Turn Undead.

[Erlwith]

I'm finding that Turn Undead now only works on undead things rather then all evils (rather than just doing less damage to living creatures).

[Vhrael]

[Burzuk]

Turn undead damaging non-undead targets was a bug that's already been fixed. Old turn undead didn't hurt non-undead targets. Why should the new one?

The actual bug in your log there is that healers aren't supposed to be able to commune while turning -- I was off-by-one (sigh, again) in the numbers I gave to Davairus regarding the lag duration for turn undead, which was what had allowed healers to squeeze in a extra commune in-between each "pulse" of turn undead. As per the helpfile, healers are "fixed" during the turn in terms of both a) not being able to move, and b) not being able to commune. That's the price for turn undead's very high damage output and mana efficiency vs undead targets, as well as its lack of requiring any affbreak dependency to be effective.

Speaking of affbreak dependency, I'm still seeing healers whine about divine ret instead of simply wearing affbreaks to up the damage from it. For those using divine ret at all, you owe it to yourself to wear some affbreaks. Other than the lethality-scaling addition for almost-dead PC targets (which is identical to the lethality-scaling in wrath, flay health, etc), divine ret is exactly as strong as it used to be so long as healers actually bother wearing enough affbreaks.

[Erlwith]

Well either way least I reported a bug, heh.

And for the record, with dispel undead sucking, divine ret being majorly gimped, and neutral/dwarves having very few mace choices it's the Healer profession that's starting to take a major hit. Healing is being slightly nerfed, I mean come on... if you think that we're crazy for thinking that Healers are being gimped, then you haven't played a healer lately.

Do they suck? No, but that doesn't mean they're getting better because they're not. It'll only take a few more wacks of the nerf stick before dwarf healers turn into drow invokers.

[Davairus]

Speaking of which.. whack!!!

Dont forget that this class has new stuff like prot shield blocking dirt, weapon ward denys warriors most their skills, etc.

[Erlwith]

Yeah I love protective shield, unfortunately it comes with the affect of reducing a Healer's overall damage due to the lack of the ability to cast what used to be one of our most useful spells.

I mean, I'm glad to see what's in store for Healers to sort of balance things out in light of the everpopular gimpstick. Those boons just can't come soon enough.

BTW can we *please* up the time on cure continual by just a little? I mean, it's kind of a joke now as far as it making other healing spells more productive. It lasts for all of 8 seconds (and the last "tick" doesn't even heal you) which makes the thought of then using some healing spells for mana efficiency kind of lame. 20 seconds would make it worthwhile.