Looking for some pk-related ideas.

[Erlwith]

[wudst]

And Kalist speaks. Yes I was quite clear on the answer to every single one of those questions.

Yes there are times when you can say "I want this one myself"... However those EXACT SAME TIMES you can say "lets fuck him up."

The argument goes both ways, which is why I used it. The code (and I would just like to note, you fucking idiot, that "the code" obviously didnt represent the actual game code but instead the ideals and laws the players must abide by.) allows and even goes as far to suggest, force and coerce players into gangbangs. However, it is very specifically oriented to cabals. One would assume that that is because gang wars are wanted (and I very much agree). Which brings me to my point. Cabals are expected to gang, and need to gang, and have to gang at one time or another. They cannot escape gangs very easily at all, and if the ganging party does its job the cabal'd char cant escape at all (assuming he plays by his own cabal's standards (to clarify erlwith, they cant leave if you attack their cabal))and thus they should not be penalized for attempting to gangbang someone within their own code of conduct and rule structure. However, the non-caballed character has no laws, no rule structure, and certainly no requirement to go fucking die. They should have a penalty. And my suggestion is to not be able to exponentially increase their skill set and overall skill by binding together and making a hasted first attack goblin. The ability to gang is there, however it is not nearly as easily accessible as those who are in cabals.

Now I have reverted to saying that those in cabals should be able to group and gang because of Kalist's argument of "Learning how to deal with gangbangs (i.e. splitting the group, forming alliances, etc) is just another facet of playerkilling in AR. So yes, it is valid to say that gangbanging IS a part of the game." (I would also like to note that yes, while it is a valid thing to say, it is a completely invalid argument to use in an attempt to defend or attack something.)

I think that is a very fun, very hard, and very key part of the gang wars. I also think it should be harder for those who dont make the game harder on themselves. Cheesing people isnt fun, neither is getting cheesed. I think this would greatly assist in those circumstances.

[Davairus]

We had some anti-gangbanging code in the works before, but since we were just getting started on the coding I wasn't able to get it to work cleanly, so we just abandoned it. Since then other "similar games" basically did the same thing we planned so we've been beaten to it now. But I could probably get it working with a bit more energy now. It was something like you would hit the wrong person with damage if you were in a multiple opponents/groupmates situation. Ranger pets weren't immune to that problem either, so ranger's were getting hit by their own pets, funnily enough. I need to emphasize that we didn't really put much time into the numbers since I wasn't able to get it working right. But there it is. At the moment I am not convinced ganging is a serious problem though.