Entrapment

[Bones V2.0]

I always thought that the Justice remaining visable in town was a good idea, as well as a show of "power".

True that the law must be enforced, and all characters have some benefit from exploiting the Justices' service, but enforcing the laws through fear needs to go.

To be effective as a whole, Justice needs to command respect for their services, and flagging while invis, or sitting invis in town undermines that principal. Though easily circumvented, Justices who are in effect "hiding" personally makes me think they are ineffective at upholding their obligations, or are promoting the law to be broken, both of which are the antithesis of what the Cabal is all about.

Or I could be way off.

[Mr Carbohydrate]

Quote : "This is all really a moot point. Even if a justice cannot flag you while he/she is invis, the justice could still just go vis to flag you. "

I was a bit careless with my wording. What I was suggesting is that justices should have to be visible when they witness a crime (as it used to be), not for the actual act of flagging.

[Vertas]

[Green Elephant]

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, two lawfull witnesses to a crime is enough for a flag. Unless that has changed, it looks like you did the right thing.

[Drengar]

[theobserver]

Yeah when Justices are allowed to turn into detectives and deduce who did the crime, it usually results in a nice big pile of doggie poop for whatever Immortal is unfortane to be around at the time.

But bored Justices have been hiding in the Drunken Scribe or outside the west gate for someone to start a fight for months now. Letting them go invisible is not that big a deal.

[Sebryn]

[Gruagg]

In my opinion, Justice has always been a police force out in the open. Not a secret police. If you are visible, this is going to prevent all the neutral types from not attacking (neutral as in ethos, not alignment). Preventing crime (I would imagine this is a goal of Justice, correct me if I'm wrong). Insteading laying in wait, while invisible encourages only one thing. More loot for the justice, because instead of said crime happening/persong bein wanted, killed, looted. Said crime never happens because they see the justice present in town

[Seryie]

From personal experiance, sitting in the open does exactly what you say it does... No one under 50 commits any crimes and when I was Justice, there was a lack of 50's so nothing happened for 16 hours straight while I sat at north square.... I leave town for two seconds to go get some eq and someone tells you 'Town!' you head back, you missed the yell and then nothing happens. It's fun being a Justice when people have the balls the break laws, but yea... I'd rather be invis and have someone break a crime than sitting visable with nothing going on, fun value goes through the floor otherwise. Alas you know what your signing yourself up for when you apply and thats the downside to it.

[Louis]

the converse is also true. have the balls to piss people off out of town and they may get mad and declare war on you. anyway these days i've seen quite a few people running around wanted. the justice cabal just isn't respected enough right now ~ every cabal fluctuates though with warlords being one of the more consistent ones and when justice makes a comeback, the game is sure to change for everyone.