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Voltron
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: Quick Wield |
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Does the skill even do anything anymore? |
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Thorgoth Immortal
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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It lets you wield..quickly... |
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Vevier Immortal
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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I tried looking at the thread on weapon style changes, but it didn't tell me if what I thought was right actually was. I would assume that quick weild prevents you from having to wait out the lag for weapon style change? Not sure, don't quote me on that. |
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Thorgoth Immortal
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Ok I'll answer honestly. Quick wield lets you gain weapon/combat advantage quicker than others. Normally when you change with a warrior it takes atleast two rounds for the advantage to kick in, but with quick wield it's instantaneous. |
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Voltron
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:26 am Post subject: |
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I always say thanks when I get my questions answered. But you make it hard pip. Wtf? Why couldn't you have just said that the first time?
Turns out you were right then Vevier. |
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Thorgoth Immortal
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Sheesh Mr. Sensitive |
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Vevier Immortal
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for confirming, Pip. |
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Tepesh
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:42 am Post subject: |
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from my xp its not instant but only 1 round before you get while with warriors its two |
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Thorgoth Immortal
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Was yours mastered Tepesh? |
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Tepesh
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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100% quick wield |
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Voltron
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I remember from a previous character that quick wield was mastered automatically. I think it was a ranger.. With my current character it needs to be practiced. Did you actually master yours Tepesh or did it start that way? |
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Dispater
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 780 Location: Far side of the internet!
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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It allows you to wield a fiery dagger more quickly when in combat against the powerful trash pkers! |
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Tepesh
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I had to practice it and then train it to get it to 100% not that hard to master your just gonna need time. |
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geadin
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Tepesh
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: |
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look how old the topic is let alone all the changes and tweak done. When that thread came out no matter what you did it never went up that is why. Now that it does improve dont you think it wouldnt stay the same? |
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Ceridwel Immortal
Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 3385 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:02 am Post subject: |
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I like how you posted this in the Newbie forum Voltron. You're such a newbie! |
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geadin
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:33 am Post subject: |
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that is an valid argument, but consider the dates involved. on Jan 21 2009 quick wield was working like it was mastered, then on Feb 22 2010 it starts improving. I can't find any reason for this other than dav decided to put in the one liner (check_improve()). I also can't find any updates saying why it improves. regardless, quick wield is changed AGAIN on Oct 14 2010. now it just shortens the duration of advantages.
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* You will not gain your combat advantage until a round or two after swapping the weapon (this duration is lowered by quick wield) ... your opponent will still percieve you as in an advantaged state via his prompt, as this information is important to give him the opportunity to decide what his next move is. But really you are waiting out the intermediate state.
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also keep in mind that inside of check_improve() you can get the message 'you learn from your mistakes and your skill improves'. anyway, the affect of quick wield isn't seen until after 1 round. You don't see things like *you switch your weapon* *round goes by* *your quick wield improves!* you see improvements when you wield the weapon right? in either case I'm just going to say that I think it's static set to give you 1 round of 'neutral state' of advantages. |
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