Warlord's deathmark

[Matthais]

Im going to take a guess here, because I dont know 100%.
Deathmarks in the old days, (meaning, when you could fatality without deathmarking) didnt kill you. You were stunned for a bit and got up. Deathmark just told you what to expect when you won or lost. Im assuming that only the ability to allow fatalities during deathmarks changed, not the actuall affects of the marking.

[sweet_canadian_mullet]

Arright mat since you posted I am assuming I missed you while I slept. And seeing as I only slept for four hours...That realy fucking sucks. Damn where are all the warlords?

[Matthais]

Im generally on for a little bit at noon, once and a while 6-7a.m. and usually around 7pm Im on for a substantial time. this is all eastern standard time.

[sweet_canadian_mullet]

Its noon thirty... Now where the hell are ya!?!? I saw Rylek once in the last 5 days. And no taurth or you. And I assure you I have been on wayy too much. I am trained enough to be two legionairs and I am getting a very big headache. Warlords need to come on and freaking play. I have seen grum like 3-4 times in that period. So hes actualy playing and yet hes not one that can induct me. Sooooo frustrating.

[Vertas]

[Avendin]

Master all your weapons and it doesn't matter. The disarm wasn't what undid you; it was your spear proficiency. No-disarm weapons are extremely powerful and can definitely be the make-or-break factor in a warrior vs warrior duel.

[Vertas]

[Avendin]

Do you think people with nodisarm weapons are stuck with them? They use demon-faced talismans or helms of weakening to switch out weapons painlessly. Most use macros or aliases.

[Matthais]

alrighty, I dont know what class you are but I know that most classes have maces. So, if you disarm a mace which you can parry well and he has a spear now in his primary spot and you dont have that weapon skill he will hit you more.

Now, get your lvl 35 head out of your ass and think at lvl 50. Lets look at a fight between two warriors at lvl 50, one with nondisarms, and another without. Well, lets say they start with dirts. Thats well and good. Well, the nondisarm person, depending on hitroll, can go right to trip/bash, disarm and the trip or what not. The dude with disarmable weapons either has to bash or trip his way to prevent, which doesnt work, or hope to god he doesnt get disarmed, or flee when he does

Vertas wrote:
"But no disarm weapons are over rated, give me 'nightfall' and a bejeweled battleaxe and i'll take on whoever it was that would want a cursed sword"

I say, give me a vorpal and a battlemasters and we wil see who wins.

[Vertas]

[Clifton]

Ugh, enough blind trying leading the seeing. Cripes vertas, these people are giving you good valuable experience-gained advice. Quit shooting your damn mouth, take it in cuz half of these people answer have had warlord's that have done really damn well and have more than 1 year experience. A 16 dex fire giant berserker with only two defenses (parry and dodge), will be more likely slaughted by ice weapons despite the fact that their damage isn't reduced by h2h than before. If you don't believe this, read Davairus' bitch about eye gouge. Read the AC topic. Defenses do lots of good in ar. (See: illithid psions getting eating alive by holy avenger/hallowed blade).

As it's been said... when you've got two evenly trained warriors. Both dirt, one disarms, one goes oh crap, flee, unless they wanna be chain lagged to death. That's the power of no-disarm. Why? Just the way things work.


EDUT - two defenses after dirt/disarm.

[Hamp]

I can't believe Vertas is actually saying that he can take someone with a no-disarm weapon that actually knows what he's doing. I play Groq.. and I think alot of warriors would shit their pants and not know what to do but flee without no-disarm weapons. It will make or break you at 50. I you can't get a no-disarm weapon at fifty then avoid fighting any class that can disarm. It doesn't matter if your a fire giant or not, you won't hit enough disarmed to matter.

[Phostan]

Uhm...Clifton, maybe I didn't understand your post, but fire giant berserkers have parry dodge shield block and dual parry. Not just parry and dodge. And if they rage dodge won't take effect. And if you're a fire giant berserker...well, shield block is more effective then dual parry and I'd prefer to be a defensive berserker in a duel anyday of the week and twice on T.G.I.F. No-disarm weapons can decide the fate of a battle yes. Then again I've seen schmucks dual wield a disarmable weapon and never notice when someone offhand disarmed them and then they never quite realize why they're getting hit more. Then there are the dummies who wield an uncursed weapon which is normally cursed in hopes their opponents will assume its cursed. Remember folks, just because it seems cursed doesn't mean it is. Always try for the disarm once to check. Same with no-disarm shields. And wielding a cursed weapon is only useful if the person you're fighting isnt resistant to it. I mean, I guess you might still want to use it regardless for the no-disarm factor, but its value is decreased when you dont hit as hard with it. And something the dumb n00bs who've said being disarmed doesnt matter much about appear to not realize. Being disarmed not only reduces your damage potential, but you all of a sudden lose parry. And if you're dual wielding and it's a no-disarm weapon too, you're bound to get it disarmed too. No-disarm weapons make normal players into fiends. And even though(thank the gods, mullet is banned from the forum) someone can pass onto him that he's a dumbass with an inflated ego.

[Lorne]

You know you've played a memorable & elite character when other people brag for you. No use in tooting your own horn when the other players don't support it.

[Phostan]

Which means I get to claim all the credit for what you did Ramrod since I taught you from the days you were just a wee little elf healer getting denied for multiplaying.

[Vertas]

Okay how about this... Since we drifted off topic I'll make one on disarm...