Druid

[Resatimm]

Well for one thing, their spell TORNADO was essentially a tiny bit weaker version of area effect Hellstream.

And thats just the beginning.

[Groq]

Tornado was a bit like hellstream, they had spells so you couldn't lag them. They had ranger like pets, they could make a druid staff that was bad ass, decent defenses, healing spells.. lots of stuff. You could sit around naked tornadoing with a druid and never die you were smart.

[Ergorion]

Is there anywhere where their skill/spell list is still around? I too was not around for the days of the druid. And I think if you (the imms) want any help/ideas for how to deal with druids, then I think you should post their skills/spells somewhere so that we can build off that so that the new druids resemble the old druids but are more balanced.

[Xerties]

[Ergorion]

Thanks Xerties.

[Master]

Enhance damage and throw seem a bit incongruous.

[Olyn]

they threw the potions that they brewed

[Mandor]

flash of genius.

make a cleric type that is generic, can be any alignment, but lacks the anti-alignment spells. has healing, relies on weapon damage, among other things, but has some mals and/or mentals unique to it.

I always think its odd Shaman get to be lawful. I disagree on that, since their devotion to the god of death and chaos would be opposed to law, but removing their ability to be lawful and in justice might gimp justices, unless there's a generic healer/mal casting/weapon dmg type that can be any alignment, or at least neutral and evil.

[crazyhorse]

Define: Shaman = in societies practicing shamanism: one acting as a medium between the visible and spirit worlds; practices sorcery for healing or divination
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn


God of death and chaos? Jesus christ I hate you people.

[Mandor]

okay...

you looked up a real world definition of shaman, and this pertains to a game where we can make our own definitions of a fantasy world, how?

[Tiqa]

I agree with Crazyhorse. It's not odd if Shamans are lawful.

When I see a shaman in the game, my heart beats fast and my typing fingers go wobbly and numb. In general, they are evil, scary, unpredictable beings to be avoided at all costs.

However, as Crazyhorse correctly points out Shaman are the go-to point between the earthly and spirit worlds. Shaman were healers in tribes and used their magic potions and communing with the spirit world to heal. Healing is good and noble. They must have obeyed all sorts of laws of the science and laws of the gods to enable them to formulate potions and summon the netherworld forces, ergo...can be lawful.

I made a lawful Shaman but it didn't work out so good because I can't fight very well and couldn't get up the nerve to just going around killing people.

On the other hand, they do get a bad rap. I remembering being new and met a Shaman who was a Mystic and I didn't understand that Mystics were friendly and wouldn't kill me........I ran for my life! Maybe Mystics shouldn't be Shaman?

PS Mandor snuck in a post inbetween when I was responding to the last posts. He's right though, we should follow the AR definition of Shaman. Wasn't this conversation about Druids?

[crazyhorse]

So death... I kind of give you. Prophets of death... meh.

Chaos...? Your entire point...?

I went to real life description because I assumed thats where you were getting your skewed views of shaman.


Now, I think I have stumbled upon a bit of irony here. I believe you are taking the word "evil", and thinking it means the word "chaotic". In real life terms... Well thats mostly true. In la la land, there is a very clear separation between the two. That makes me giggle. And if thats not what you did, please please please tell me how the helpfile helps your point at all.

"and this pertains to a game where we can make our own definitions of a fantasy world, how?"

[Mandor]

/facepalms.