Retire/Con-die at 50

[Ceridwel]

This idea just came to me and I haven't thought it through. So no flames at me for not thinking it through. Why? Because I haven't thought it through.

If a character con-dies at 50, assuming they didn't condie on purpose like that assclown a few months ago, they have the choice to roll x% of their total experience points into their next character. In another mud I played, if you died for the last time under specific circumstances (which I can't remember right now, do you Res?) your next character would start at 1/2 your levels +1. So if were level 18 when you died the final time, your next char could start at level 10.

Alternate idea, you don't need to condie, but you can choose to 'Retire' your pinnacled character and have some benefits towards your next character. Heck, maybe not even reserve this for just pinnacles.

The downside to starting a new character at > rank 1 is you have slightly less time to have practiced your skills. But maybe this is an appropriate downside to the bonus of starting at rank 1+x.

Discuss. Flame. Lick my short-haired Riverwood beaver.

[rabidgecko]

only problem I can see with this is the ooc

[Ceridwel]

[Erlwith]

Meh, I like the idea of rewarding people who condie, but this is terribly OOC. They're two different chars that didn't even exist during the same time, so I don't see how one could manipulate the other.

Also, what is the balance/RP logic behind this? Seems like a good idea for other places but completely wrong for this game. Not to mention 1-30 is like a surge night. Why is there a need to make the early 'grind' easier? In fact, if I could say there's one thing absolutely not wrong with AR it's how easy it is to level up.

[rabidgecko]

Well, each character is a separate entity in terms of roleplay. Having one gain levels because of another character played before violates that in my view

[Ceridwel]

Hmm, good points.

I still think rewarding an honest condeath is a neat idea. How to implement it though...

[Resatimm]

This is called 'remorting' if I recall.

On our MUD Iolo, I cant remember what it was called, but you are right, half levels + 1.

I think that remorting has been brought up a few times, and was shot down pretty quickly. Some look at it as the mud being unpure, or not classic with remorting. Its so easy to rank on DIKUs that it would save you what, 4 or 5 hard hours to rank to level 26?

On our old mud, it was a god send, because you remember, it was a REAL year between levels at some points, because of the 1.5 MILLION tnl and 50xp per mob.

Oh wait. Now I remember:

It was your race/class, levels/2 +1, the TOTAL XP FROM THAT RACE/CLASS combo applied to your new character. So if you went from an elf paladin on AR, you could be a level 34 or 35 human warrior. Etc etc.

[Amdorin]

Seems cool for certain games. I don't think it would fit with AR's current theme.

Condeath is respected in and of itself if you stuck it out to that end without suiciding it off.

This game tends to reward the life of the character rather than the player's future endeavors for playing to condeath. "Mobbing" the char into a permanent member of the game for example, or adding them to memorials and things that transcend mortality are a lot more rewarding as the intent is to reward the time you invested in the char's life rather than getting a heads up on your next.

[Insom]

Ranking on AR, no matter how tedious you think it is, it is a real breeze. I remember playing a mud called Quest for Mordor where each death would result in 25% loss in total xps and you dropped to that particular level. Also you needed the same corresponding gold pieces in order to get your guildmaster to level you. One particular death at level 20 dropped me 1.2 million xps and 1.5 million in gold pieces and as well as dropped me to level 18. Another subsequent death dropped me to level 16....Just imagine on AR if you lost xp and levels while ranking? You would never make it to 50 if someone kept screwing with you while you are solo ranking.

[rabidgecko]

We don't play Quest for Mordor. We play AR for a reason

[Vertas]

I remember having some of my first characters with 80k plus tnl due to mob deaths.. I'm just thankful we got rid of those holes.

[Davairus]

[Stephen2_Aust]

Apologies if this should be in the "Issues that matter" thread.

Davairus, you just touched on one of the most fun, and I think increasingly important things the MUD has done recently.

Quests which show newbies how to do things.

With a low player base and less people around to teach the newbies, these quests are fantastic. They're instructive, engaging and fun. They keep the new players hooked and also teach them enough vital information so that they can get started into AR.

You can't teach PK via quests, although, maybe certain guilds can have quests: You must kill a member of the Paladin guild etc... Hrm, I like it.

Anyway, the other quests you were talking about: black-tear, fiery etc.. I think it would be absolutely great if it were possible to have many more quests that teach important things.

Great idea Dav, I support that as an Issue that matters most right now.

[Davairus]

Yes, I already made some quests like that, but obviously a lot more are needed, and its just... extremely tiring to write them. Hoping for them to be able to learn some stuff on their own. I'm not sure pointing newbs to damroll gear is good idea at all, they'd likely die a lot trying. Groups help player learn about the monster pots. So those are things I think best left to experience. The mercenaries make a big difference to levelling though. I should probably have had that quest lending mercenaries to players instead of gold coins. We just didnt have the technology to do it at the time I wrote the quest, still dont really, but I could make it.

[Viggs]

Ok so what happens to the persons soul after the 61st death ,, You got to keep you soul through all those deaths then its gone? yes it could be that or it could transfer in some magical way to your next char, and you would have to use some form of your old name so you can have some sort of legecy .. or no name but you could regain one or two memorys from your passed life ,like if your this great and powerful wizard but you die once to many and your next life is oh i dont know lets say a thief ,, well then you could remember one or two things from your great and glorious wizard life and BAM we now offically have a clearly thought out and well balanced way for Thiefs to have motherfuckinggoddamned Hellstream Hell ya We did It ,, YEAAAAA holy shit I need a tylanol

[Ceridwel]