I know this has been said before.

[Shad0w]

I just wanted to re-iterate the fact that there's only 1 Keeper, and no applicants. No one truly wants to play a Keeper, if you don't want to bring back Warlords, at least make something better. Just my opinion.

[Esivole]

Keepers have their place. I think that it is more of a player base issue as opposed to cabal type issue. More players = more keeper targets presumably. More people to fight would mean more people might want to roll a keeper, myself included. Keepers need something to do at 50, since you can't rare hunt. Gold farming is just stupid after a while and their gambling sucks (last I saw.) that being said, have you played a keeper? if not, try it. I learned the rp aspect of it and now appreciate at least that part of the cabal.

[Stiehl26]

[Olyn]

Warlords have been back for a while now. 'help strife' Unless you meant you just wanted to have overpowered forms, then no.

[Ergorion]

[Fireballer]

[Ergorion]

[Fireballer]

I meant the neutral-neutral bit. people like their bloodthirst and revenge.

[Dispater]

Nothing to do as a Keeper really, not too many targets and no gear hunting, basically you don't have ANYTHING to do but wait for the #1-#2 top rated people to pop by.

[Ergorion]

[Ceridwel]

I've often wondered lately (for months now) how Thera can be in Balance with just one Keeper. How is that bit calculated?

[Ergorion]

[Ceridwel]

Its almost impossible to capture an opposing cabal's item solo now since the changes were made to the cabal guardians. We'd see more of it if those changes were rolled back, but I'm sure they're in there for a reason.

[Ergorion]

[Olyn]

Ill look into the item capture sometime soon. That needs to be a viable option for solo cabal members. Without looking, I'd guess the pendulum defaults to Keepers when no cabal is deserving of the tag.

[Fireballer]

http://abandonedrealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3752&highlight=curse+cabal

excerpt:

[Ergorion]

Only the first guardian casts the spells and only the keeper one kicks dirt. It's not that bad.

[Fireballer]

I think what he meant is that, by inviting a dispel, you're opening yourself to another player's dirt kick, at which point the guardian and a player will hose you.

[Hrimoyan]

Keeper is still the least understood cabal, mostly because it's the newest and it's priorities have shifted slightly.

Keeper goes after people based on their lethality, their rating. This is the primary indicator to who gets hunted, as opposed to just being rared out as it once was. This shift has fixed some of the issues such as having to chase after really really old characters who have simply acquired a bunch of unique items, ex. Noliperous. This also leads to a Keeper not having much to do on a regulary basis because their target focus has been narrowed. It's the best cabal for casual play and wanting to log on and fight the strongest people in game right away though.

For those reasons and the scenarios that you can find yourself in, Keeper isn't noob friendly by any means, and the denouncement of rare eq filters out the majority of the stage 2-3 playerbase. One of the pros to Keeper is that you don't have to be on all the time to keep wares, in that regard things are a little more lax, but for that to be tolerable you must be an efficient fighter.

The other thing about Thera being in balance is that typically there's only one to three dominant characters in a generation at a time, so there isn't a need for a full fortress of Keepers, though the current number, 1, is still low. We're pretty much a group of assassins dedicated to preserving the balance against elongated periods of other-cabal dominance.