actively practicing skills vs. ranking

[deauja]

when i am using skills like kick and developing the skill for the weapon i am wielding do i learn more if i fight difficult mobs, or would i learn my skills at the same rate fighting mobs that give me little to no XP?

[Vhrael]

Improving skills/spells is affected by quite a few things, but the first thing is that skills/spells will improve the quickest at higher levels, i.e. you'll learn more quickly at rank 50 than you will at rank 15.

That being said, skill/spell improving is also affected by the rank difference of what you're practicing on - i.e. the closer in rank you are to what you're fighting, the quicker your skills will increase. This means that training a rank 30 warrior vs. hobgoblin soldiers won't be nearly as effective as training on something like butlers.

I'd say train while you rank, since you'll be fighting stuff at or above your rank.

[Xerties]

On that note, I've got a question. I've been using my skills while ranking, but shield block isn't going up for crap. I'm fighting alone on things that are giveing about 100xp or so and my shield block has only gone up two percent, while my dirt kick is almost mastered. WTF?

[Davairus]

thac0 miss

[Xerties]

thac0whatnow?

[Davairus]

e.g.

[Burzuk]

In addition to the normal higher-by-level learning bonus, you'll also receive an additional (and rather sizable) boost to your learning rate at 50. I'd suggest powerleveling first, then do your training at 50. Dallying around in the 40's is for schmucks, at least when it comes to skill proficiencies -- unless you have more time to burn than sense to use, of course.

[Grayden]

With the dark knight the shield block barly goes up because the unholy armor improves, but dose the ammount of ac bonus you get from unholy armor ever go up? If not maybe that should start mastered, or dose unholy armor actually block attacks?

Confused Grayde Grim

[Vhrael]

IIRC, holy/unholy armor increases with the higher the weight of the armor that you wear, i.e. heavier armor = bigger bonus from holy/unholy armor.

I'll double-check that, but it should be in the HELP (UN)HOLY ARMOR helpfile.

*Edit - yeah, it's right in the helpfile:

[Burzuk]

Your level and skill proficiency also affects your holy/unholy armor bonus, but it's primarily based on your armor weight in the relevant slots. If you want the AC bonus (and the anti-lag bonuses, as well as any legacy bonuses), you definitely should be wearing heavier armors such as red dragons, etc.

[Xerties]

Can't very well powerrank to 50 if you're wating on Cabal induct.

[Elaedon]

Get one of those huge iron breastplates or whatever Rayor was using...It weighs 100 pounds, you'll have like -500 armor with just that

[marsd]

And you'd probably not have space left for any other weapons and armor..

[Kedaleam]

Hey now! I had more than enough space to carry all of that... But then again, i suppose i am a giant after all. Helps to be able to carry all of that weight.

[Mandor]

yes I was always having trouble figuring out what weapons to keep or lose. thats where I got into trouble with drow dk . limited weapon selection because of weight concerns. I always used black tear because everything else was too heavy with the weapon selection I liked to have at my disposal for gaining combat/weapon superior. dks are warrior and mage after all, which means they need more weapons to fight well.. doesnt work so good with low carry capacity if you try going for high unholy armor with heavy stuff.

but maybe you should just have combat style superior with 1 two hand weap, a shield, and two one hand weapons, although you dont get concentrate or other warrior skills to make combat style worth much, but you wont get hobbled by a warrior I suppose..

[Ceridwel]

[Olyn]

This is still the case. One thing to consider is the relative level of your character versus the mob you're training on. So in some cases, training at lvl 35 or 40 may be more productive than training at 50 if the mobs are low level. Training at level 50 against mobs of respectable level is your best bet. Note that the level difference is what makes ranking mobs such good training. As far as I know, this is still in line to be looked at and possibly revised.

[Ceridwel]

Thanks Olyn. So if we want to practice skills effectively before pinnacling, make sure to do so against mobs close to our own level. Or put simply, if we're not getting any xp off of the mobs we're practicing on, we're practicing at a slower rate than against mobs who do give us xp.

[Kaniyre]

So in the situation below, will training rate be the same or better assuming every factor is similar?


Level 26 Warrior fighting Level 28 mobs as compared to Level 26 Warrior fighting Level 30 mobs.

[_Clifton_]

yeah. release source code of game mechanics please.