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flat4
Joined: 29 May 2014 Posts: 95
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:34 am Post subject: berserkers beat monks always |
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hi
berserkers can just rage in the arena and beat monks without trying
this is broken and it proves berserkers are OP beyond a shadow of a doubt
fix it |
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flat4
Joined: 29 May 2014 Posts: 95
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:36 am Post subject: |
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also rangers can't call pets in the arena
this is bad and I hate it |
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Ergorion
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 2156
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Don't fight in the fucking arena. Shit man. Healers will always lose to Zerkers in the arena. Shamans will always lose to berserkers in the arena. Invokers will always lose to a berserker in the arena. Thieves, ninjas, bards. They will always lose to berserkers in the arena. Paladins and dark-knights will always lose to berserkers in the arena.
There is more to this game than that shitty arena. Think outside the box.
Edit. Your forum creation date is a year old so I'll assume you're newer at this game. And then Apologize because I have my cranky pants on. But then also tell you to stop fighting in that stupid arena. |
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Faelon Emissary
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 938 Location: Your moms house.
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:25 am Post subject: |
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I pray to god that there was supposed to be {sarcasm} before and {/sarcasm} after the first post. |
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m1coftw
Joined: 05 May 2015 Posts: 265
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:09 am Post subject: |
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ergorion got trolled |
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Vevier Immortal
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 1642 Location: everywhere
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Ergorion
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 2156
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Vevier Immortal
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 1642 Location: everywhere
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Haha.
I actually had a lot of success with Opha in the arena by not buying into the high pace atmosphere that it breeds. I won that fight by skirmishing and literally running around for 6 minutes waiting for insomnia to land. Can't fight at his pace or you'll just get crushed trying to land enough mals. Lorne is especially tough because he's well geared and a badass tracker. Not sure how to translate that into monk play though. |
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Andrael
Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 779
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ottif
Joined: 08 Jan 2015 Posts: 310
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Phaeluss was a skilled player. No shade to Lorne but he's not Nearly as skilled in comparison. Berserkers are just win buttons or were a few months ago. Especially in a confined space like the arena. I watched the Phaedra fight tho and he got creamed by simple lack of knowledge/skill. I barely used to beat Cronus with fitto that's with pimped out gear full advantages and clobber rakes the entire fight. All respect to Cronus but he doesn't even switch weapons and is still winning fights purely based on huge chunks of dmg out of literally nowhere. But it is not rocket science to see 250 dmg a round wins or always comes close |
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Faelon Emissary
Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 938 Location: Your moms house.
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Is it fun to pull numbers out of thin air?
If Voglin did 250 per round, on a sanc'd and often protectioned target, then most of my targets would be dead in 4 rounds. That. Didn't. Happen. Some moments of perfect timing, with no sanctuary up and landed a good bodyslam while raged, I could one round someone. Those instances I was also using race vuln weapons, in titanium tenor, with a 60 55 hit dam. Add rage damage to that and I think you see why you are getting fucked up by berserkers recently. Or, just two. Lorne. Voglin.
Play one, or the shut the hell up. Tired of the whining. |
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ramod
Joined: 03 Dec 2014 Posts: 40
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you want to switch weapons if you are winning on damage? If you really think only weapon/combat advantage wins the game then you're retarded. Do you really think just because you're wielding a sword and the other guy got an axe you're gonna win? Like wtf. I can't even. |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10368 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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i think if you are disadvantaged with a mace, it might still be the tankiest weapon you can wield, so if your weapons primary purpose is to weather damage, you might still need to go with that
you should try it out |
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ewils03
Joined: 05 Jan 2015 Posts: 153
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Why is there so many complaints about zerkers? They're meant to hit harder than anyone, they're berserkers.. it's what they do. You should be glad they get one rage strike each round; in the old days, they'd hit like that every weapon strike (imagine two-four *** DEVASTATES *** or === OBLITERATES === each round). And now their rage hits fucking anything if they try chasing. Zerkers have their downfalls just like every class does. Besides, I've seen monks beat zerkers in the arena, I've seen an invoker do it (against a fire giant, so, there's that). Instead of griping about how much you hate berserkers, ask around about how to handle them and you already go some great advice... play one. |
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Ashlyn
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 291
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Don't fight in the arena against zerkers, you can negate the advantages rage gives by having one semi-decent mob around. |
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ottif
Joined: 08 Jan 2015 Posts: 310
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:25 am Post subject: |
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I have logs of it happening. 250 a round is excessive. When I get time to find them I'll post. |
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Davairus Implementor
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 10368 Location: 0x0000
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:21 am Post subject: |
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You cant throw around the term "obliterates" without acknowledging that the damage range on that is like +- 100 hp between the lowest and best, you cant say that an obliterate is 250 damage, its like saying circles are squares. just be careful what you are saying |
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Nycticora
Joined: 09 Feb 2013 Posts: 2277
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I speculate that what's happening is that a berserker's full combat round worth of damage is occasionally a medium/high obliterate and these guys have actually never seen that outside a hellstream before so it's retraining them to expect all oblits to be high oblits. |
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ottif
Joined: 08 Jan 2015 Posts: 310
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:23 am Post subject: |
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just look at the log bard i see an obliterate for 198 and a bodyslam for like 20 on a log vs voglin or something so let me just correct myself and say 220 hp and lag is excessive for one round |
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ottif
Joined: 08 Jan 2015 Posts: 310
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:31 am Post subject: |
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<222hp 371m 439mv> blade.dual_wield inside aggressive
You dodge Voglin's corrosion.
Voglin's flaming bite misses you.
Voglin's fury === OBLITERATES === you!
Your typhoon DISEMBOWELS Voglin!
Your typhoon maims Voglin!
Your typhoon MUTILATES Voglin!
You dodge a solid shadow's slash.
You are stunned, but will probably recover.
Voglin looks pretty hurt.
<-1hp 371m 439mv> blade.dual_wield inside aggressive |
honestly if im miscounting here please point it out
with a 25 dmg bodyslam thats 250 right? |
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