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Dispater
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 780 Location: Far side of the internet!
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: Invoker's afflictive nuking! |
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Invokers are rather gimp nowadays, except for hellstream, why not to make the other spells usable as well? It sucks to hit decimates with icicle on a fire giant warrior who's not even sanced. I don't have to explain how randomly the nuking spells work. Instead, i suggest that you could make it more stable, make INT the maximum damage modifier and WIS the minimum damage modifier. So that gnomes and elves (called the gimp invoker races) would have some advantage over cheesy humans and could actually use other spells than hellstream when it comes to combat.
And again, as a gnome, your icicle mutilates the fire giant and his dual wielded style hits 5 mangles to you thru aura. So hmm, make things work please:) |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10352 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Dispater
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 780 Location: Far side of the internet!
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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+ special guard + nice set of rares
Actually, i was not referring that invoker was gimpy otherwise, i just wanted to suggest that it would be fun to have more diversity than just dispel/hellstream spamming. Flame arrow/fireball/icicle etc. should have more use by invokers. It also gimps all the invokers pre-38. |
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Slade Emissary
Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 666
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Already on the roadmap. The roadmap is just stalled. |
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Davairus Implementor
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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You didnt even mention chain lightning which is one of the best damage spells that invokers have, along with the situational shields and the devastating AOE they can put down they are one of the best classes for shredding groups, given the right support. Icicle is a low level spell that doesn't scale terribly well against warrior hp per level, you don't want to use it anymore on fire giants at high level, unless you are trying to conserve mana. Gnomes are far ahead of any other invoker race in terms of uberness, with great defences and hp and tons of mana, you people are always like that, "it must have been the special guard" "it must have been the medic scrolls"... no its the gnome penis. They are tripods. Elf has autosneak which can be highly effective or dog crap depending on you. That alone makes them better choice than humans. Maybe you should learn to play first? When you bother to do the math the reckoning isn't that bad for invokers. Invokers were considered one of the worst classes for Justice and definitely the least rolled until they were put on the map by someone playing one well. Always how it is. |
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Dispater
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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I dunno, maybe i got spoiled with abyssal invoker so that this one feels like a total gimp, but yeah, it's all about the player, i'm way too much careless in PK so yeah fuckups are easy to come. |
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Mahkan
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 264 Location: The Interwebs
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Dispater wrote: |
I dunno, maybe i got spoiled with abyssal invoker so that this one feels like a total gimp, but yeah, it's all about the player, i'm way too much careless in PK so yeah fuckups are easy to come. |
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Dispater
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Mahkan wrote: |
Dispater wrote: |
I dunno, maybe i got spoiled with abyssal invoker so that this one feels like a total gimp, but yeah, it's all about the player, i'm way too much careless in PK so yeah fuckups are easy to come. |
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Did this nab tried to be witty? |
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Garion
Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah looks like it. I was going to comment on it, but decided he wasnt worth it lol |
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Davairus Implementor
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Added Makhan to the douchelist. |
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Dispater
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Davairus wrote: |
Added Makhan to the douchelist. |
I thought that everyone had him there already, right below my name. |
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