Idea for No-PK option (from "passive neutral" thre

[Grayden]

Ok, common sense to the rescue, This mud is not really rp friendly. It is a pk mud and people who are not interested in pk and are more interested in rp will be going to diff muds.

Solution, I am sure I have said this before, We need a no pk option, somthing that would have to be opted to take before you reach level 10, and if you get a rare you would drop it with the "this item is too powerful for you" so no pk = no rares for you. Then people would stop being neutral to fail misirably to avoid fights.

Grayden Grim of the Bloody Fields of Flesh

[Vhrael]

[Grayden]

good points, so no looting from players, and not being able to sac stuff, and whatever other penalties you would see fit to attach to your no pk people. The point of ranking your rp person to a higher level is that wow look there is somone you can rank with who will not kill and rob you. The most important thing is I think it might increase the player base. You could help people find the rare items even if you could not use them, and I don't see level 9 people helping check on rare items.

[Vhrael]

[Kessor Natul]

Woot woot. What Vhrael said pretty much sums up what I think. PK is important:

[Sethronu]

How are we a no rp /rp unfriendly mud? just because we allow and encourage pk and rp ?

rp is only as good on a mud as the people who actually do it

you dont need rules to force you to rp, you need people who want to rp or at least to realize that its fun, and maybe punishment for those who break/disregard it

[Davairus]

A no-pk flag isn't terribly necessary:

1) There are PK ranges for fairness
2) There's lots of pk help on the website
3) There is a Justice cabal enforcing Law in the main hometown

Last point about the Justice cabal is particularly nice. Its a solid cabal for any peaceful character to join.

[Grayden]

[quote="Vhrael"]
As for the rare items thing... they're supposed to be "rare." Not everybody has two heavy black dragonscale rings, or 'Khizarizia,' or a crested helm in the shape of a serpent. It wouldn't be the same game if everybody walked around with two Nimbuses of Power, and giving a roadmap for everyone to get such things will just weaken the playerbase even more.
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I have no idea where any of thoes items are, I am sure it is fun to abuse the experience you gained finding these items to smash new people in the realms, but really if you did not ever use any rares you would be a weaker person. I think next time you fight people in the game try using no rares, and see what a new person gets.

Grayden Grim of the Bloody fields of flesh

[Vhrael]

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[Davairus]

Wearing rares gives most people a good reason to attack you, its a little humdrum by now since the muds been open for nearly 10 years, but its fine. As opposed to .. not having one at all. Like was said in the other thread, doing your best to bury good pk reasons so you won't die (invincibility via game rules) doesn't stop the "senseless pk of newbies by dickheads" anyway, so you may want to reconsider that.

By the way, there's a flip side of a "passive neutral", and that's a fire giant. Fire giants kill because killing's fun. So there's no such thing as 100% immunity via game rules.

[Monkey]

As much as I absolutely hate dying over and over to someone who I've never met in the game before I hate even more so PK divided MUDs.

Within 30 seconds of playing a MUD if I see that you can choose to be PK or not, I will not give that MUD much more of my time. I find that MUDs must either be wholly PK or not; supporting otherwise divides the MUD and flaws the RP and gaming atmosphere.

You've section A comprised of players who love to PK and section B comprised of pacifists. How in the world does it make sense for some players to be susceptible to harm and others not for their entire gaming "life"? Furthermore (relating to the previous point), what sense does it make that player group B can kill MOBs but not other players when in reality (in game reality) we are all just living creatures governed by the same fundamental rules. It seems you'd have to break out of the bounds of even MUD reality to create a story line that would support such a thing.

Not to mention, it gives any player the right to talk as much trash as they want without any risk whatsoever.

I'm not totally averse however to choosing to be non-pk (via divine grace given by a quest or such) until something like level 20 if you choose that option, but beyond that it's just opening a venue for PITAs and a division of a well oiled machine. In other words, the problem with this game is not the PK, it's the people who participate in it. So don't fix the PK, fix the people.


And Vhrael, there are plenty of non-pk MUDs out there.