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Ceridwel Immortal
Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 3385 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:22 am Post subject: |
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There is 0% reason to bash another player in this discussion. Doing so just breeds resentment and risks the bashee not wanting to come back. I will censor that shit all. Day. Long. |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10351 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:51 am Post subject: |
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The rage damage is aggregated. I wouldn't rage or use any other skill that didn't turn out better than flee murder. If that lesson hasn't sunken in yet, let it. Consider for example how much damroll you can get on an invoker and why on earth would you bother to use flame arrow (dismember, saves involved) when you could flee-murder and get two massacres. Losing flee is a BIG DEAL.
I observe you guys all the time and I watch you having no idea how to trade murders properly nowadays. Those few people that get it are always the top 5. |
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Nycticora
Joined: 09 Feb 2013 Posts: 2277
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:20 am Post subject: |
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I've seen trolling and that's not it
re-validated that comment, please ease up a little this is the battlefield not the graveyard
Otif: I realize we're not quite friends and we play this game to fight each other. A bit of healthy fighting is a good thing to have on the forum between people that engage in this much conflict, but keep it respectful dude. There's no need for that kind of bullshit and it really came out of left field. It's not like the guy hacked your account. why are you so pissed off |
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Taleroth Immortal
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 303 Location: Ivory Tower
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:45 am Post subject: |
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How about a berserker unable to switch weapons when they are in rage? |
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Ergorion
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 2156
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they can switch weapons. If they're disarmed, they can re-wield any weapon they want.
Also, Dav, if the way to #win is to flee/murder, then that would mean staying in the fight would get you killed. Using a lag skill keeps you in the fight, which would get you killed. So why take that opportunity away from people? |
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Clifton
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 530
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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A raged berserkers option to change weapons is to throw the primary and change. |
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Oxyl
Joined: 17 Oct 2012 Posts: 127
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Other ideas for balancing Warriors better that I think still stick to their rp/class 'feel':
1) Decrease the lag time on their skills like overhead crush and sideswipe. They're masters of combat right, so they'd be more proficient than anyone at recovering from those special attacks.
2) Make berserk movement based instead of mana based. This fits nicely with athleticism. |
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Ergorion
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 2156
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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This isn't a warrior vs. berserker debate. It's a berserker being unable to be lagged debate which gets sprinkled in with some other stuff.
After chatting with Ranix, I realize there really aren't that many situations where you would want to lag a raged berserker. The one that does come to mind, however, is to prevent him from berserking. |
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Andrael
Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 779
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 12:49 am Post subject: |
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How to beat a berserker. be a healer or a bard, use calm or broken spirit before rage, win. Simple, no? |
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Kato
Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Posts: 219
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 1:24 am Post subject: |
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doesn't mania prevent that? |
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m1coftw
Joined: 05 May 2015 Posts: 265
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 2:18 am Post subject: |
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if you believe the helpfile |
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Andrael
Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 779
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:11 am Post subject: |
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that is only when mania and raged is combined. if there is only mania or only rage, then no. |
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Andrael
Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 779
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:11 am Post subject: |
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and it will remove mania or rage from the target, and prevent them from berserking as well. |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10351 Location: 0x0000
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Ergorion
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 2156
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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That's a poor example because mobs cannot be lagged by others or themselves. If that were a player, he would have done 1/3 to 1/6 the number of those overheads. |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10351 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I know this. How's it taste? |
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Ergorion
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 2156
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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It tastes like a player posting a log of getting TKO'd by dragon breath and wanting to nerf it. |
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Faelon Emissary
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 938 Location: Your moms house.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Taste's like fish tacos. |
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ottif
Joined: 08 Jan 2015 Posts: 310
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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which dont really taste like fish |
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