Changes you don't like.

[Xenyar]

The update to bash.

[Dogran]

Can you elaborate?

[Davairus]

Knockdowns. If it stays as is, the obvious thing is to have kick deal a winding kick in that scenario.

[Grayden]

Just thinking about set items and saw smelly furs got updated to ‐5 dex. That sucks as a required item.

Also glad to head red fox is updated, too bad it is neutral exclusively.

I don't like the required set items. This started screwing me over with color of wizardry- just made sense to engrave Lux banner if you already got the boots. Now you stuck with the rainbow staff.

[Olyn]

Grayden, don't we have the religious floater for this exact case?

[Kornhole]

Monk prayer beads don't emergency strangle, rangers don't get mind link, and druids no longer forage/brew/mix. Ok, I feel better, thanks!

[Kornhole]

@grayden missing rend is a bit deal. Preserving a bag full of brains, and devoting longevity...AMAZING!

[Grayden]

@Olyn they have other pieces you need to skip. Serpent belt is evil only I think, so only evils could skip smelly furs.

I guess red fox is neutral and good only with the skip logic, I think the waist piece is anti-evil combined with the anti earing.

[Grayden]

Suddenly mountain barbarians can see invisible people in the dark when they try to charm them. Seriously have to give a torch to mercenary so the barbarian will join the fight in a dark room. Why this recent change?

Also curse weapon blowing up weapons is dumb, it already has drawbacks.

[Ashlyn]

give monk beads an emergency strangle with a similar cooldown to jotun diamond skin/illithid shock/etc.

[Kornhole]

I agree wholeheartedly with the return of beads strangle, timer can even be like strength damned long, or even no timer, just like 2% chance, on damage taken under 15% health or some such. Also, if we r talking bringing back, lets go mind link!

[Davairus]

The illithid shock at 1 hp is quite believable and barely even a "get out of jail free" card considering the beefy slash vuln, but the monk strangling with beads to escape with 1 hp is a harder sell when we're talking about a stunned monk. Does a tanky class with high potential for heals and windwalking/crane flight really need a reset button?

[Stiehl26]

100% this ^

[Dogran]

Monk doesn't need a reset button.

[Grayden]

If we are not topic anyways and you still have not figured out Monks- attack dragon style - flee heal if not superior style - change style resume fighting.

If fully looted, outfit, make beads, you now have all your styles and damage types.

With sanctuary and beads and light, this class could probably fight naked.

[lionSpyre]

Monks are most certainly not OP, but they are in a very good place. There’s a bit of an imbalance where they do really well against some classes and really poorly against others. But for the latter, they have attrition to fall back on as long as they manage their legs. That’s a lot easier now with mountable pets, crane stance, and energy scrolls.

But fighting naked? Nah. They scale very well with AC and hitroll. If you lack in either of those categories, you get eaten alive.

[Stiehl26]

Graydens take seems more accurate. Monks are in most cases easy button.

[Mogu]

Listen to lionspyre. That guy monks.

[Ashlyn]

I personally just don’t like the idea of essentially having to not fight classes that have a clear superiority to my class and instead focus on picking on the classes I can dominate. Makes me feel cheap and dirty. I’m not saying my idea was a good one but the response and general acceptance of the unbalanced nature of monk is disheartening.

[Stiehl26]

Should classes not have counters? Is monk the only class with counters?