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Wave Churner: Now a staff

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:56 am    Post subject: Wave Churner: Now a staff

Wave churner is a staff now.
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Andrael



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject:

why?
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Fireballe2



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:23 pm    Post subject:

access for a non-exotic weapon vuln to more than just a few classes, I suppose. Plus, wasn't it oversized as well? I think Im going to enjoy hosing down the dwarf and duergar zerks with a staff. Laughing
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Andrael



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject:

it was oversized, but that was nothing to giants and minos, now jotun. More so, they could have removed the oversized, there was still the staff of storms. Now two staffs that do a 'drowning' effect.
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Fireballe2



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject:

giants and minos aren't the only races that exist.

also, it changes the format of segment exploiting shaft to shaft on shaft.
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Andrael



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject:

Mmm, so now just be defensive and sideswipe all the day long
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Frostburns



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject:

Sheesh, nobody else remembers the water cube was there all along? Lol.
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Fireballe2



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:01 am    Post subject:

as an exotic, it's a leveller. With a flail water that's oversize, imagine how easy it is for a giant to exploit non-flail using dwarvies.
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Olyn
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:38 am    Post subject:

Don't all available classes for dwarf get flail?
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Esivole
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:40 am    Post subject:

oh course every dwarf can use flails. As a seperate thought, does this staff remove staff of storms, or does it still exist as a strict upgrade?
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Davairus
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:52 am    Post subject:

An uncommon two-handed flail hitting a vuln with magic damage is a little too powerful, that's why its a staff.

-> two-handed = big damage bonus
-> vuln = big-damage bonus
-> magic = good armor stat gets ignored
-> flail = crazy attack rating, like whip
-> uncommon = every tom dick and harry has one

That's too much.
I just removed flail from that equation.

It does affect who gets to use it. That is also a motivator. You dont have to worry about illus, healer and shaman hitting vulns as much s you do with every warrior.

I still think this is too powerful, but at least a staff I can live with.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:03 am    Post subject:

I forgot healers were given flail somewhat recently.

berserkers don't get staff, so, warriors, time to rape some dwarf butt with an easy to get water stick.
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Andrael



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:33 pm    Post subject:

Fireballe2 wrote:
I forgot healers were given flail somewhat recently.

berserkers don't get staff, so, warriors, time to rape some dwarf butt with an easy to get water stick.


Healers and shamans had flail since I started playing again in like, late December of 2012 early January 2013... sorry to say, that ain't recent.
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Fireballe2



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:47 pm    Post subject:

that's recent if you remember 2005-6.
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kammkala6



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:25 am    Post subject:

Now its kind of useless, staff of storms (avg 22) is not hard to get. Why would anyone use a much weaker churner (avg 15)? Unless people think not counting towards rare limit is enough to justify a weapon so much weaker.
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Fireballe2



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:32 am    Post subject:

are you going to get the staff of storms on your level 25?
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Dogran
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:41 am    Post subject:

Fireballe2 wrote:
are you going to get the staff of storms on your level 25?


+1
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Andrael



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:35 am    Post subject:

Also gives keepers another weapon to use, and ninja's too. Think of that drowning clobber against a dwarf. Mmm, I smell dwarven bacon in the air.
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