Need help on RP

[BreakMan]

I'm a newb, that's obvious. I look at my alignment
and Ethos, I see a potential story.

Neutral Evil:
Living by the phrase "by any means necessary", neutral evils use any and all methods at their disposal to achieve what they want. Honor and scruples exist only as weaknesses to exploit, and cruelty is but another means of coercion. Whether through taking advantage of laws or breaking them while their prey is lulled by its false security, neutral evils are bound only by the power they have and their lust for more.

I'm a shadowy, lingering evil behind the sences, using alliances to further his goals, even is that means allying with hated enemies like elves. Two-faced to the highest degreee, I greet you one moment and stick knives in you the next.

I have a insane ambition to overthrow the gods and immortals that rule this land and claim this world for myself in due time. I'm still working on it, what do you think? I am new at this and frankly still don't know what hell I am doing.

My charater is a male drow Illusionist.
Please try not to rip me apart with criticism. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

[Davairus]

Well the first thing you should know is that Immortals don't exactly "rule the land".. aside of a few angels with very little power, they're working behind the scenes, generally out of view and moderating the game rules. (Nomenclature may be similar, but there's a world of difference between a game rule that says "dont give items to your other character" and a mortal law like "dont attack in Seringale").

Have a look into cabals, I think that is closer to what you seem to have in mind. Overthrowing one is not something you can do single-handed but with a large and dedicated enough group they will definitely have a struggle on their hands.

[BreakMan]

Thanks for the info. I couldn't find a list of deities for Abandoned Realms, that and my lack of knolegde of thie RP made me think of the immortals.

I want to form a cunning, cruel, backstabbing madman.

I want to make sure that I don't step on any rules while I'm working on my story, backstory and RP.

What I really need is some references to this world.

The gods, the cultures, past events, current events, stuff like that I couldn't find on the site. And thanks in advance

[m1co]

according to what you have described here, i suggest chaotic evil instead of neutral evil, chaotic ones are these who never have to say sorry, and doesnt give a damn whats happening if it doesnt concern em directly, and pick a drow race if you are looking for such RP, chaotic evil drow with whatever class is as evil and mischievious as possible;)

[BreakMan]

Yes but I feel the description of chaotic evil dosen't fit. True my charater wants to rule all, but he is cunning and patient, not reckless and violent. That's why I picked the Illusionist.

The Illusionist excels at deception, manipulation, trickery and all-out head games. I should've worded it better.

I want his everyday actions and personality to be that of a evil mastermind, but his goals to be of a madman. Unlike chaotic evil, he has all the patience in the world, because no matter the trail, the reward he seeks is well worth it. I think he fits neutral evil.

Chaotic Evil:
From the common bandit to powerful warrior-lords, many choose to follow the path of chaotic evil. These are the ones prone to violence, the scoundrels and murderers, the curse and bane of society. Their only law is the belief that might makes right. Power in its rawest, purest form is the only order among this type, as they only obey those capable of crushing them. Yet true chaotic evils will not be content to serve their master for long, as it is their nature to fight and overthrow, to compete in the eternal struggle to become the most powerful.

Edit: Please tell me If my Idea for a RP breaks any rules

[marsd]

There's a one largest misconception about chaotics and I think this is the best thing that can describe them:

They feel free to do as they please.


Besides what's already been quoted which was described first by Davairus in some other threads, here're a few cents to which I think evil chaotic would be, and how I will play them:

An Evil would mean he's a self-above-all being, who is not compelled to follow any laws set by any other mortals. He MAY or MAY NOT follow someone he admires and love, but that doesn't mean he'll do whatever they say.

Evil Neutrels - what is different for them is that they follow the laws to their OWN benefit. Chaotics follow something because they feel like it - they are not bound to the laws.

[Sethronu]

[BreakMan]

This is a lot to take in. It's going to be a whole before my skill at RP'ing is acceptable. Everbody thanks for your help

[_Clifton_]

RP is rp, but rp with foundation is a whole nother story. If you want to be a madman, okay, go for it. But in order for that to have any grounds, you'lll need to be more than just a speedbump. If you want to cheese people at 1% - sweet, should be easily doable. Otherwise, you'll want to be careful about how extravangantly malicious you make your character since people will take pleasure in destroying someone they don't like.

Yes - I think it would be neutral evil versus chaotic evil since chaotic evils go MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! rage.

[Davairus]

Here are some d20 explanations of alignments, if the helpfiles weren't good enough, see if this helps you judge what ethos you want (since our helpfiles didnt - assuming you read them).
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Lawful Good, "Crusader"

A lawful good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act. She combines a commitment to oppose evil with the discipline to fight relentlessly. She tells the truth, keeps her word, helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice. A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished.

Lawful good combines honor and compassion.

Neutral Good, "Benefactor"

A neutral good character does the best that a good person can do. He is devoted to helping others. He works with kings and magistrates but does not feel beholden to them..

Neutral good means doing what is good without bias for or against order.

Chaotic Good, "Rebel"

A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him. He makes his own way, but he’s kind and benevolent. He believes in goodness and right but has little use for laws and regulations. He hates it when people try to intimidate others and tell them what to do. He follows his own moral compass, which, although good, may not agree with that of society.

Chaotic good combines a good heart with a free spirit.

Lawful Neutral, "Judge"

A lawful neutral character acts as law, tradition, or a personal code directs her. Order and organization are paramount to her. She may believe in personal order and live by a code or standard, or she may believe in order for all and favor a strong, organized government.

Lawful neutral means you are reliable and honorable without being a zealot.

Neutral, "Undecided"

A neutral character does what seems to be a good idea. She doesn’t feel strongly one way or the other when it comes to good vs. evil or law vs. chaos. Most neutral characters exhibit a lack of conviction or bias rather than a commitment to neutrality. Such a character thinks of good as better than evil—after all, she would rather have good neighbors and rulers than evil ones. Still, she’s not personally committed to upholding good in any abstract or universal way.

Some neutral characters, on the other hand, commit themselves philosophically to neutrality. They see good, evil, law, and chaos as prejudices and dangerous extremes. They advocate the middle way of neutrality as the best, most balanced road in the long run.

Neutral means you act naturally, without prejudice or compulsion.

Chaotic Neutral, "Free Spirit"

A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn’t strive to protect others’ freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions. A chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer). A chaotic neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behavior is not totally random. He is not as likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it.

Chaotic neutral represents true freedom from both society’s restrictions and a do-gooder’s zeal.

Lawful Evil, "Dominator"

A lawful evil villain methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts. He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order but not about freedom, dignity, or life. He plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion. He is comfortable in a hierarchy and would like to rule, but is willing to serve. He condemns others not according to their actions but according to race, religion, homeland, or social rank. He is loath to break laws or promises.

This reluctance comes partly from his nature and partly because he depends on order to protect himself from those who oppose him on moral grounds. Some lawful evil villains have particular taboos, such as not killing in cold blood (but having underlings do it) or not letting children come to harm (if it can be helped). They imagine that these compunctions put them above unprincipled villains.

Some lawful evil people and creatures commit themselves to evil with a zeal like that of a crusader committed to good. Beyond being willing to hurt others for their own ends, they take pleasure in spreading evil as an end unto itself. They may also see doing evil as part of a duty to an evil deity or master.

Lawful evil is sometimes called "diabolical," because devils are the epitome of lawful evil.

Lawful evil represents methodical, intentional, and frequently successful evil.

Neutral Evil, "Malefactor"

A neutral evil villain does whatever she can get away with. She is out for herself, pure and simple. She sheds no tears for those she kills, whether for profit, sport, or convenience. She has no love of order and holds no illusion that following laws, traditions, or codes would make her any better or more noble. On the other hand, she doesn’t have the restless nature or love of conflict that a chaotic evil villain has.

Some neutral evil villains hold up evil as an ideal, committing evil for its own sake. Most often, such villains are devoted to evil deities or secret societies.

Neutral evil represents pure evil without honor and without variation.

Chaotic Evil, "Destroyer"

A chaotic evil character does whatever his greed, hatred, and lust for destruction drive him to do. He is hot-tempered, vicious, arbitrarily violent, and unpredictable. If he is simply out for whatever he can get, he is ruthless and brutal. If he is committed to the spread of evil and chaos, he is even worse. Thankfully, his plans are haphazard, and any groups he joins or forms are poorly organized. Typically, chaotic evil people can be made to work together only by force, and their leader lasts only as long as he can thwart attempts to topple or assassinate him.

Chaotic evil is sometimes called "demonic" because demons are the epitome of chaotic evil.

Chaotic evil represents the destruction not only of beauty and life but also of the order on which beauty and life depend.

[MrCarb]

Genuine backstabers are actualy fairly rare, and I really enjoy meeting them if they are Rp'd well. Be prepared for lots of unreasonable reactions, however. You may find yourself, for instance, in a group full of evils, yet when you betray another at an opportune moment they become outraged (often in a clearly OOC manner). Don't let this set you back. If you are an evil chachter than it is perfectly legit to kill someone who is sleeping at 1% and has travelled with you for a long time, so long as you RP it well. DOn't let comments like 'Newb Trash' get you down, and remember that anyone who says something like that in game is obviously 'newb trash' themselves.

Being in a group of evil characters who are all watching eachother like hawks can be one of the best RP and gameply experiences in AR.

Sadly, however, the illusionist is a tough class to play when your new, so you'll probably have trouble killing anyone in a more even matchup. You would fair much better with a dark knight or something.

[MrCarb]

Genuine backstabers are actualy fairly rare, and I really enjoy meeting them if they are Rp'd well. Be prepared for lots of unreasonable reactions, however. You may find yourself, for instance, in a group full of evils, yet when you betray another at an opportune moment they become outraged (often in a clearly OOC manner). Don't let this set you back. If you are an evil chachter than it is perfectly legit to kill someone who is sleeping at 1% and has travelled with you for a long time, so long as you RP it well. DOn't let comments like 'Newb Trash' get you down, and remember that anyone who says something like that in game is obviously 'newb trash' themselves.

Being in a group of evil characters who are all watching eachother like hawks can be one of the best RP and gameply experiences in AR.

Sadly, however, the illusionist is a tough class to play when your new, so you'll probably have trouble killing anyone in a more even matchup. You would fair much better with a dark knight or something.

[BreakMan]

Also, I use the "look" command and I couldn't see their alignment or ethos.

I can't attempt to RP when I don't know that. Sorry if I'm asking the obvious.

I'm still stumbling arounb AR's commands, while trying to respect AR's rules.

[Smotpoker]

ethos you cant know unless you ask them their align im sure is based on the consider command

[Davairus]

Incorrect. Ethos can be determined with the "know alignment" spell.

[Smotpoker]

really now hmmm ok i was wrong on one part