A Myriad of Colors
| This place is an oddity indeed. Bright colors shimmer in
| streaks throughout the room, and seem to lift your heart.
| A great chandelier made of light blue crystal hangs from
| the ceiling, and lends the room a feeling of beauty and
@-*-*| majesty. Standing in here is almost intoxicating, so inviting
| | is the atmosphere. A fine chair covered with animal skins
*-*-*| lies off to the side, a good place to rest for those who
| | are tired. To the east lies the entrance to the inner sanctum.
* |
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[Exits: east south]
(Translucent) (Pink Aura) (White Aura) Alkas the Grand Master of Seasons, Archon of Valour is here.
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Alkas rises back to his feet.
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You hit Alkas on the back of the head with a lead filled sack.
Alkas goes to sleep.
<694hp 352m 429mv 19980tnl> l alkas
Alkas looks less wobbly on his feet.
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Bright red hair spikes out from the top of this young mans head, swaying
and undulating in a way that seems to make the colors shift as if they were
living flame. Wrapped around his forehead he wears a simple leather band
that hides not only his hairline, but also the tip of his left ear. The
right must have slipped out, its pointed tip bearing the tell-tale signs of
his elven heritage. His eyes are a pale blue, the color of a frozen stream,
in almost paradoxical contradiction to the burning passion with which his
gaze moves about the room. His nose is relatively small and would be
nondescript if not for the bend to the right, a clear indication of the
mishap it befell sometime long past. Narrow shoulders lead to long arms and
end at rough and calloused hands. He moves about almost constantly, not
twitchy per se, but simply energetic. This same energy accompanies his
stride, as each step he seems on the verge of skipping away.
Alkas has a few scratches.
Alkas is using:
<used as light> (Glowing) (Humming) 'Angelus', the Sceptre of Divine Virtue
<worn on finger> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration
<worn on finger> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration
<worn around neck> (Glowing) a cat's eye neck pendant
<worn around neck> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonwing mithril-white ascot of unerring flight
<worn on head> a diadem of jagged scurs
<worn on torso> thick, harrowing robes
<worn on arms> (Humming) striped sleeves of the tiger
<worn on hands> (Glowing) a pair of lethal leather gloves
<worn on legs> (Glowing) a pair of charcoal-blackened loose-fitting trousers
<worn on feet> (Glowing) (Humming) a pair of boots of conquest
<worn about body> a beautiful gown of white samite
<worn about waist> the Belt of Untamed Fury
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonwing mithril-white bangle of unerring flight
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white bangle of evisceration
<wrapped over wrist> prayer beads
<wielded two-handed> (Glowing) a yew bow
<stored in quiver> (Humming) some arrows of the Mer-Monster (25)
<floating nearby> (Glowing) (Humming) a titanium talisman
<tattooed> (Shimmering) a dove-winged emerald lyre
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<694hp 352m 429mv 19980tnl> l alkas
Bright red hair spikes out from the top of this young mans head, swaying
and undulating in a way that seems to make the colors shift as if they were
living flame. Wrapped around his forehead he wears a simple leather band
that hides not only his hairline, but also the tip of his left ear. The
right must have slipped out, its pointed tip bearing the tell-tale signs of
his elven heritage. His eyes are a pale blue, the color of a frozen stream,
in almost paradoxical contradiction to the burning passion with which his
gaze moves about the room. His nose is relatively small and would be
nondescript if not for the bend to the right, a clear indication of the
mishap it befell sometime long past. Narrow shoulders lead to long arms and
end at rough and calloused hands. He moves about almost constantly, not
twitchy per se, but simply energetic. This same energy accompanies his
stride, as each step he seems on the verge of skipping away.
Alkas has a few scratches.
Alkas is using:
<used as light> (Glowing) (Humming) 'Angelus', the Sceptre of Divine Virtue
<worn on finger> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration
<worn on finger> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration
<worn around neck> (Glowing) a cat's eye neck pendant
<worn around neck> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonwing mithril-white ascot of unerring flight
<worn on head> a diadem of jagged scurs
<worn on torso> thick, harrowing robes
<worn on arms> (Humming) striped sleeves of the tiger
<worn on hands> (Glowing) a pair of lethal leather gloves
<worn on legs> (Glowing) a pair of charcoal-blackened loose-fitting trousers
<worn on feet> (Glowing) (Humming) a pair of boots of conquest
<worn about body> a beautiful gown of white samite
<worn about waist> the Belt of Untamed Fury
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonwing mithril-white bangle of unerring flight
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white bangle of evisceration
<wrapped over wrist> prayer beads
<wielded two-handed> (Glowing) a yew bow
<stored in quiver> (Humming) some arrows of the Mer-Monster (25)
<floating nearby> (Glowing) (Humming) a titanium talisman
<tattooed> (Shimmering) a dove-winged emerald lyre
You peek at the inventory:
( 2) (Glowing) (Humming) a Defender potion
( 3) a purple potion
(Glowing) (Humming) a pair of green-tinged dragonscale gauntlets
(Glowing) beautiful silver vambraces of perfection
(Humming) a silver chalice ornamented with pearls
an enriched gyvel potion
a perfect potion of recall
a Big Ol'Pack Sack (open) containing:
( 6) (Glowing) (Humming) a Defender potion
( 9) a Wayfarer's Cake
( 2) a bottle of ale
( 4) water arrows (0)
( 7) magic dust
( 4) (Humming) an energy scroll
a pair of dragonblood white-trimmed pants of pomposity
a dragonblood digging gloves
**More items are hidden underneath
a small wooden canoe
(Glowing) a cloak of concentration
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The Armory
| Nothing but a pile of ash remains.
|
|
|
*-@-* |
| |
*-*-* |
| |
* |
---------+
[Exits: east west]
<694hp 352m 428mv 19980tnl> drop sack
w
You drop a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
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A Myriad of Colors
| This place is an oddity indeed. Bright colors shimmer in
| streaks throughout the room, and seem to lift your heart.
| A great chandelier made of light blue crystal hangs from
| the ceiling, and lends the room a feeling of beauty and
@-*-*| majesty. Standing in here is almost intoxicating, so inviting
| | is the atmosphere. A fine chair covered with animal skins
*-*-*| lies off to the side, a good place to rest for those who
| | are tired. To the east lies the entrance to the inner sanctum.
* |
---------+
[Exits: east south]
(Translucent) (Pink Aura) (White Aura) Alkas is sleeping here.
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The white aura around your body fades.
<699hp 357m 439mv 19980tnl> steal sack alkas
Got it!
<699hp 357m 439mv 19980tnl> drop sack
sac sack
e
get sack
w
You drop a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
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The Overlord gives you one gold coin for your sacrifice.
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The Armory
| Nothing but a pile of ash remains.
|
|
|
*-@-* |
| |
*-*-* |
| |
* |
---------+
[Exits: east west]
A brownish leather-like Sack rests here.
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You get a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
<699hp 357m 438mv 19980tnl>
A Myriad of Colors
| This place is an oddity indeed. Bright colors shimmer in
| streaks throughout the room, and seem to lift your heart.
| A great chandelier made of light blue crystal hangs from
| the ceiling, and lends the room a feeling of beauty and
@-*-*| majesty. Standing in here is almost intoxicating, so inviting
| | is the atmosphere. A fine chair covered with animal skins
*-*-*| lies off to the side, a good place to rest for those who
| | are tired. To the east lies the entrance to the inner sanctum.
* |
---------+
[Exits: east south]
You see 2 of a scroll of flying here.
A three-eyed root stares right at you!
You see 7 of magic dust here.
A glowing icicle dagger lies here amid a patch of frost.
A pair of mithril boots have been left here.
You see 2 of a dragon's eye here.
A scroll is on the floor.
A scroll is on the floor.
A scroll is on the floor.
A scroll is on the floor.
A scroll is on the floor.
You see 2 of a wyvern's eye here.
You see 4 of an energy scroll here.
You see 6 of a Defender potion here.
A wyvern's tongue has been woven into a golden neck-chain.
You see 7 of an enriched gyvel potion here.
A dazzling white object is here.
You see 2 of a griffon's tongue here.
A recall potion is here, coveted by all.
You see 2 of a griffon's eye here.
You see 2 of a potion of detect invis here.
A holy sigil has been etched on this ribbon.
You see 2 of a purple potion here.
A pair of digging gloves have been left on the floor.
A pair of pompous-looking pants is here.
You see 2 of a bottle of ale here.
You see 4 of water arrows here.
You see 9 of a wayfarer's Cake here.
(Translucent) (Pink Aura) (White Aura) Alkas is sleeping here.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> get all.scroll
You get a scroll of flying.
You get a scroll of flying.
You get a scroll.
You get a scroll.
You get a scroll.
You get a scroll.
You get a scroll.
You get an energy scroll.
You get an energy scroll.
You get an energy scroll.
You get an energy scroll.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> get all.dust
You get magic dust.
You get magic dust.
You get magic dust.
You get magic dust.
You get magic dust.
You can't carry that many items.
You can't carry that many items.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> put all sack
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put an energy scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put an energy scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put an energy scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put an energy scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll of flying in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a scroll of flying in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a perfect potion of recall in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a water jug in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put a fiery dagger in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put an enriched gyvel potion in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> get all.dust
You get magic dust.
You get magic dust.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> put all sack
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
You put magic dust in a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> get recall sack
You get a perfect potion of recall from a Big Ol'Pack Sack.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> l alkas
Bright red hair spikes out from the top of this young mans head, swaying
and undulating in a way that seems to make the colors shift as if they were
living flame. Wrapped around his forehead he wears a simple leather band
that hides not only his hairline, but also the tip of his left ear. The
right must have slipped out, its pointed tip bearing the tell-tale signs of
his elven heritage. His eyes are a pale blue, the color of a frozen stream,
in almost paradoxical contradiction to the burning passion with which his
gaze moves about the room. His nose is relatively small and would be
nondescript if not for the bend to the right, a clear indication of the
mishap it befell sometime long past. Narrow shoulders lead to long arms and
end at rough and calloused hands. He moves about almost constantly, not
twitchy per se, but simply energetic. This same energy accompanies his
stride, as each step he seems on the verge of skipping away.
Alkas is in excellent condition.
Alkas is using:
<used as light> (Glowing) (Humming) 'Angelus', the Sceptre of Divine Virtue
<worn on finger> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration
<worn on finger> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration
<worn around neck> (Glowing) a cat's eye neck pendant
<worn around neck> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonwing mithril-white ascot of unerring flight
<worn on head> a diadem of jagged scurs
<worn on torso> thick, harrowing robes
<worn on arms> (Humming) striped sleeves of the tiger
<worn on hands> (Glowing) a pair of lethal leather gloves
<worn on legs> (Glowing) a pair of charcoal-blackened loose-fitting trousers
<worn on feet> (Glowing) (Humming) a pair of boots of conquest
<worn about body> a beautiful gown of white samite
<worn about waist> the Belt of Untamed Fury
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonwing mithril-white bangle of unerring flight
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) (Humming) a dragonblood mithril-white bangle of evisceration
<wrapped over wrist> prayer beads
<wielded two-handed> (Glowing) a yew bow
<stored in quiver> (Humming) some arrows of the Mer-Monster (25)
<floating nearby> (Glowing) (Humming) a titanium talisman
<tattooed> (Shimmering) a dove-winged emerald lyre
You peek at the inventory:
( 2) (Glowing) (Humming) a Defender potion
( 3) a purple potion
(Glowing) (Humming) a pair of green-tinged dragonscale gauntlets
(Glowing) beautiful silver vambraces of perfection
(Humming) a silver chalice ornamented with pearls
an enriched gyvel potion
a perfect potion of recall
a small wooden canoe
(Glowing) a cloak of concentration
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> pry sceptre alkas
Got it!
You lack the moral conviction to hold 'Angelus', the Sceptre of Divine Virtue and drop it.
<699hp 357m 437mv 19980tnl> sac 1.
The Overlord gives you 3 gold coins for your sacrifice.
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The white aura around Alkas fades.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl> pry cladd alkas
Got it!
You lack the moral conviction to hold a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration and drop it.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl> sac clad
pry cladd alkas
The Overlord gives you 12 gold coins for your sacrifice.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl>
Got it!
You lack the moral conviction to hold a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration and drop it.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl>
sac clad
pry pend alkas
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl>
The Overlord gives you 12 gold coins for your sacrifice.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl>
Got it!
You lack the moral conviction to hold a cat's eye neck pendant and drop it.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl> sac pend
pry ascot alkas
The Overlord gives you 2 gold coins for your sacrifice.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl>
Got it!
You lack the moral conviction to hold a dragonwing mithril-white ascot of unerring flight and drop it.
<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl> sac ascot
e
quaff recall
The Overlord gives you 12 gold coins for your sacrifice.
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The Armory
| Nothing but a pile of ash remains.
|
|
|
*-@-* |
| |
*-*-* |
| |
* |
---------+
[Exits: east west]
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You quaff a perfect potion of recall.
Temple of Balance
+-+-+-+-+| You are inside the Temple of Balance. Two tall stone pillars
| | | || hold up the overhang of the temple, shielding the worshippers
+ F + +| from the elements. You see the Temple Square to the north
| | || and a set of granite steps leading up to the altar of
+ @ *| the neutral gods. The floor of the temple has been paved
| with a grey stone.
|
|
|
---------+
[Exits: north up]
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n
who
Temple Square
+ +-*| You are standing in the Temple Square. There are statues of various
| | | gods of neutrality around you. A granite fountain is here for
+-+-+-+-+| those who are thirsty. A large temple stands to the south where
| | | || the followers who walk the neutral path can come and worship
+ F @ +| their gods. You see the North Road to the north and the inner
| | || portion of the Temple to the south.
+-F + *|
| |
+ |
---------+
[Exits: north south]
A granite fountain is here filled with water for the thirsty.
I'll admit, I tried camping by the aggro mobs so he couldn't blackjack, but that's dumb and didn't work because he just sits there with his thumb up his ass excitedly waiting for me to move away. Then I really didn't expect the tripwire inside the cabal, that seems dumb.
Neutral noncaballed halfling thief invading cabals and setting up tripwires. Real fun stuff.
ivindel 
1 , 0 , 0 . Fuck thieves. I share the same sentiments as you Alkas. BlackWidow 
0 , 0 , 0 . I thought that hiding was impossible inside the cabal?
Alkas 0 , 0 , 0 . it definitely is not impossible to hide inside the cabal. He was doing it just fine, in all of the different rooms even. Flinnegan 2 , 0 , 0 . Thieves hiding in indoor/city rooms seems OP.
[reply to Alkas]Also, the best thing a thief can pry from a monk is their prayer beads.
That yell out at the end before you quit out, I laughed so hard.
Thanks for that.
Alkas 0 , 0 , 0 . I should have done it sooner. lol But i was trying to not be a pussy and log out even though I needed to quit out for real life reasons.
[reply to Flinnegan]Also if they sac requesteable items they go right back to the mob in a matter of hours so thats really not a big deal
Lerimar 1 , 1 , 0 . how do you put weapons into sack? They pry light and steal light. What's stopping them from prying sack? They can pry weapons off your wielded easily. So easily that i'm doubting it will even fail.
Flinnegan 2 , 0 , 0 . All those pk logs from you suggest you're really active with other players and put your rares to good use <insert name of person hoarding rares and avoiding player contact>, so I can understand your frustration at the chance of losing them. tayyah 
1 , 0 , 0 . this is 100% effective. it's almost impossible to steal a worn about body. If im going to be fighting someone... like Yngfre. wear sack;put all sack. close sack. ez pz. stealing of rings and lights well thats just what a thief does. Also. Most thieves. (I don't have time to actually read the log) will not use a purple potion before they blackjack because there isnt enough time to quaff purple and still get the jump. So. thry will act without sanctuary. If you get lucky and can land a lag skill while they are unsanctuary.... Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . Lerimar you dont care about Alkas at all. He's a monk. He doesnt have weapons to put in sack. Its not even possible to go into the fight naked as you say.. that is because monks can tattoo themselves multiple times and they have stats on those tattoos. In fact it was originally considered to show those tattoos to do some of the best monk skills instead of covering them up with hit/dam items. think about that Alkas 3 , 1 , 0 . Hey I am not hoarding my shit. I am a Knight, I pk almost every time I log in.
Bladefury BANNED 0 , 0 , 0 . Agreed ^ Flinnegan 0 , 0 , 0 . Oh totally Alkas. But you and Trovo dunked me for anathema a few weeks ago, this was just an axe to grind. Trovo 1 , 0 , 0 . Flinnegan, you were anathema because you invaded multiple times and harassed valourians multiple times alongside evil players. You can justify continuous attacks because the Knights killed you all you want, it doesnt make you any less of a "neutral" thief. You claim you're doing your part by stealing from hoarding characters, but Trovo and Alkas fight every single time there is someone to fight. I personally have lost 3 con points alone from pk.
Trovo 1 , 0 , 0 . @Flinnegan Flinnegan 0 , 2 , 0 . Here's the establishment coming to tell me this is all my fault. Listen suit, just because you're in power doesn't mean you can dictate my day to day life, or punish me for living free. Trovo 2 , 0 , 0 . I got an idea! Let's all go break into someone's house and try to steal their shit then get upset that they want me dead or use deadly force against me. Because it ABSOLUTELY is not my fault that they hate me in this situation. Flinnegan 0 , 0 , 3 . Because personal possessions are more important than someones life. Life isn't all about material possessions. Share yours with me. Davairus 5 , 0 , 0 . Logboard is more entertaining than the actual steal Flinnegan 0 , 0 , 2 . I'm just trying to free all these people from the shackles of materialism, they just don't appreciate it. Trovo 1 , 0 , 0 . Hell yeah my shit's more important than someone else's life. I worked for it and the only way someone is going to steal my shit is if it's through my cold, dead fingers.
Trovo 0 , 0 , 0 . Also, I believe we've established that you're just a fuckin prick. So stop trying to justify your asshole behavior with being killed, because you invaded HOLY GROUNDS and attempted to kill a HOLY KNIGHT. From an rp standpoint, you are not neutral. ivindel 
0 , 1 , 0 . I don't see how being a "THIEF class" is a good enough justification for a neutral thief to be aggressively stealing. Does being a "WARrior class" justify a neutral warrior to go around PKing others? To me, stealing items from another player is on the same level as PK/killing. Flinnegan 0 , 0 , 4 . Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man. jaran 
2 , 0 , 0 . Ok so far in these posts we have the following suggestions:
Trovo 0 , 0 , 0 . I have no issue with a thief stealing things and being good at it. What I have an issue with is anyone initiating violence or thievery on someone and then acting like a fucking victim when things turn on them. I am not suggesting that any action be taken to alter thief skills. I would just like to point out the fallacy of Flinnegan's arguments.
Davairus 1 , 0 , 0 . Its useful to identify pain points. A material cost on tripwires (like, having to buy the supplies to use them) might be a nice add. Same for picking locks. These would bite a halflings low weight limit. Mikoos 
0 , 0 , 1 . Haha, props to Flinnegan.
Trovo 0 , 1 , 0 . You do realize the log board isn't rp enforced, right? Mikoos 
0 , 0 , 0 . Eh, they go back and forth on it. Depends who is OOC raging I guess. I’m just trying to set a standard for cabal leaders to act better.
Vhrael 
1 , 0 , 1 . @Trovo: "Hell yeah my shit's more important than someone else's life."
Davairus 2 , 0 , 0 . I think its fine to express anger however as long as no harm is done Mikoos 
0 , 0 , 0 . Sure, sure, but for a cabal leader? I don’t know. Either way people are now going to compensate when they log in. Trovo 0 , 0 , 0 . You mean that Flinnegan and I are still going to be at odds when we see each other? I dont think this conversation nullifies the history of these two characters.
Mikoos 
0 , 0 , 0 . No, that is not the point. Let’s say it’s not becoming. You’re missing the point entirely. Trovo 0 , 0 , 0 . Would you rather I out my character and express my distaste for this so that everyone knows who I am before my time has come? That seems in worse taste. Mikoos 
0 , 0 , 0 . Honestly, yeah. Mikoos 
0 , 0 , 0 . The correct method is to use idea and bug in game for discussions about mechanics. Trovo 0 , 0 , 0 . Alright, well you're welcome to do what you want when you're a cabal leader. Flinnegan 1 , 1 , 0 . Good....good....use your aggressive feelings boy, let the hate flow through you. Trovo 0 , 0 , 1 . You misspelled "I lack rp and let my true character influence how I interact in game." Flinnegan 1 , 2 , 1 . Trovo stole the rest of the world's salt, like I stole Alkas's stuff. There's none left for anyone else to be salty with. Hirendan 0 , 0 , 0 . Jes gonner say it ain’t only Knights what Flinnegan’s after. Had meself some run-ins with the wee shite meself back when meself had a nice set, eh. Davairus 1 , 0 , 0 . Mikoos does have a point that some people may later be unable to keep their conflicts in-character. We'd call that "not being cut out for a cabal". But I would like to believe at least the players we have in cabals are not like that.
[reply to Davairus]Are you hearing yourself dav? Your suggestion to prevent getting stolen is to put all your eq into your sack. I have an even better suggestion alkas, run to some corner of the realms, remove all drop all and wear your sack keeping nothing but purples inside your sack. With one sack and purples, you go into the fight naked. That sounds even more plausible because then truly you have nothing for them to steal. L O L.
Also I'll be completely honest, never even occured to me to wear the sack. Can't put rares inside of it, but that still is smart. I just never thought of it.
Also he sac'd gambled eq, which is just such a dick move.
Mostly it's just frustrating that a noncaballed, nonanathema, neutral thief is invading cabals and setting tripwires and hiding inside. Just seems like such an abuse
Why don't you just admit you're a fucking prick?
Let's also just note that my VERY FIRST interaction with you was you invading the Castle. Fuck off with your victim mentality.
Also, when someone invades my home to steal my shit, they decided right there that my stuff is more important than their life.
Make steal use 50% moves
Make tripwire only useable without adrenaline
Stop hide and tripwire working in cabal grounds
Using a thief to steal eq is equivalent to pking people and should cause outcasting (essentially what your suggesting reading between the lines).
All i can say is props to this thief because he is clearing doing his job perfectly. His job is to steal stuff, get away with it and cause utter rage. Sounds like he has it sorted.
My only issue with this particular thief is that he attacked a militant group with zero justification and then decides to play the victim when he is killed as a result. He now has a grudge against the Knights because they killed him, but that wouldn't have happened in the first place if he didn't decide to: 1) invade the cabal 2) continuously attack and steal from Knights 3) Aid evil players in killing said Knights and become anathema.
Trovo you do realize you’re still an active cabal leader, right? Probably should tone down the OOC rage a little.
I like to think there are players out there that care about their characters enough to the point of not letting an OOC show have an affect in game.
You (player), I understand that. Hopefully your character (Executor of Valour, leader of Knights) doesn't carry that completely self-centered rage.
@Vhrael From an rp standpoint, Flinnegan attacked Sacred Ground and tried to steal from anointed Knights, continuously without any kind of provocation. If that doesn't warrant enemy of valour status, I dont know what does.
Xenyar 
3 , 1 , 0 . Everybody plays AR their own way. If somebody wants to play the cowardly, steal your shit and hide just to be as annoying as possible... Then they can. jaran 
0 , 0 , 0 . Do you also believe that every other class should lose their most important abilites within a cabal ground? Just wondering. Bladefury BANNED 0 , 0 , 0 . Well said xenyar well.said. Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . no recall/hiding in grounds haha Merlandox 
1 , 0 , 0 . a steal costs 50% of moves to use. Tripwire cannot be used with adrenaline. It's dumb for a thief to run around laying trip wire until blackjack cooldown to blackjack you and steal again. So with adrenaline they shdn't be allowed to lay that shit to stop people from chasing them. Xenyar 
0 , 0 , 0 . What makes a lot of sense is riding a nightmare stallion and getting tripwired. A damn horse should plow right through a tiny wire. And flying should fly you over it. meh... Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . we have air tripwires because nycticora said 'its like the ewoks from return of the jedi' and there will always be air tripwires because of that Xenyar 
0 , 0 , 0 . ........and what about the mounted part? Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . I wouldn't think a dark-knight stands the most to gain from that, because it would also benefit all of the Knights, i.e. ensures all of their foes stay better armored. Another thought though - who is to say the dark-knight isn't a class that the steal ability couldn't *also* belong on? The class theme is pain and suffering and this skill obviously brings it to the table in abundance. "Stealer" is in fact a dark-knight title as well. I wouldnt be surprised if they had it before and someone removed it
[reply to Bladefury]It just means they are a piece of shit, overcompensating for a small pp.
Hey i wasnt the one who complained and complained until confine got removed
BlackWidow 
0 , 0 , 0 . There's no need for monks like Alkas to use that because they have sense motion and gong. That comment seems out of place... Were you thinking Alkas was a paladin or something? Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . The fog would last much longer versus flushing him out once. Merlandox 
0 , 0 , 1 . I also think faerie fog and faerie fire shouldn't have resistance checks. That will stop all the camouflage, hide etc etc and all other crap from having a get out of jail free card. Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . Those suggestions are crazy but they are indicative of something that goes much deeper. Do you realize it, Merlandox? As you run around with all that pent-up anger you have, mindlessly playing an illusionist so OP that nobody stays logged in, does it still not occur to you why the thief skills are so reliable and easy. You're saying your OP illusionist should have a faerie fog that always works and looking like a retard. Remember when you were spamming wrath was OP? I know that is not a satisfactory answer for you but the fact you are even making suggestions that ridiculous tells me you aren't really interested in a good solution Merlandox 
0 , 0 , 0 . Why would u think i am making ridiculous suggestions? If i was the thief, i would be wearing a 100 save vs mal to go steal. Who's going to flush me out? Nobody that doesnt have a detect hidden skill. Flinnegan may or may not be doing that but i have experienced othernl thieves doing that in the past.
Merlandox 
0 , 0 , 0 . Maybe it the penalty should come from pry instead of steal. Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . You're right, I shouldn't have said ridiculous. PREPOSTEROUS was the word I was looking for.
[reply to Fionn]I'm not having pent up anger. I'm riding on others pent up anger to tell u thieves stealing shit for free is dumb. It has nothing to do with anything else. He steals a dragonscale ring, that is 4hrs gone from a winter run without him having any risk of dying to get the steal.
If a thief just wants to steal, he lays trip wire everywhere while he runs. If I'm not wrong, when u get tripwired blackjack hits easily. How do you chase and kill the thief? If you're telling me to track him so fast that he can lay tripwires I'll tell u its impossible. By making moves penalty per steal it'll limit the number of items he will try to steal instead of pry light pry neck pry ring pri wristlets and laugh at u.
I also genuinely feel like neutral halfling thieves are given a LOT of leeway on rp standards. Not just Flinnegan but all of them. Their rp is almost always "annoying asshole" which isn't something that would be allowed for most other characters. They also often blackjack and steal repeatedly from the same char, something that IMO borders on multikilling, which is a big bad offense against the rules, but is never even blinked at when a halfling thief does it. Granted it is different, they aren't killing anyone, but it feels similar to the victim I think.
The very nature of this game means that sometimes people are going to have fun at the expense of other people. This also means that some people are not going to have fun. But it is a give and take situation where everyone is afforded the chance to enjoy themselves, and even the "loser" can still have fun in the right circumstance. These thieves, imo, are the biggest aspect of the game where everyone is having absolutely no fun at all, except the thief themselves. It is the biggest detriment to communal fun in the entire game. Evidenced by the continued and repeated response on logboards.
I'd like to think that that isn't something the game creators would be proud of, but the Imms consistently defend the thieves with more voracity than I've ever seen them defend anyone/anything else.
Rilodilo 2 , 1 , 0 . Seems a bit nutty that halfling thieves get racial legacies too. Do they really need help to be more annoying than they already are? Davairus 0 , 1 , 0 . You are mistaken thinking everyone isnt having fun. This thread is great fun. All because a gambled ring got sacced. I bet you already replaced them too hamsandwich 
0 , 0 , 0 . I don't think it's about the gear. It's about being frustrated and not having fun. And maybe I am mistaken thinking everyone isn't having fun. But it is very clear that a great deal of people agree with me, if not everyone.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . This isn't a "big deal". This is just a flamefest. If we had a logboard wasteland we'd have chucked this thread in it. There's a load of drama and absurd suggestions we could never implement, heaped on top of what is primarily a vent. The sum of those parts is a smokescreen over anything rational. Someone saying "i'm gonna take my ball and go home" for instance is being unreasonable.
[reply to hamsandwich]I just know that this same topic has come up a couple of times recently, and it's always turned into a big deal. Which means that it is a big deal. It's silly to suggest otherwise.
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Flinnegan 1 , 0 , 1 . You were offered a compromise, which you rolled your eyes at. Pride goeth before the fall.
[reply to Alkas]I also think that hiding in a cabal should be 100 times harder than hiding elsewhere if possible at all. I also think the multi tool that is a thief is very diverse and easy to deploy currently. Was shocked as hell when I ended up with 8 hours of silence, for example.
Kornhole 
0 , 0 , 0 . Fygh did you have the pleasure of playing against a thief when they had gag? Fygh 0 , 0 , 0 . Don't they still have it? I was under the impression thats the reason I was silenced. It really is brutal for someone who is rendered absolutely useless with it. Garv 1 , 0 , 0 . Kind of like when you're terrained and misdirected you mean? tayyah 
0 , 0 , 0 . fygh you were poisoned Merlandox 
0 , 0 , 0 . Oh btw guys, you can hide in cabal but if you duel in the arena (ford) and you ran all the way to the keeper's cabal, you cant hide in there. It seems the arena is more protected than cabam grounds. Lol! Fygh 0 , 0 , 0 . Poison, interesting.
BlackWidow 
0 , 0 , 0 . Silence? Sounds to me like somebody drugged you (thieves have a skill called "drug other").
[reply to Fygh]Garv, with misdirection and terrain you can still fight. I have won with those two affects active more than once. As a caster, you literally can't fight with silence. You just run and hope that you can lose them or have enough moves to outrun them.
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . Jaran its time to update your list! Nadrin 0 , 0 , 0 . Just going to mention that I have not been on the receiving end of cabal hiding or any shit like that. Just seems silly to be able to hide in enemy cabals. Where are they going to hide, there is nothing in them! Davairus 1 , 0 , 0 . Consider six months from now, when this thread has blown over, and you're thinking of making a ninja Legion coz Ygin was cool back in the day. Well guess what ! You can't hide in cabals. Sorry! Like, I get you mean well, but this is some knee-jerk shit by any measure Bladefury BANNED 0 , 0 , 0 . Besides its your cabal you know every inch of it so they can't hide anyway Phostan 
0 , 0 , 0 . Bladefurry never played hide and seek as a child, based off this statement.
[reply to Nadrin]No hiding/camo in arena duels
Make steal use 50% moves
Make tripwire only useable without adrenaline
Stop hide and tripwire working in cabal grounds
Using a thief to steal eq is equivalent to pking people and should cause outcasting (essentially what your suggesting reading between the lines)
jaran 
0 , 0 , 0 . Forgot one more thing:
[reply to jaran]faerie fog and faerie fire shouldn't have resistance checks
Davairus 0 , 0 , 0 . sidestep is better though. same damage no saves
[reply to Kedaleam]Cheap shot
Drug other
Hook shot
Disguise
If tripwire is going to require materials to use, I think enchanting and other popular spells like Heaven's Gate or gate should have materials required.
Davairus 1 , 1 , 0 . maybe half-serious but sometimes a good idea comes out of being half-serious. i feel like DK getting steal could be legit good change. lets them partner with thief to improve both peoples game (adds invis and detect invis). it follows to add faerie fire to the DK for even better thief synergy. anyway i'm rambling on. But we will definitely do the pathways for thief down the road Kornhole 
0 , 0 , 0 . Fucking shit people, stop with the fucking specs, cant we leave SOME of the classes as they were? Serra 0 , 0 , 0 . Heaven's gate already requires building three levels of divine power (max). I don't think collecting a bunch of rocks to build an actual gate would be helpful. Arunore 
0 , 0 , 0 . I like this
Xenyar 
1 , 0 , 0 . I LOVE DK's but... Between Eurayel and Euriah(my paladin from yrs ago.).... DK>Paladin in soooo many ways. Unholy strength is easy-peasy upkeep. Paladin damage buff upkeep is, at best, half ass in comparison... reduced parry..losing time/mana to heal yourself from divine sac. I'm not saying nerf DK. I'm saying maybe give Pally something nice instead of DK. Don't give dk's steal too.
Davairus 1 , 0 , 0 . maybe cure light on the lawful dk, steal on the chaotic, and the nightmare casting faerie fire. altogether it works I think. I'm not putting a lot of thought into that right now, just musing. Flinnegan 0 , 0 , 0 . Thanks Arunore. Always glad to see people who appreciate my art.
[reply to Arunore]You rock Flin
Anyway....Maybe give blackjack a very slight wind up lag?
Paladins are actively being worked on, which includes a lot of recent changes that have helped them out a lot. They have gotten quite a bit better over the last two months already
just sit in a closable room (preferably no_pass and lockable with key that you have, something like crevice in tainted) and the thief can never initiate on you...
So much fucking QQ, I'd expect EXECUTOR and ARCHON ranked people to know better
Davairus 2 , 0 , 0 . I agree with this sentiment mostly, but there is a 5%-15% factor of "ooo that really sucked" which exists even in my black heart. Its because the gambled item cost hundreds of thousands (sometimes into millions) of gold. The system will currently allow you to pry the item, but then it would slip from your fingers because of alignment, and then you'd just sac it because you can't use it (quite ruthless IMO).
[reply to maeve]<708hp 360m 439mv 19980tnl> pry claddagh alkas
Got it!
You lack the moral conviction to hold a dragonblood mithril-white claddagh of evisceration and drop it.
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sac clad
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The Overlord gives you 12 gold coins for your sacrifice.
That is not an opal ring (definitely wouldnt get pried). or a heavy black dragon scale ring (definitely wouldnt get sacced). Its an in-between. I know we all like high stakes but I think the "fun" far exceeds the "anti-fun" for the level 50 evermore gamble items. These items could never have been foreseen when pry was created. I think it is worth thinking about something different for pry/steals for this gambled eq.
Its the same going for sacks. Sacks used to be just potions, you would put in your raft and it becomes so heavy and annoying to steal its not that worth it. They are now just as easy to steal and full of tons of evermore shit. That seems a bit... cheesy? Inventory weapons are as important as the wielded weapons because of combat styles bullshit as well. That was not in the design of pry either. Happy to do something about these scenarios.
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