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Hitroll on illusionists?

 
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raginggnome



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:08 am    Post subject: Hitroll on illusionists?

Hey, I was just curious if hitroll is worth building on an illusionist versus pure hp gear?
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Ergorion



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:46 am    Post subject:

Short answer: yes.

Dreamstruck can destroy someone's saves and make the terrain/misdirect combo butter. You just have to stay alive for it. More rng intense. Higher risk higher reward.
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Merlandox



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:48 am    Post subject:

Raginggnome, that depends on your gear actually. You need high hitroll and somewhat high hp too. There is no point having huge dreamstruck but you have to run in 4 rounds. The base hp of illusionist is really low. With really really high end gear, dreamstruck is deadly. You got to explore the available gear though. Get creative! Very Happy
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Kedaleam
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:34 am    Post subject:

My take on most of it is, as any spell caster you want to stack HP to deal out the damage. But it's been ages since I've played any spellcaster, so I don't know a ton. Back in the day I stacked hitrolll and would do an absolutely ridiculous amount of damage and I loved it; made my day really... However, As much damage you could maybe deal yourself, as an illusionist, your illusions deal a ton more. So I always thought, personally, that Health is a better priority. If you can stay in the fight longer, then the more damage illusions do.

Might want to talk to the other folks about exact details.
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Ergorion



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:38 pm    Post subject:

I think the hitroll versus hp debate depends a lot on playstyle. I feel like a Ranix would load hitroll and try to steamroll you in 4 rounds while you had your pants down. Whereas a pip would load health and skirmish with you for an hour until you made a mistake.

As Merlandox said you're going to need high hitroll to make it work. There's not really a viable mid-ground if you go the hitroll route. 30 hitroll is not going to cut it. You need to be at the very least 40+. While on the hp side of things you'll be ok if you have +150hp eq and only get better as you get to 300 and beyond.
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Merlandox



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject:

It used to be much better if you stack grandeur. You can get +12 from grandeur if you do it right. However, there's a bug with it that grandeur stacks doesn't refresh properly. So currently it is a little more difficult to have high hitroll on illusionist. Not un-doable though.
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Olyn
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject:

Has the bug been reported?
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Merlandox



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:32 am    Post subject:

Yeah I did. Since I was on Sevaush.
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