Dark Knights

[Mummy]

Asking for ideas for killing DKs with Ninja. Nerve doesn't work because their armor is too thick, caltraps doesn't either because they are mounted, they have unlimited moves, and Drow DK's bash is now as effective as anyones due to mount and Ilythir's branding is enhancing Drow defenses while forcing me to get butchered or drop counterbalance and rely on parry and dodge alone. Throw in a spear and I'm getting a little pwnt over here.

All tips appreciated.

[Esivole]

As I have played a number of ninjas now, I will attempt to throw in some thoughts. Blindness dust is still really effective. Sidestep is still really effective if you can get the weapon situation right and you aren't already getting out damaged. You have to save acupuncture for the absolutely best moment. Lead them on to make unholy strength wear off. Or just completely avoid and attempt assassinates. I want to make it clear that this fight is strictly up hill with a bag of bricks. Resetting often to survive is often the best that can happen.

[Dogran]

I think the defenses of a dk were buffed just a little too much. They were hobble bait before, all you had to do was hobble them and they died basically. Now, hobble doesn't work, sideswipe doesn't work. Barrage doesn't work. The only thing that DOES work is bash and who bashes someone who is already outdamaging you?

[Eloret]

Try grappling them, perhaps you will knock them off their high horse!

[Hrimoyan]

If you aren't ubergeared (and I mean winter/spiked/light steel geared) and assassination fails, flee flee flee (because any DK worth his salt will typically outgear you outside of that extremity). And that's pretty much it, especially with Jotun bash running around now.

[Fireballe2]

I feel like if the dk defenses were so good, human dark knights would be creaming everyone. No vulns, better weight capacity, decent parry and shield block, etc.

[Dogran]

The problem for the most part is the people making DKs. Anyone with any measure of skill making a dk right now is going to do really well.

[Xenyar]

I have played a DK somewhat recently, I owned with that DK.. Enjoyed steam rolling for a while with em...the only person I got owned by, was a DK.
Thats really the only I had issues with.

[Fireballe2]

have a link to your stats?

Lurayel is negative.

[Nycticora]

DKs are pretty underpowered at the moment. If you're having trouble killing Rheloth, it's the player not the game. Strategies against the class aren't going to help you much against someone who's beating you despite the class, not because of it.

[Fireballe2]

[Dogran]

I like how you think dwarf zerk is a power combo... lol

[Ergorion]

Yeah. Dwarf zerkers suck.


But, if you can stick around for a bit and kill of that stallion you can open things up. It's a hella long cooldown for that stallion so kill the first one. Heal up, if they get the second, kill it and heal. Then go.

Flee murder always a good time.

And dirt kick for sure. Gain that combat superiority and dirt the shit out of them.

Take advantage of vulns. Drow with mithril/silver. Jotun with pierce.

[Fireballe2]

25 con for massive regens for rage and berserk. That's not chicken feed.

[Ergorion]

[Rothak]

[Hrimoyan]

Dwarf zerks are only good on paper. No large size + no one-handing overbear weapons = it's not going to do well as a zerk. Size and dex affect success of bodyslam landing, but we know size diff affects lag time. Zerkers are a big race/max damage output class. Dwarf zerk too small yo.

As for having giant classes in DK ..I think that greatly changes the underpowered status as well as the mount-just-for-being-the-class stallions combat. With the changes to reduced movement gains from trains and combat while flying pretty much compromised for melee classes, this seems to equalize a crucial component of the playing field, something DKs were underpowered in. Rogue movement is more restricted, but they can hide. Fighter types have more restricted movement, but can dish out the pain. Spellcasters can fly/use flight for great movement without melee problems (they aren't melee). Hybrids (DK/Pally) now both have in-class enhanced movement spells with "short term" enhanced power spells.

I'm not really understanding what DKs are underpowered in now. They already dish out the damage, have movement/mounted combat now, have giant option. Vamps already steamroll and I haven't seen much struggle from competent players. Not to mention DKs have scrolls

[beia]

Vampires are dumb OP. The Daylight shit does not even do anything to them if they have good eq it does not even affect them. It is like they have perm-Unholy Strength, tons of different ways to heal themselves. Maybe idk what I am talking about but this shit needs to be looked at. They really never have to use a Coffin, so Pallys stake is worthless. Someone should roll a human warrior named Blade and kill all the vampires.

[Fireballe2]

[Davairus]

Daylight does a whole lot more than "nothing" to vampires. You wouldn't last a week.