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ok, advice?

ice = pwned
rage = pwned
try to outdamage = pwned
combat style advantage, using the skills = pwned
and yes, I am sanc'd.

the only thing I can think to do is to run.

we are the same rank.

<{100%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night no opponent:none}> kk

Telis walks in.
Telis yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Jerusai!'
Your slash hits Telis.
Telis has a few scratches.

<{100%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night segment:defensive}> e

Telis kicks dirt in your eyes!
Telis's kicked dirt scratches you.
You can't see a thing!

<{99%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}>
Someone's flame scratches someone.
Someone's drowning MUTILATES you!
Someone's drowning DISEMBOWELS you!
Your slash hits someone.
Someone blocks your attack with his shield.

<{84%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}> No way! You are still fighting!

<{84%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}> barr
You hammer someone's shield repeatedly with your weapons.
Your barrage scratches someone.
Someone's shield arm is numbed.
Your barrage scratches someone.
Your barrage scratches someone.
Your barrage scratches someone.
Someone's shield arm is numbed.

<{84%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}>
Someone's flame misses someone.
Someone's flame misses someone.
Someone's drowning DISEMBOWELS you!
Someone couldn't dodge your slash but you miss by inches.

<{76%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}>
Someone's eyes suddenly burn like hot coals as he is gripped by insanity!

<{76%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2016tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}>
Someone's flame misses someone.
You notice something new in someone's technique.
You have become better at rage!
Someone's drowning DISMEMBERS you!
You dodge someone's drowning.
You manage to dodge someone's shield smash with a lot of effort.
Your slash injures someone.
Your slice misses someone.

<{66%hit 100%mana 55%mv 2015tnl 1385gold night unknown:unknown}> fl

Someone lets loose a bestial roar at you.
You are not intimidated by someone's roar.
You flee from combat!
You lost 10 experience points.
You can't see a thing!
You stumble blindly as you flee and fall flat on your face!
Someone flies in.

<{66%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night no opponent:none}> w
You can't see a thing!
Alas, you cannot go that way.
You rub the dirt out of your eyes.

<{66%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night no opponent:none}>
Telis walks in.

<{66%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night no opponent:none}> w
w

You dodge Telis's drowning.
Telis's shield smash maims you!
Telis has a few scratches.

<{60%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> No way! You are still fighting!
Telis has a few scratches.

<{60%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> No way! You are still fighting!
Telis has a few scratches.

<{60%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}>

<{60%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}>
An everchanging coloured dragon's flame misses Telis.
An everchanging coloured dragon's flame misses Telis.
Telis's drowning DISMEMBERS you!
Telis's shield smash misses you.
Your slash hits Telis.
Telis has a few scratches.

<{50%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> 8

Telis lets loose a bestial roar at you.
You feel intimidated by Telis's roar.
You start to panic as you enter a state of hysteria!
You stop wielding throwing axe.
You stop wielding a sword with a swiftbird hilt.
You wield a colossal forked voulge.
You are skilled with a colossal forked voulge.
Telis has a few scratches.

<{49%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> dirt
The dirt attacking Telis's eyes bursts into flames.
Your kicked dirt misses Telis.
An everchanging coloured dragon's flame misses Telis.
Telis's drowning DISEMBOWELS you!
Telis's drowning MASSACRES an everchanging coloured dragon!
An everchanging coloured dragon is DEAD!!
An everchanging coloured dragon's eyes are pulled out of her head.
Telis sacrifices the corpse of an everchanging coloured dragon to The Overlord.
Telis's drowning DISMEMBERS you!
You dodge Telis's drowning.
Telis's shield smash maims you!
Your stab injures Telis.
Telis has a few scratches.

<{24%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> fl

You manage to dodge Telis's drowning with a lot of effort.
You couldn't dodge Telis's shield smash but he misses by inches.
Your stab injures Telis.
Your stab grazes Telis.
Telis has some small wounds and bruises

<{24%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}>
Telis's bodyslam misses you.
You evade Telis's bodyslam, causing him to fall flat on his face.
Telis has some small wounds and bruises

<{24%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> fl

Telis's drowning DISEMBOWELS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Telis's shield smash misses you.
Your stab hits Telis.
Telis has some small wounds and bruises

<{15%hit 100%mana 54%mv 2025tnl 1385gold night segment:dual_wield}> You flee from combat!

that's all there is. I fled, rested, and set up a trigger to quit right when he entered the room while I was using the bathroom.

DarkFire fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

well mental weapons work wonders

dahlin fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

You can at least stop using physical weapons.

davor fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

While you are using weapon he is resistant to (physical damage), he is using a weapon you are vulnerable to (water for dwarf).
Start from there and we'll work our way up.

jerusai fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

ok - wounds/mauls. not too big of a difference still get rocked.

not too big difference?
i beg to differ. it is basic concept, exploit enemies weakness opposed to play into his strong points:

Telis's drowning DISMEMBERS you!
Your stab injures Telis.
Your stab grazes Telis.

I have no idea what you were wearing...
Guild issue?

Thats not good... not good at all. Grab some mithril, teeth necklaces, enchanted bracers, opal rings, some silver eq from ofcol and possibly dream catcher (mental weapon, giant vuln to it, though you might want a wide range of magical weapons: Fiery dagger, pitch flaming longsword, ivy sword, warded flail(can goodies use that?)... there are loads of easy to get magic weapons. Then rematch and observe the difference.
Some preparation is necessary for a fight.

caedan fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

Out of interest, do Fire Giants have any resistance to fire weapons? It would make sense from one point of view, but on the other hand, they do a magical-type attack.

Mass of bloody tentacles is an easy to get magic damage whip. Alternatively, hit 36 and go to Mundo's shop, and invest in an effigy. Cackle as you watch even the effigy of timid phantoms doing sick damage to giants...

Another option would be to horde icicles, and try not to lag yourself in the fight. Dual wield them, and just wield your next when flamebearing sizzles them.

But yeah, Fire zerkers are buff at pretty much all levels now with the legacies.

telis fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

The biggest thing that you are forgetting here is that I was very prepared when I attacked you. I have sanc, protection up, and used your vuln. You exploited no vuln, failed to use protection, and only used sanc. Being prepared is the only way that you will win a fight.

GOMER fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

Telis is correct about being prepared. Dont fight a fight you arent ready for. Also using vulns is expected and can get you in trouble some times. He is a fire giant you should use magic, not fire or ice sice he is a fire giant and a berserker, use ivy sword, lightning sword, dream catcher, .... the list goes on and on. one thing to remember when he rages is jumps into a dual wielding combat ( i think ) so try to overhead crush him if it works then there you go. Also on vulns, use your weakness to you advantage. He is coming at you with these possibilities wave churner (flail), water cube (exotic) or staff of storms (staff) so if he uses the flail or cube you use a shaft... lightning spear, rod of mind sceptres, or what ever you can get that is not fire or physical. I would even suggest getting a ice staff but not for the whole fight and dont rely on it just use it a one round "eat this shit" you could land a couple of DISMEMBERS before is sizzles. You could also try sideswiping hiim to see if it works and in that case his weapon is raked.

just my thoughts.

guest fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

I've been an expert at playing berserkers for 6 years.
So I'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies.
Some of you are really good at making it sound like you know what you're talking about.
But trust me .. you don't.
I think you're just trying to make yourselves look clever.

This is how bad information gets passed around.

Don't try to sound like you know what you're talking about when you don't.
Because some AR newbs believe anything they read.

marsd fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

Show proof or you're invalid.

gomer fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

Okay it does not matter that you have played them for 6 years, because since they have been "changed" and the combat and weapon styles implemented, remember that it happened not to long ago, they are a completely different class then they use to be and fighting in general is completely different.

With my post, I said to use weapon style over a raged berserker since you will over come their only defense, it my not happen very much but every time it does you will be one maim closer to winning.

People do worry to much about vulns and it makes your opponents predictable which will get them killed, especially when a raged berserker since they cant change out weapons unless they throw them, which gives them two round before they can wield another. Lets see how long you will last if you keep that up.

Fire Giant berserkers don\x92t "pwn." No class or race does that is why the MUD is all about balance. Only the people behind the characters can "pwn" and this is only if they know what they are doing.

"Guest\x94 you seem like you are trying to make noobs scared of fire zerkers, which is funny. We don\x92t need proof about what you are saying because unless you are an IMP then you are full of yourself. And the best thing a noob can do is read. Read the help files. They say most of what people need.

And I have been here for about 3 years now. I have played the old berserkers when they were warriors with rage and weapon and shield cleave. And they are by no means the same as I am sure you know since you have played them for 6 years.

Don\x92t stock and use icicles especially if he is using segments, with 25 str he WILL overcome you parry A LOT. The effigies are good but if the fire doesn\x92t rage he will sideswipe you to death.

And I still consider myself a noob. I don\x92t stop reading the help files or learning. Do I think I am better then I was 3 years ago? Definitely. Do I think I am better then most of the other players? Yes, but I know I am not the best and yes I find players that hand me my ass and I remember and learn.

Just about that overhead comment, even though a raged zerker wearing a shield is in dual wield, he'll still block overhead attacks and strike back. Not sure what barrage and sideswipe do to in that situation though, never tried them.

The overhead thing might be a bug and it is worth bringing to the immortals attention on the forum. I thought that when they rage they completely lose the ability to use their shield to block but what you said conflicts with that. I am probably wrong but who knows until we are told.

If what you said about overhead crush is correct then sideswipe would collide with their shield and barrage would just keep them from using their shield to attack you.

hrash fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

Yea, I considered myself the expert in berserkers until the recent changes. If I were to play, I wouldn't know left from right, up from down. If you've had a powerhouse fire zerker recently, by all means give advices. Otherwise, it would be good to listen to some solid advice.

larieb fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

use a vuln on him, obviously. and yes, rage does throw you into dual wield, and your shield becomes useless, no more shield block, and no you cant block an overhead with it. I am almost positive when you rage, it becomes a weapon.

Clifton fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

It's funny you disregard Guest's posts so quickly. The point is that you guys trying to make yourselves look smart are effectively doing diddly shit but passing around bad info. You suck. If anyone were to take any advice from anyone, it should be Rigwarl and his advice would be - get to 50, find uber eq, rage GG.

Actually clifton, the best way for them to learn is to try out different things. I know for a fact that rage doesnt always work. Take my two duels with sturn for example. Wielded a effigy and raged on him, him with no sanc. He raped me the first fight. Second fight, I used a variety of different weapons, and didnt rage until he was pretty hurt, and I kicked his ass. All the advice I see up there, is good advice. But the only way to learn is to try new things.

Who is trying to make themself look smart? From what I see it looks like everyone except for "Guest" and you is/are trying to help. And yes kalist has been by far the most effective Zerker since the changes and if you look at his logs you will see that he thinks during his pk's. So I think Kalist, who I cant speak for, is smart enough not to say get to 50 get uber and have no worries.

Larieb, in your case with sturn, isnt he a storm warrior?, so by wear the effigy and raging you went two handed and he sideswiped you to death? Is that right? Vulns are not always the way to go, yes know them and use them when they apply but only when the situation calls for it.

No one should take any advice from anyone as complete and utter, live and die by truth. listen, test on your own, learn and apply what you learned. Just like life.

jeoparty fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

This is a fucking logboard you faggots. Take it to the forums.

rayor fire giant zerkers pwn everyone -

One thing I know against a Fire Giant zerker... Dont use ice... The second he rages they are gone. You have to use a mental weapon. Last time I fought Rigwarl, my mace of disruption worked extremely well against him. And be absolutely sure you have all the advantages, combat and weapon... If they arent raged, it isnt so bad, but the second they rage, watchout if you dont have advantages. You will get rocked. Just dueling Larieb, I realized when an opponent rages its tough to get yourself situated. Thats it for my advice. Maybe it doesnt work, but its worked for me all the time.

I'll lock this for good measure.