]
<608hp 802m 385mv> e In Water
[Exits: south west]
<608hp 802m 383mv> s u Alas, you cannot go that way.
<608hp 802m 383mv> In Water
[Exits: north up]
<608hp 802m 381mv> where Lake in the Forest
[Exits: south down]
<608hp 802m 379mv> s Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Lake in the Forest
<608hp 802m 379mv> Diabolical Clearing
[Exits: north south west] A tattered piece of paper has been dropped on the ground. A skinny mouse scampers about, looking for something to eat. A skinny mouse walks north.
<608hp 802m 378mv> w Among ancient oak trees
[Exits: north east south west] (White Aura) The Lord of Dark Oak is here. A tree-like creature with large fangs looms your way.
<608hp 802m 377mv> where owl a massive owl The western edge of the forest
<608hp 802m 377mv> n The eastern edge of the forest
[Exits: north south west] A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal. A tree-like creature with large fangs looms your way.
<608hp 802m 376mv> w A narrow trail
[Exits: north east south west] A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal. A druid is here, chanting in a mysterious language.
<608hp 802m 375mv> phgr owl You consume a massive owl with the phantoms of the underworld. Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl. The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms. It looks pretty empty. Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl. The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms. There's a LOT of room in the shrunken head of a shadowspawn. Your phantom grasp grazes a massive owl. The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms. There's a LOT of room in the shrunken head of a shadowspawn. A massive owl has some small wounds and bruises.
<608hp 782m 375mv> e n n
You block a massive owl's attack with your shield. Your flame MASSACRES a massive owl! A massive owl has quite a few wounds.
<608hp 782m 375mv> where No way! You are still fighting! A massive owl has quite a few wounds.
<608hp 782m 375mv> No way! You are still fighting! A massive owl has quite a few wounds.
<608hp 782m 375mv> No way! You are still fighting! A massive owl has quite a few wounds.
<608hp 782m 375mv> You break your objective tracking. Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran A narrow trail <PK> Mohglin Dense undergrowth A massive owl has quite a few wounds.
<608hp 782m 375mv> phgr You consume a massive owl with the phantoms of the underworld. Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl. The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms. There's a little room for more pus. Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl. The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms. There's a little room for more pus. A massive owl has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<608hp 762m 375mv> You grip your shield firmly, staving off a massive owl's bite. Your flame MANGLES a massive owl! A massive owl is in awful condition.
<608hp 762m 375mv> flee You flee from combat! A narrow trail
[Exits: north east south]
<608hp 762m 374mv> n A large intersection in the trail
[Exits: north east south west] A skinny mouse scampers about, looking for something to eat.
<608hp 762m 373mv> n n A narrow trail
[Exits: north east south]
<608hp 762m 372mv> where Surrounded by oak trees
[Exits: north east south] A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal.
<608hp 762m 371mv> cucr Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Surrounded by oak trees <PK> Mohglin A very muddy path
<608hp 762m 371mv> You feel a lot better!
<665hp 737m 371mv> where n w w cucr where Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Surrounded by oak trees <PK> Mohglin Dense undergrowth
<682hp 776m 399mv> Surrounded by oak trees
[Exits: north east south west]
<682hp 776m 398mv> Surrounded by oak trees
[Exits: north east west] A druid is here, chanting in a mysterious language.
<682hp 776m 397mv> Surrounded by oak trees
[Exits: north east west] A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal.
<682hp 776m 396mv> You feel a lot better!
<739hp 751m 396mv> where Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Surrounded by oak trees <PK> Mohglin A narrow trail
<739hp 751m 396mv> Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Surrounded by oak trees <PK> Mohglin A narrow trail
<739hp 751m 396mv> where Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Surrounded by oak trees <PK> Mohglin A narrow trail
<739hp 751m 396mv> w w Surrounded by oak trees
[Exits: north east]
<739hp 751m 395mv> Alas, you cannot go that way.
<739hp 751m 395mv> where Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Surrounded by oak trees <PK> Mohglin A large intersection in the trail
<739hp 751m 395mv> n The northern edge of the forest
[Exits: north east south west]
<739hp 751m 394mv> w w The northern edge of the forest
[Exits: east west] A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal. A druid is here, chanting in a mysterious language.
<739hp 751m 393mv> where Before a rustic cottage
[Exits: north east south west]
<739hp 751m 392mv> Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran Before a rustic cottage <PK> Mohglin Surrounded by oak trees
<739hp 751m 392mv> scan You scan all around. You scan north. *** Range 1 (north) *** An enormous man leans arrogantly upon the hilt of his axe. You scan east. *** Range 1 (east) *** A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal. A druid is here, chanting in a mysterious language. You scan south. You scan west.
<739hp 751m 392mv> w A very muddy path
[Exits: east south]
<739hp 751m 391mv> s A very muddy path
[Exits: north east south west]
<739hp 751m 390mv> w The western edge of the forest
[Exits: east south] A tree-like creature with large fangs looms your way.
<739hp 751m 389mv> scan You scan all around. You scan east. You scan south. *** Range 1 (south) *** A skinny mouse scampers about, looking for something to eat. A skinny mouse scampers about, looking for something to eat. *** Range 2 (south) *** A druid is here, chanting in a mysterious language. *** Range 3 (south) *** A massive owl waits patiently for its next meal.
<739hp 751m 389mv> where Players near you in Armageddon Sanctuary: <PK> Dogran The western edge of the forest <PK> Mohglin The northern edge of the forest
<739hp 751m 389mv> s The western edge of the forest
[Exits: north east south west]
<739hp 751m 388mv> w w A Dusty Road
[Exits: east west]
<739hp 751m 387mv> where A Dusty Road
[Exits: north east west]
<739hp 751m 386mv> Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road
<739hp 751m 386mv> wh [50 Duerg Sha] <PK> (KING) [LEGION] (Dreadlord) Dogran the Sinister Minister [ Elf ] <PK> Kali Windbreeze the Grand Spectre of Beguilement [ Stone ] <PK> [KEEPER] Mohglin Gooben-Bear the Battlemaster [ H-Elf ] Elia the Lady Gladiator Players found: 4 [KEEPER] The Balance prevails within the four kingdoms. There are 4 characters on; the most on this past month was 14.
<739hp 751m 386mv> where Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road
<739hp 751m 386mv> n n A Dusty Road
[Exits: north south (west)]
<739hp 751m 385mv> where A Dusty Road
[Exits: south west]
<739hp 751m 384mv> w Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road <PK> Mohglin A Dusty Road Mohglin rides in on a giant filthy hog.
<739hp 751m 384mv> w A Dusty Road
[Exits: north east west] Mohglin rides in on a giant filthy hog.
<739hp 751m 383mv> Mohglin rides west on a giant filthy hog.
<739hp 751m 383mv> where A Dusty Road
[Exits: east west] Mohglin is riding on the back of a giant filthy hog.
<739hp 751m 382mv> murder Mohglin Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road <PK> Mohglin A Dusty Road You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Mohglin!' You grip your shield firmly, staving off Mohglin's slash. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's slash MUTILATES you! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<700hp 751m 382mv> You do the best you can! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<700hp 751m 382mv> Mohglin dismounts from a giant filthy hog. A giant filthy hog runs away from combat squealing. Mohglin's slash MUTILATES you! Mohglin's shocking bite scratches you. Mohglin's slash MUTILATES you! Mohglin's shocking bite scratches you. Your shield wobbles and barely deflects Mohglin's slash. Your flame MASSACRES Mohglin! An infernal dire wolf lunges through the sphere of fire to expose his tormented face. You peel away your face to reveal your demonic image. Mohglin drops his weapon from his terror of you! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<623hp 751m 382mv> disp Mohglin Spell failed. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<623hp 736m 382mv> disp Mohglin
Mohglin has fled! Mohglin walks west.
<623hp 736m 382mv> disp Mohglin They aren't here.
<623hp 736m 382mv> They aren't here.
<623hp 736m 382mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<623hp 736m 382mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<623hp 736m 382mv> w A Dusty Road
[Exits: (north) east (south) west]
<623hp 736m 381mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<640hp 757m 399mv> w A Dusty Road
[Exits: north east south] An old fingerpost is erected here, pointing east and south.
<640hp 757m 398mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<640hp 757m 398mv> where Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road <PK> Mohglin A Dusty Road
<640hp 757m 398mv> s A Dusty Road
[Exits: north south west] A yellow chicken wearing a long curly powdered wig struts around clucking.
<640hp 757m 397mv> s A Dusty Road
[Exits: north south]
<640hp 757m 396mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<640hp 757m 396mv> where Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road <PK> Mohglin A Dusty Road
<640hp 757m 396mv> s s A Dusty Road
[Exits: north east south west]
<640hp 757m 395mv> where A Dusty Road
[Exits: north south] (White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<640hp 757m 394mv> Players near you in Gwidry: <PK> Dogran A Dusty Road <PK> Mohglin A Dusty Road Mohglin walks north.
<640hp 757m 394mv> Mohglin walks in.
<640hp 757m 394mv> Mohglin yells 'Die! Dogran, you sorcerous dog!' A dark vortex appears, tearing space and time in front of you. You step into the vortex, dragging Mohglin along with you! You feel more restricted as you are bound by invisible chains! You sense yourself falling suddenly through space and time. Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items. Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items. (White Aura) Mohglin is here. Mohglin's drowning MUTILATES you! You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<598hp 717m 394mv> Your shield wobbles and barely deflects Mohglin's drowning. Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! You parry Mohglin's drowning. Your flame DISEMBOWELS Mohglin! Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<552hp 717m 394mv> disp Mohglin
Mohglin has fled! Mohglin walks up.
<552hp 717m 394mv> murder Mohglin u murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<552hp 717m 394mv> They aren't here.
<552hp 717m 394mv> A Dark Bedroom
[Exits: west down] A dark carved end table with a single candle atop it. A tiger skinned rug. A large flower pot is here. A giant four posted bed covered with black drapery. A large chest made of gold glints in the light. (White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<552hp 717m 393mv> Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!' Mohglin manages to dodge your flame with a lot of effort. Mohglin stumbles and barely dodges your flame. Mohglin has some small wounds and bruises.
<552hp 717m 393mv> disp Mohglin
You awkwardly parry Mohglin's drowning with a loud clang. Your shield wobbles and barely deflects Mohglin's drowning. Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<552hp 717m 393mv> Rimath the trader auctions 'Place yer bids! a flaming flail of fury is being auctioned for 10000 gold!' Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<552hp 717m 393mv> Spell failed. Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<552hp 702m 393mv> disp Mohglin
Mohglin wields a long stiletto in his off-hand. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's stab decimates you! Mohglin's freezing bite scratches you. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's stab devastates you! Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<492hp 702m 393mv> Mohglin hammers your shield repeatedly with his weapons. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn leaks pus as it absorbs Mohglin's barrage attempt. Your oozing pus maims Mohglin! Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<492hp 702m 393mv> You failed the dispel. Mohglin has quite a few wounds.
<492hp 687m 393mv> disp Mohglin
Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! Mohglin's stab devastates you! Mohglin's freezing bite scratches you. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! Mohglin manages to dodge your flame with a lot of effort. Your flame DISEMBOWELS Mohglin! Mohglin has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<369hp 687m 393mv> Spell failed. Mohglin has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<369hp 672m 393mv> Mohglin has fled! Mohglin walks down.
<369hp 672m 393mv> murder Mohglin murder Mohglin They aren't here. Rimath the trader auctions 'Place yer bids! a flaming flail of fury is being auctioned for 10000 gold!'
<369hp 672m 393mv> They aren't here.
<369hp 672m 393mv> d Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items. (White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<388hp 708m 399mv> murder Mohglin Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!' Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<388hp 708m 399mv> flee
Mohglin hammers your shield repeatedly with his weapons. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn leaks pus as it absorbs Mohglin's barrage attempt. Your oozing pus maims Mohglin! Mohglin has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<388hp 708m 399mv> Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's stab devastates you! Mohglin's freezing bite scratches you. Your flame maims Mohglin! Your flame DISEMBOWELS Mohglin! Mohglin has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<264hp 708m 399mv> You flee from combat! A Smelly Bathroom
[Exits: north] A course rug placed in front of the vanity. A small bristly rug draped in front of the toilet. A sign over the toilet that reads clean the seat. A large smelly toilet shaped chair. A small vanity cabinet with a burnished stone top.
<264hp 708m 398mv> cucr You feel a lot better!
<321hp 683m 398mv> cucr
Mohglin walks in.
<321hp 683m 398mv> You feel a lot better!
<381hp 658m 398mv> You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Mohglin!' You parry Mohglin's drowning. Mohglin's stab devastates you! Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! You parry Mohglin's drowning. You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's stab devastates you! Mohglin's freezing bite scratches you. Your flame DISEMBOWELS Mohglin! Mohglin looks pretty hurt.
<272hp 623m 398mv> Mohglin's drowning DISEMBOWELS you! You block Mohglin's attack with your shield. Mohglin's drowning DISMEMBERS you! Mohglin deflects your flame aside in an ungraceful parry. Mohglin awkwardly parries your flame with a loud clang. Mohglin looks pretty hurt.
<170hp 623m 398mv> Mohglin hammers your shield repeatedly with his weapons. The shrunken head of a shadowspawn leaks pus as it absorbs Mohglin's barrage attempt. Your oozing pus injures Mohglin. Mohglin looks pretty hurt.
<170hp 623m 398mv> flee You flee from combat! Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items.
<170hp 623m 397mv> s A Smelly Bathroom
[Exits: north] A course rug placed in front of the vanity. A small bristly rug draped in front of the toilet. A sign over the toilet that reads clean the seat. A large smelly toilet shaped chair. A small vanity cabinet with a burnished stone top. (White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<170hp 623m 396mv> murder Mohglin Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!' Your flame DISEMBOWELS Mohglin! Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin is in awful condition.
<170hp 623m 396mv> Mohglin has fled! Mohglin limps north.
<170hp 623m 396mv> n murder Mohglin Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items.
<170hp 623m 395mv> They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 395mv> Mohglin limps in.
<170hp 623m 395mv> u A Dark Bedroom
[Exits: west down] A dark carved end table with a single candle atop it. A tiger skinned rug. A large flower pot is here. A giant four posted bed covered with black drapery. A large chest made of gold glints in the light.
<170hp 623m 394mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 394mv> d Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items.
<170hp 623m 393mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 393mv> Mohglin limps in.
<170hp 623m 393mv> murder Mohglin Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!' Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin has fled! Mohglin crawls up.
<170hp 623m 393mv> scan u murder Mohglin
Mohglin crawls in.
<170hp 623m 393mv> You scan all around. You scan north. You scan south. You scan up. You scan down.
<170hp 623m 393mv> A Dark Bedroom
[Exits: west down] A dark carved end table with a single candle atop it. A tiger skinned rug. A large flower pot is here. A giant four posted bed covered with black drapery. A large chest made of gold glints in the light.
<170hp 623m 392mv> d murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 392mv> Living room
[Exits: north south up (down)] A large dark leather couch, with carved wooden arms. A primitive furnace is here, ready for smelting. A large flower pot is here. A brushed out bearskin rug lies before you. An herb grinder is here, grinding away. A well crafted rocking chair with curved handles. A tall decorative display case filled with various items.
<170hp 623m 391mv> They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 391mv> scan You scan all around. You scan north. *** Range 1 (north) *** (White Aura) Mohglin is here. You scan south. You scan up. You scan down.
<170hp 623m 391mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 391mv> Mohglin crawls in.
<170hp 623m 391mv> murder Mohglin Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!' Your flame maims Mohglin! Mohglin has fled! Mohglin crawls south.
<170hp 623m 391mv> murder Mohglin murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 391mv> They aren't here.
<170hp 623m 391mv> Your protective shield dissipates.
<191hp 647m 399mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<191hp 647m 399mv> murder Mohglin They aren't here.
<191hp 647m 399mv> s A Smelly Bathroom
[Exits: north] A course rug placed in front of the vanity. A small bristly rug draped in front of the toilet. A sign over the toilet that reads clean the seat. A large smelly toilet shaped chair. A small vanity cabinet with a burnished stone top. (White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<191hp 647m 398mv> murder Mohglin Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!' Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin! Mohglin is DEAD!! A demonic horn erupts from the shrunken head of a shadowspawn. Mohglin's hand is ripped from his arm.
<191hp 647m 398mv> You lost your concentration.
<191hp 622m 398mv> You mutilate Mohglin's corpse and construct a shrine from the carnage. You receive 50 skulls of [LEGION].
<191hp 572m 398mv> look in cor The corpse of Mohglin holds: (Magical) a deep red stone a pair of dragonblood stonesteel chausses of evisceration a pair of dragonwing stonesteel gloves a dragonblood bloodsteel fingerspike of evisceration a dragonwing stonesteel cuirass of unerring flight (Humming) a rod of mind spectres a dragonblood pleated leather backpack of evisceration (open) an onyx-black firemesh aventail of alacrity (Glowing) (Tainted) a dragonblood yin-yang votive of evisceration a dragonwing stonesteel belt of unerring flight a dragonwing firemesh armband of unerring flight a dragonblood firemesh armband of maiming (Humming) a long stiletto (Humming) some arrows of the mer-Monster (25) a flask labelled 'Gyvel' (Magical) a Hell-Bow a crystal flask a pair of disease-scarred stonesteel greaves a disease-scarred firemesh aventail a pair of disease-scarred stonesteel sleeves of inoculation a disease-scarred stonesteel barbut of inoculation a disease-scarred bloodsteel fingerspike of inoculation ( 2) (Glowing) (Humming) a Defender potion ( 4) a purple potion (Magical) (Glowing) (Humming) a water cube a perfect potion of recall 2335 gold coins
[Exits: north]
A course rug placed in front of the vanity.
A small bristly rug draped in front of the toilet.
A sign over the toilet that reads clean the seat.
A large smelly toilet shaped chair.
A small vanity cabinet with a burnished stone top.
(White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<191hp 647m 398mv> murder Mohglin
Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!'
Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin!
Mohglin is DEAD!!
A demonic horn erupts from the shrunken head of a shadowspawn.
Mohglin's hand is ripped from his arm.
All lair doors are latched on the inside, so the key is only needed to get IN. It does not also require the key to unlock the door and exit. Most doors in AR are already like that, and increasingly we have been converting more of them. What makes the abduct far more dangerous is that the situation would put the victim into the fight-or-flight response (i.e. makes you "dumb"), and end up not looking for a latch. He could've definitely walked out. It is possible he just did not know that, but as I said, that is typical door behavior. I'm stating it because I don't want there to be any perception that an abduct to a lair is a death sentence. It isnt.
It 100 percent is a death sentence. How is anyone suppose to grasp where the hell they are if the 5 or 6 rooms they get are added by someone else and have never been traversed by myself. It's 100 percent a death sentence. Should I have spammed murder and not fled around like a chicken yes. Shrunken head eating idk 15 barrage from a giant however js crap. Barrage is made for shields and should get a damage bonus against heads that helps pops it. If not what the fuck qualifies to hurt it and does the damage done to head max out or can u just spam overhead crush and shield pick up the obliterates causing it to pop. Basically I cant do anything but stand there and watch rng cause his head blocks all my other shit. Had 778 hp out of 910 when abducted and I literally attempted to only pop the head as you can tell by all the pus. Perhaps nerf that head or make barrage be the bain that shamans needs cause 910 hp gone to POSSIBLY even have a chance of landing a disarm or bash or trip?? The game is supposed to be about balance every class can kill another class blah blah blah. He carries 5 heads. 910x5xpurples and detects and skirmishes. Idk how a skill thats MADE to destroy shields doesn't take that shrunken head and destroy it entirely. Makes no sense.
Couple of things here, everything that could have gone right for me, did. Tattoo disarm, teleport to small area, my enemy panicking because he couldn't pop the head. All of that piled up for this win. Believe it or not, you almost popped the head twice. This is right before the teleport in the log.
<608hp 802m 375mv> phgr owl
You consume a massive owl with the phantoms of the underworld.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
It looks pretty empty.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a LOT of room in the shrunken head of a shadowspawn.
Your phantom grasp grazes a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a LOT of room in the shrunken head of a shadowspawn.
A massive owl has some small wounds and bruises.
<608hp 782m 375mv> phgr
You consume a massive owl with the phantoms of the underworld.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a little room for more pus.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a little room for more pus.
A massive owl has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
Anyway, I still had to go back and refill it afterwards, it was literally 1 strike away from busting, and no I did not have an extra head on me. Last time I played you popped my other head and almost killed me because I didn't notice.
Honestly you should have NOT tried to pop the head, imo. Just murder inside that tiny space and then Dogran is the one getting shit on and not you. Barrage causes too much self damage. You ate a ton of damage and lagged yourself by using barrage. It's dumb and I agree it should be changed somehow. But just don't do it in a small space like that, you could have lived longer and done more damage by just murdering.
The most powerful aspect of abduct is the instant panic it causes in the victim. When you are whisked away to a new random location the instinct to run is overwhelming. The trick is to get abducted a lot! Eventually you get immune to that feeling and are able to effectively turn on your abductor. Here’s some general advice for dealing with abduct (not specifically aimed at you, Mohglin).
Kali’s tips for being abducted:
1 - Don’t panic. It’s ok to say “oh fuck”, but don’t lose your focus. Your abductor will have just as much trouble getting away from you as you will getting away from them.
2 - Orient yourself. Flee immediately and create some space while you figure out where you are. Once you figure out where you are, quickly assess how well you know the area and how well you would be able to run away if you are losing.
3 - Make your choice. Now you have to decide if you are going to fight or flee. If you don’t know the area well or if you don’t think you’d be able to escape, turn on your aggressor and swing for the fences. If you know the area, know you can escape, and are well matched, then turn on your abductor and take them down. If you’re losing, you can run. If you know the area, and know you can get away, but you aren’t prepared for the fight, just run like hell.
4 - Be prepared. Always carry a dusty old robe for the Armageddon sanctuary, and always have a couple misty potions on hand (or pass door up). Being able to quickly get through doors might save your life.
Those tips are great for normal areas but there's no space to be created in a lair. This was even a big lair. Imagine being abducted to one of those 1 room crappy lairs and not being able to flee.
I didn't know lairs could be abducted to and personally I don't think it is a good idea to allow it.
There is a trade off Vanisse, had it of been one area I for sure would have died. Would literally have been nothing I could do beyond unlocking the door and running away which would have allowed him to escape too.
I imagine the recent change to the way lair doors work might have made them included in abduct, but that's just a guess. Kali's tips are awesome, and I think it still stands that Mohglin could have killed Dogran here. But even still, I am inclined to agree with Vanisse that maybe lair's shouldn't be included. We haven't even considered the true victim here. The owner of this home, who had his nice little lair invaded by two foreign trespassers who made an absolute mess of the place.
You just kinda made me want that, strictly for roleplay reasons. "Dogran abducts you and has his way with you" "Dogran says 'it puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again'"
All the more reason for someone(or someones) to stand up to him and put him down. Might be gross, but also hilarious and good roleplay. Waiting to see this.
Discussions about abduct will always go both ways because the abductors will love abducts (especially when done on people who have a load of rares and constantly quit out) and the abductees will find being abducted really frustrating. I think the free lair tour is a neat thing. It seems just the shackle tipping things a bit overboard. I understand the frustration there. That's still nowhere near as OP as the old abduct though. I think it would be a really bad idea to roll abduct back to the old version.
I totally agree with Dav, the abduct to the rift (that does damage) + rares scattered was way, way more brutal than the current iteration.
I’d way rather be abducted into some legion’s creepy basement and have a chance to escape than face the rift unprepared...I mean, not that sound like an awesome time either..but..rift....
My number one complaint about lair abduct is what if you die very soon after and/or were lagged a lot or any number of things and never have a chance to figure out where in the fuck you even were. It doesn't become obvious what area you're in by the rooms alone. Meaning you could die and have literally no idea which direction to go to get your shit back. Also, can ghosts even enter locked lairs? Letting the legion sit inside looting your corpse at his leisure is not cool and should not be happening.
Looting your corpse + the house's owner's things, if you end up in someone else's house. Or if it's your house, intentionally building one room certain doom dungeons for those classes who know it'd be a free trip to hell. Not knowing what area you're in sucks too. To get out, you're stuck there playing the open door/close door game from that cave log, while eating a pile of damage. Oh, and you can just get blinded/dirted and be screwed. There are many reasons I don't think lair abduct is a good idea.
You're right, we should go back to sanctuary abduct, where you pop up shackled in front of a sentry and instantly get trapped in a no exit. It's very possible to get out of this situation, its very rare(like I have abducted 40ish times since this change) this is the first time it's happened. Yay RNG, can always eat a purple pill. Also abduct is 100 percent preventable.
Arunore, when we say lair we are referring to the buildable "houses" you can make in game. You have to buy a hovel door from Yarbok to get started.
Try help lair and help deploy.
I ran the math on this "lair abduct" and found it was 1 in 400 chance wearing full saves anyway. That's the same odds as winning two roulette jackpots in a row and turning 10k gold into 4 million. Not to mention, just purchase protection. 100% avoidable. So in the interest of saving myself a headache listening to a bunch of regurgitated tiresome complaining over this ever again, I removed that. If I had actually found a decent chance of working I would definitely just be saying fuck off, but this much drama over a 1 in 400, not worth it. This said, it does not come without a price. I will never nerf headshrinking ever because of deletes. No matter how many warriors you guys delete over that, this is the log that made 100% sure. IT WILL NOT WORK. NEVER. EVER. I don't care if your forum thread is as long as the nile.
This new anti-barrage stuff makes shamans look stupid strong. I remember often losing fights only because of barrage/crane kick when playing Taor/Veromos, if this woulda been a thing then, I'd padded my stats way more :D
I actually think the barrage is a big mistake in this log. He should be able to just spam flee/murder and win with that much damroll + water cubes. Warriors got used to caking shamans with barrage, thats all. Its winnable. Better luck next time.
If it didn't block every other skill I have dav I'd be inclined to agree with you but you're wrong. I dont know how many times did I barrage inside lair? 2 times. As opposed to the 9 other times outside of the lair and still could not pop it.
The issue is that the head blocks every other skill. Imo a skill that is made to bust shields should be extremely effective vs shrunken head. Mohglin is right, there really isn't an effective counter atm
So I actually think this problem could be remedied if other people could see how beat-up the shield is (I think only the shaman can do that?). Mohglin had the right strategy starting off here, and he nearly busted the shield. Problem was that literally in two phantom grasps Dogran was able to top it back off. If Mohglin had seen that, he probably would have abandoned the barrage and just gone for murders
I just meant that the flee/murder is so strong here that it looks like the better action to take. Like who cares if the head finally gets popped after 9 barrages? That's 9 murders you could've done instead. Its enough damage to kill him. Taking damage for barrage does not look worth it in this log.
I can only see the barrage strategy working if two criteria are met:
1 - you know you can get away if it isn’t going well (or you are willing to die)
2 - the shaman doesn’t have another head he can immediately hold
That being said, I’m not a warrior..so......I might be way off.
You're right Dav. Murder was by far the better option.
I think the true thing you yourself should be pondering here is, does it seem reasonable and balanced to have barrage be worthless garbage and worse than murder spam? Does that sound like a fun game? Does that mean shamans are balanced? Does that mean barrage is functioning as intended?
Just asking questions that I personally think ought to be floating in your head. I won't answer them with my opinions.
This seems a little petty. I am happy to discuss the game balance of shamans but you could be a bit more mature about it. And yes when you have a warrior running on 65 damroll its dirt/bash at some point. If he was a dwarf warrior hed have won this fight with no sanc.
Wasn't my intention to be petty. Surprised it came across that way in fact. I was just trying to consolidate what has been said in this thread and then leave it up to you, rather than force my own ideas/opinions on you.
You saying things as asinine as a dwarf warrior winning this fight without sanc. Please. Don't ask me to be mature and then be immature. Also, shamans already have a spell that blocks bash. That's nothing new, nor is it contested.
Idc so much that the head blocks all.my shit. I want it to pop faster with a skill that directly affect shields. It shouldn't take me 910 hp to have an opening for anything
When you write "does it seem reasonable and balanced to have barrage be worthless garbage" it presupposes that it IS. It is NOT. He's just massively geared so murder is badass. Here's what this is really about. Guy falls in a toilet and dies, gets butthurt, wants retribution. Deletes to try to nerf shamans.
You keep saying it takes 910 hp. I stopped in the middle of the fight to recover the head, because you almost popped it. Then, when you were already hurt, you tried to pop it all over again. Of course when we were fighting, you had no way of knowing that I had restored the head mostly. It wasn't completely full, but it was one or two strikes away from going when you began panicking.
If you just flee/murder you would have won... this whole conversation would have never gotten this far. You had a shaman in close quarters, exactly where you want him, and you squandered it. Ok, you think barrage sucks against shamans...well its great against plenty other classes. You still SHOULD have won this fight. It was handed to you on a platter.
Okay I 100 percent already said yes I should have won. I already agreed im an idiot and should have flee squat shit unload on dogran. The point here is this situation is 1 and 40 chance to be abducted to their lair. Im not gonna be abducted to his lair everytime I want you all to pause and think beyond just this one little box of a fight. And for all future possible warrior/shaman match ups where we took away weapon ward and instead gave them heads. Skip all middle ground. Weapon ward gone end result heads. Now weapon ward had to be maintained and fell and people lost it without noticing. Dogran you not noticing your head was missing for 1 battle is cause you're dumb. Who doesn't look at their prompt and see disadvantage. Anyway. The head is way more crazy than weapon ward. I dont need to beat the dead horse. If yall are gonna just say you shoulda won. Well I know oh well 🤷. Not here for the shouldas.
What sucks is you can't pick yourself up and shut up the haters with a return win, because of the delete. Thats what I live to see, and you ruined my dreams. Also, you coulda won that.
That's hilarious, people still use prompts? I don't even set mine up anymore. And no, it's not something I notice, I have an alias set up to let me know when my head explodes, and for whatever reason it didn't work. It was for a whole battle though, just a few skirmishes where I noticed you were suddenly doing a lot more damage. My whole point was in that case my head could literally only hold 2 or 3 strikes worth of pus at max. You popped it basically instantly. I am going to have to start taking them to 5, and then instantly getting new heads because every head I have taken to 5 has lasted a day, two tops after getting that 5th kill.
Well considering combat style isn't something you have to worry about I can see why you would mock prompts. The rest of us plebs that don't have head kinda of have to look at it.
Heads should absolutely be a trade off. Like negative stats for the permanent immunity to combat style. Instead it gives decent stats AND that immunity. Personally I like the idea of heads, but its like shaman get their cake and can eat it too.
Decent stats? Nah man it's one of the best shields in the game. Dogran's head there probably gives 20AC to all classes and 10 saves to all spells and 5 damroll. Best shield in game and not only blocks all skills but makes them take damage for using the skills. A pretty large chunk of damage too tbh. decimates on a giant is pretty solid damage.
I've been bitching about these since day one lol.
But honestly Moghlin should've just murdered and not even used skills and he would've won.
So shield had zero damroll till I killed him, now it has 1. Ac is NOT that great anymore already got nerfed. Finally, my 5 damroll head got popped in two barrage last fight with him.
Death in AR is a learning experience, we invent these skills and spells with right and wrong ways to use them. Not gonna update the game so that anything you type is automatically the right decision. Like I would not spam trip on a giant with a thief and then complain I died because he had way more hp and damage. You guys are playing worse than that- you are spamming something which significantly damages you back. Is this not a strong enough hint? If you looked at his shield, saw a full-sized demonic horn, then yes, barrage away.
[reply to Resatimm]
A Smelly Bathroom
[Exits: north]
A course rug placed in front of the vanity.
A small bristly rug draped in front of the toilet.
A sign over the toilet that reads clean the seat.
A large smelly toilet shaped chair.
A small vanity cabinet with a burnished stone top.
(White Aura) Mohglin is here.
<191hp 647m 398mv> murder Mohglin
Mohglin yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Dogran!'
Your flame MUTILATES Mohglin!
Mohglin is DEAD!!
A demonic horn erupts from the shrunken head of a shadowspawn.
Mohglin's hand is ripped from his arm.
[reply to Ashlyn]
Mohglin 1 , 0 , 0 . It 100 percent is a death sentence. How is anyone suppose to grasp where the hell they are if the 5 or 6 rooms they get are added by someone else and have never been traversed by myself. It's 100 percent a death sentence. Should I have spammed murder and not fled around like a chicken yes. Shrunken head eating idk 15 barrage from a giant however js crap. Barrage is made for shields and should get a damage bonus against heads that helps pops it. If not what the fuck qualifies to hurt it and does the damage done to head max out or can u just spam overhead crush and shield pick up the obliterates causing it to pop. Basically I cant do anything but stand there and watch rng cause his head blocks all my other shit. Had 778 hp out of 910 when abducted and I literally attempted to only pop the head as you can tell by all the pus. Perhaps nerf that head or make barrage be the bain that shamans needs cause 910 hp gone to POSSIBLY even have a chance of landing a disarm or bash or trip?? The game is supposed to be about balance every class can kill another class blah blah blah. He carries 5 heads. 910x5xpurples and detects and skirmishes. Idk how a skill thats MADE to destroy shields doesn't take that shrunken head and destroy it entirely. Makes no sense. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . Couple of things here, everything that could have gone right for me, did. Tattoo disarm, teleport to small area, my enemy panicking because he couldn't pop the head. All of that piled up for this win. Believe it or not, you almost popped the head twice. This is right before the teleport in the log.
hamsandwich 
1 , 0 , 0 . Honestly you should have NOT tried to pop the head, imo. Just murder inside that tiny space and then Dogran is the one getting shit on and not you. Barrage causes too much self damage. You ate a ton of damage and lagged yourself by using barrage. It's dumb and I agree it should be changed somehow. But just don't do it in a small space like that, you could have lived longer and done more damage by just murdering. Dogran 
0 , 0 , 0 . Yep, I should have been the one dunked here. Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . The most powerful aspect of abduct is the instant panic it causes in the victim. When you are whisked away to a new random location the instinct to run is overwhelming. The trick is to get abducted a lot! Eventually you get immune to that feeling and are able to effectively turn on your abductor. Here’s some general advice for dealing with abduct (not specifically aimed at you, Mohglin).
Vanisse 
1 , 0 , 0 . Those tips are great for normal areas but there's no space to be created in a lair. This was even a big lair. Imagine being abducted to one of those 1 room crappy lairs and not being able to flee.
Dogran 
0 , 0 , 0 . These are good tips. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . There is a trade off Vanisse, had it of been one area I for sure would have died. Would literally have been nothing I could do beyond unlocking the door and running away which would have allowed him to escape too. hamsandwich 
1 , 0 , 0 . I imagine the recent change to the way lair doors work might have made them included in abduct, but that's just a guess. Kali's tips are awesome, and I think it still stands that Mohglin could have killed Dogran here. But even still, I am inclined to agree with Vanisse that maybe lair's shouldn't be included. We haven't even considered the true victim here. The owner of this home, who had his nice little lair invaded by two foreign trespassers who made an absolute mess of the place. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . Rofl it was my lair. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . Enjoy the free tour guys! Vanisse 
0 , 0 , 0 . If it's somehow restricted to owner's lair that makes it even worse since you have the layout advantage. I think lairs should be off the table. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . Literally a latch on the inside of the door. to get out I pulled out keys right? I pulled out the wrong keys. hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 0 . Oh yeah I agree even more now. Home turf advantage. Abduct someone to your own house. Fuck that. Getting way too Hannibal up in here now. Ashlyn 
1 , 0 , 0 . You just kinda made me want that, strictly for roleplay reasons. "Dogran abducts you and has his way with you" "Dogran says 'it puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again'" Vanisse 
0 , 0 , 0 . barf Ashlyn 
0 , 0 , 0 . All the more reason for someone(or someones) to stand up to him and put him down. Might be gross, but also hilarious and good roleplay. Waiting to see this. Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . Discussions about abduct will always go both ways because the abductors will love abducts (especially when done on people who have a load of rares and constantly quit out) and the abductees will find being abducted really frustrating. I think the free lair tour is a neat thing. It seems just the shackle tipping things a bit overboard. I understand the frustration there. That's still nowhere near as OP as the old abduct though. I think it would be a really bad idea to roll abduct back to the old version. Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . I totally agree with Dav, the abduct to the rift (that does damage) + rares scattered was way, way more brutal than the current iteration.
hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 0 . My number one complaint about lair abduct is what if you die very soon after and/or were lagged a lot or any number of things and never have a chance to figure out where in the fuck you even were. It doesn't become obvious what area you're in by the rooms alone. Meaning you could die and have literally no idea which direction to go to get your shit back. Also, can ghosts even enter locked lairs? Letting the legion sit inside looting your corpse at his leisure is not cool and should not be happening. Vanisse 
0 , 0 , 0 . Looting your corpse + the house's owner's things, if you end up in someone else's house. Or if it's your house, intentionally building one room certain doom dungeons for those classes who know it'd be a free trip to hell. Not knowing what area you're in sucks too. To get out, you're stuck there playing the open door/close door game from that cave log, while eating a pile of damage. Oh, and you can just get blinded/dirted and be screwed. There are many reasons I don't think lair abduct is a good idea. Dogran 
0 , 0 , 1 . You're right, we should go back to sanctuary abduct, where you pop up shackled in front of a sentry and instantly get trapped in a no exit. It's very possible to get out of this situation, its very rare(like I have abducted 40ish times since this change) this is the first time it's happened. Yay RNG, can always eat a purple pill. Also abduct is 100 percent preventable. Arunore 
1 , 0 , 0 . what is a "lair"? Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . And this is why we dont discuss cabal powers on the logboard. hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 1 . A lair isn't a cabal power Dav. Wtf?
Davairus 1 , 1 , 1 . I ran the math on this "lair abduct" and found it was 1 in 400 chance wearing full saves anyway. That's the same odds as winning two roulette jackpots in a row and turning 10k gold into 4 million. Not to mention, just purchase protection. 100% avoidable. So in the interest of saving myself a headache listening to a bunch of regurgitated tiresome complaining over this ever again, I removed that. If I had actually found a decent chance of working I would definitely just be saying fuck off, but this much drama over a 1 in 400, not worth it. This said, it does not come without a price. I will never nerf headshrinking ever because of deletes. No matter how many warriors you guys delete over that, this is the log that made 100% sure. IT WILL NOT WORK. NEVER. EVER. I don't care if your forum thread is as long as the nile.
[reply to Davairus]<608hp 802m 375mv> phgr owl
You consume a massive owl with the phantoms of the underworld.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
It looks pretty empty.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a LOT of room in the shrunken head of a shadowspawn.
Your phantom grasp grazes a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a LOT of room in the shrunken head of a shadowspawn.
A massive owl has some small wounds and bruises.
<608hp 782m 375mv> phgr
You consume a massive owl with the phantoms of the underworld.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a little room for more pus.
Your phantom grasp hits a massive owl.
The phantoms drain a massive owl of its magical resistance.
The shrunken head of a shadowspawn absorbs ectoplasm from the phantoms.
There's a little room for more pus.
A massive owl has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
Anyway, I still had to go back and refill it afterwards, it was literally 1 strike away from busting, and no I did not have an extra head on me. Last time I played you popped my other head and almost killed me because I didn't notice.
Kali’s tips for being abducted:
1 - Don’t panic. It’s ok to say “oh fuck”, but don’t lose your focus. Your abductor will have just as much trouble getting away from you as you will getting away from them.
2 - Orient yourself. Flee immediately and create some space while you figure out where you are. Once you figure out where you are, quickly assess how well you know the area and how well you would be able to run away if you are losing.
3 - Make your choice. Now you have to decide if you are going to fight or flee. If you don’t know the area well or if you don’t think you’d be able to escape, turn on your aggressor and swing for the fences. If you know the area, know you can escape, and are well matched, then turn on your abductor and take them down. If you’re losing, you can run. If you know the area, and know you can get away, but you aren’t prepared for the fight, just run like hell.
4 - Be prepared. Always carry a dusty old robe for the Armageddon sanctuary, and always have a couple misty potions on hand (or pass door up). Being able to quickly get through doors might save your life.
I didn't know lairs could be abducted to and personally I don't think it is a good idea to allow it.
Get Key
unlock down
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outsies and safe.
I’d way rather be abducted into some legion’s creepy basement and have a chance to escape than face the rift unprepared...I mean, not that sound like an awesome time either..but..rift....
Arunore, when we say lair we are referring to the buildable "houses" you can make in game. You have to buy a hovel door from Yarbok to get started.
Try help lair and help deploy.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . I actually think the barrage is a big mistake in this log. He should be able to just spam flee/murder and win with that much damroll + water cubes. Warriors got used to caking shamans with barrage, thats all. Its winnable. Better luck next time. Mohglin 0 , 0 , 0 . If it didn't block every other skill I have dav I'd be inclined to agree with you but you're wrong. I dont know how many times did I barrage inside lair? 2 times. As opposed to the 9 other times outside of the lair and still could not pop it. Vevier 
1 , 0 , 0 . The issue is that the head blocks every other skill. Imo a skill that is made to bust shields should be extremely effective vs shrunken head. Mohglin is right, there really isn't an effective counter atm lionSpyre 
2 , 0 , 0 . So I actually think this problem could be remedied if other people could see how beat-up the shield is (I think only the shaman can do that?). Mohglin had the right strategy starting off here, and he nearly busted the shield. Problem was that literally in two phantom grasps Dogran was able to top it back off. If Mohglin had seen that, he probably would have abandoned the barrage and just gone for murders Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . I just meant that the flee/murder is so strong here that it looks like the better action to take. Like who cares if the head finally gets popped after 9 barrages? That's 9 murders you could've done instead. Its enough damage to kill him. Taking damage for barrage does not look worth it in this log. Kali 0 , 0 , 0 . I can only see the barrage strategy working if two criteria are met:
Mohglin 0 , 0 , 0 . My initial plan was pop shield bow and water arrows him to death. Assumed axes and barrage would eat the head like candy time. hamsandwich 
2 , 0 , 0 . You're right Dav. Murder was by far the better option.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . This seems a little petty. I am happy to discuss the game balance of shamans but you could be a bit more mature about it. And yes when you have a warrior running on 65 damroll its dirt/bash at some point. If he was a dwarf warrior hed have won this fight with no sanc. hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 0 . Wasn't my intention to be petty. Surprised it came across that way in fact. I was just trying to consolidate what has been said in this thread and then leave it up to you, rather than force my own ideas/opinions on you.
Mohglin 0 , 0 , 0 . Idc so much that the head blocks all.my shit. I want it to pop faster with a skill that directly affect shields. It shouldn't take me 910 hp to have an opening for anything Davairus 0 , 0 , 1 . When you write "does it seem reasonable and balanced to have barrage be worthless garbage" it presupposes that it IS. It is NOT. He's just massively geared so murder is badass. Here's what this is really about. Guy falls in a toilet and dies, gets butthurt, wants retribution. Deletes to try to nerf shamans. Mohglin 2 , 0 , 0 . I deleted cause keepers is retarded. Thats another story in itself Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . You keep saying it takes 910 hp. I stopped in the middle of the fight to recover the head, because you almost popped it. Then, when you were already hurt, you tried to pop it all over again. Of course when we were fighting, you had no way of knowing that I had restored the head mostly. It wasn't completely full, but it was one or two strikes away from going when you began panicking. Xenyar 
2 , 0 , 0 . If you just flee/murder you would have won... this whole conversation would have never gotten this far. You had a shaman in close quarters, exactly where you want him, and you squandered it. Ok, you think barrage sucks against shamans...well its great against plenty other classes. You still SHOULD have won this fight. It was handed to you on a platter. Mohglin 0 , 0 , 0 . Okay I 100 percent already said yes I should have won. I already agreed im an idiot and should have flee squat shit unload on dogran. The point here is this situation is 1 and 40 chance to be abducted to their lair. Im not gonna be abducted to his lair everytime I want you all to pause and think beyond just this one little box of a fight. And for all future possible warrior/shaman match ups where we took away weapon ward and instead gave them heads. Skip all middle ground. Weapon ward gone end result heads. Now weapon ward had to be maintained and fell and people lost it without noticing. Dogran you not noticing your head was missing for 1 battle is cause you're dumb. Who doesn't look at their prompt and see disadvantage. Anyway. The head is way more crazy than weapon ward. I dont need to beat the dead horse. If yall are gonna just say you shoulda won. Well I know oh well 🤷. Not here for the shouldas. Ashlyn 
2 , 0 , 0 . What sucks is you can't pick yourself up and shut up the haters with a return win, because of the delete. Thats what I live to see, and you ruined my dreams. Also, you coulda won that. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . That's hilarious, people still use prompts? I don't even set mine up anymore. And no, it's not something I notice, I have an alias set up to let me know when my head explodes, and for whatever reason it didn't work. It was for a whole battle though, just a few skirmishes where I noticed you were suddenly doing a lot more damage. My whole point was in that case my head could literally only hold 2 or 3 strikes worth of pus at max. You popped it basically instantly. I am going to have to start taking them to 5, and then instantly getting new heads because every head I have taken to 5 has lasted a day, two tops after getting that 5th kill. Ashlyn 
0 , 0 , 0 . Well considering combat style isn't something you have to worry about I can see why you would mock prompts. The rest of us plebs that don't have head kinda of have to look at it. Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . It wasn't serious, its built into my client, but no I don't look at it on casters, I have other tools for that. Vanisse 
1 , 0 , 0 . not everyone uses a fancy client Dogran 
0 , 1 , 0 . They should, its fantastic. Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . People are getting booed for using Olyn's cmud plugin? Haha Mohglin 0 , 0 , 0 . Idk why i use it to
[reply to maeve]1 - you know you can get away if it isn’t going well (or you are willing to die)
2 - the shaman doesn’t have another head he can immediately hold
That being said, I’m not a warrior..so......I might be way off.
I think the true thing you yourself should be pondering here is, does it seem reasonable and balanced to have barrage be worthless garbage and worse than murder spam? Does that sound like a fun game? Does that mean shamans are balanced? Does that mean barrage is functioning as intended?
Just asking questions that I personally think ought to be floating in your head. I won't answer them with my opinions.
You saying things as asinine as a dwarf warrior winning this fight without sanc. Please. Don't ask me to be mature and then be immature. Also, shamans already have a spell that blocks bash. That's nothing new, nor is it contested.
Ashlyn 
0 , 0 , 0 . Or maybe make it like prudence where it doesnt work when the shaman is blinded. The head can't see either, so it doesnt work etc. hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 0 . Decent stats? Nah man it's one of the best shields in the game. Dogran's head there probably gives 20AC to all classes and 10 saves to all spells and 5 damroll. Best shield in game and not only blocks all skills but makes them take damage for using the skills. A pretty large chunk of damage too tbh. decimates on a giant is pretty solid damage.
Dogran 
0 , 1 , 1 . So shield had zero damroll till I killed him, now it has 1. Ac is NOT that great anymore already got nerfed. Finally, my 5 damroll head got popped in two barrage last fight with him. Davairus 0 , 0 , 1 . Death in AR is a learning experience, we invent these skills and spells with right and wrong ways to use them. Not gonna update the game so that anything you type is automatically the right decision. Like I would not spam trip on a giant with a thief and then complain I died because he had way more hp and damage. You guys are playing worse than that- you are spamming something which significantly damages you back. Is this not a strong enough hint? If you looked at his shield, saw a full-sized demonic horn, then yes, barrage away.
[reply to Ashlyn]I've been bitching about these since day one lol.
But honestly Moghlin should've just murdered and not even used skills and he would've won.