Gundar goes down

1. smush Gundar goes down -
   lol looted the wrong gold object, wanted the cash...
2. smush Gundar goes down -
   gundar attacks again, and I die from his birds, but hes mortally wounded when I get back, it was that close lol. so obviously I unghost on a rabbit(same location for fight) and take the logical course.
3. pip Gundar goes down -
   so from the last logs i just see trash player + lowbie/newbie pker = nydigom
4. smush Gundar goes down -
   lol so from that response you must be gundar. way to take your death personally, but you attacked me twice, I never attacked you. as for the paladin, hes a level above me when I attacked him, and he attacked me after I killed him first time.
   
   then we have this ranger whos decked comes and attack me, and gets what he was asking for, then attacks me again, with two or three pets I might add, and I kill him again anyway.
   
   so pip = decked ranger + goodie who attacks first and dies anyway + QQs in the invokation log like the retard they are.
5. smush Gundar goes down -
   I almost forgot to mention the fact that after I killed you, you get all your stuff back, minus a bracer, then get your falcons, and have a lowbie follow you around so he can vulture EQ from me when you killed me, or at least that was your obvious plan. and talk about lowbie/newbie pker.
6. Xerties Gundar goes down -
   This is textbook Level 3. It's almost like someone is purposefully doing it to make fun of Level 3s.
   
7. smush Gundar goes down -
   xerties you know nothing. this is my first fire giant berserker I havent died 5 times before deleting with. this is the first giant Ive been able to make a kill with. I start fighting with others to try to make myself better, then pip shows up with his rared ranger, the most low level cheese class there is, and tries to kill me. doesnt even succeed at that, then he brings his falcons into it, and tows a lowbie around to vulture eq off me. that fails too. I dont see how thats level 3.
8. Esura Gundar goes down -
   "pip = QQs in the invokation log like the retard they are."
   "xerties you know nothing."
   
   You're really, REALLY not helping your case, smush. Please, just stop. You're making me embarrassed for you.
9. smush Gundar goes down -
   now that I think about it, AR does have a great anti-newbie atmosphere. why wouldnt you guys just say nothing, instead of saying anything at all. seriously. if you dont think its anything good, then move on. I was stating facts. and until pip spoke up it was completely about that. but he made it personal, xertes too.
   
   a new player survives pk attempts, and is able to respond by killing those people instead, and all you can say is "trash + lowbie/newbie pker." and "looks like level 3". great job alienating newbies guys. keep it up Im sure you'll have AR exactly the way you want it. the real trash lowbie pker who knows what theyre doing will stay, the newbies will leave and you can all thank god you wont have to deal with newbies who cant play as well as you, so you can kill eachother all day long. well done.
10. smush Gundar goes down -
    pip QQs when he attempts a gank and fails. Xerties thinks i think Im the greatest player ever.
    
    and you esura, you have the same anti-newbie attitude as them. you've been playing how long here? Im sure you can attribute your attitude to being infected with the atmosphere on AR. glad it only took me 3 months to figure out what kind of people play.
11. Esura Gundar goes down -
    Hey hey hey, calm down. Really. It's a game. I understand that you get frustrated because people seem to talk down to you, but first you need to relax a bit. The fact that you're lashing out against anybody who's saying anything looks like a sign of stress to me. No offense (really, no offense), but it makes you look bad.
    
    Let that sink in for a while, and hopefully by the time I'm done with my next explanatory post, you'll have calmed down a bit.
12. smush Gundar goes down -
    did you not read the section where I said previously to this I sucked? Im sure you can attribute your attitude to being infected with this AR atmosphere, and Im also sure this atmosphere is the reason the good players dont post here anymore, whether helpful comments, logs, or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. guess I'll leave all you angst ridden e-peen crybabies to hate eachother instead of me. so from a newbie who plays AR, have tearing eachother down for no reason other than sadism.
13. Esura Gundar goes down -
    \x93Elite\x94 or \x93veteran\x94 players (like pip and xerties, both of whom you just called incompetent/ignorant) aren\x92t going to give you complements for killing people like Raddan, who is so new that he can barely walk from Haon Dor to Seringale, because it seems like a trivial feat to them. Seriously, they could probably kill him blindfolded. However, it may not be a trivial feat to you, so you expect complements but you\x92re disappointed that you didn\x92t get any. I personally think you did a good job in the learning process, and that you can\x92t be a trash newbie pker if you are genuinely a newbie yourself. Only reason I didn\x92t congratulate you was because, well, I rarely ever post in logs that have nothing to do with me.
    
    So, it\x92s late and I look silly for saying it, but good job. As for constructive criticism, you don\x92t need any yet. Apparently no one at your rank is posing a challenge to you, so all you have to do is rage and that\x92s fine. If you get up to 50, or even at least 36, you might find yourself struggling against certain people and that\x92s when you\x92ll get more constructive criticism or congratulations. At least, I hope so, because that was the case for me, at least. But, no one likes a new player who calls all the vets idiots and crybabies.
14. smush Gundar goes down -
    I called pip incompetent because he's obviously outed himself as the rared ranger who tried to kill me. then he comes back with a lowbie and falcons thinking he'll get his lowbie friend to vulture me. I did lose my bracers to the lowbie, at which point I killed the bleeding to death ranger.
    
    I called Xerties ignorant because he made an ignorant statement based on beliefs in total contrast to the facts above.
    
    I never attacked gundar first, this is the first fight gundar INITIATED with me. gundar = pip. pip = QQs on invokation because he couldnt rape a newbie. so yes Im happy with that.
    
    I didnt call all the vets idiots, notice where I said thats why all the good players dont post here anymore? because I consider them vets, I dont consider these people vets: the ones with all the negativity posting here like calling other people trash gets them off in their emo life, theyre the crybabies, because they cant gank a newbie, theyre ignorant, because they make statements in complete contrast to the facts.
    
    why dont you take a step back and look at the start of this, the EQ in the actual log of the ranger who attacked me, using beast transform. after I kill him first time then he comes back with falcons and a lowbie follower/vulture, then come in here and outs himself as pip calling a newbie a trash player, simply because I killed him again and he didnt get to full loot me.
    
    Raddan didnt do well, so hes probably newbie like me, thats why when he attacked me again and I killed him, I left his stuff alone. and if all anyone can do is call newbies trash for fighting at level 29-30 in a pk mud, that tells me a lot about whos pathetic here.
15. Esura Gundar goes down -
    I don't know a lot of people 'behind the scenes', as in the players behind the characters, but I'm pretty sure at least some good players post here. I could be wrong, but you have to remember that you could be wrong too.
    
    And I don't know why you're so dead certain that pip is Gundar. It's not healthy to speculate, let alone assume, the identities of characters/players. Are you basing it on the fact that he called you a trash PKer? Then if I call you a trash PKer right now, does that automatically mean pip and I are sharing the Gundar account?
    
    Nothing wrong with fighting at any level, it's just a matter of decency or courtesy. Also, you get much less out of fighting at those levels; you'll learn a lot more at 50, or even 40. There's a reason you don't get credit in your PK record for killing before 36. Now, if you just sat at 30 for weeks and PKed pottering newbies and mages, then I would have to agree with pip.
    
    Really, you're very verbally aggressive, and frankly you remind me of the very people you're ridiculing. Before you go and call me some stupid bitch who doesn't know anything, think about what you're saying. I'd certainly like for the playerbase overall to be nicer than it currently is, and I think you do too. But remember, [bumper sticker slogan] change starts with you.[\\bumper sticker slogan]
16. smush Gundar goes down -
    if there's nothing wrong with fighting at any level, why you defend the people who call me trash?
    
    how am I certain pips gundar? the same behavior of the ranger. has he refuted it yet? nope.
    
    did I call you a stupid bitch ever? nope. you said I did, but I didnt.
    
    ever hear if if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all? apparently xerties and pip havent. wouldnt it be a nice mud if people didnt voice their angst ridden self hatred as loathing of others? yes.
17. retard Gundar goes down -
    $10 smush is mandor.
18. marsd Gundar goes down -
    Mant his feels nostalgic, how long has it been since anyone posted any flames here?
    
    Not that I'd like to defend pip or anything, but your obviously senseless and lack of judgemental declaration of Pip being Gundar just because he flamed you is plain biased. Get off your obsessive high throne.
    
    BTW, pip being incompetent made me laugh. Go on, rank to 50 first.
19. Esura Gundar goes down -
    1. "if there's nothing wrong with fighting at any level, why you defend the people who call me trash?"
    There's nothing wrong unless you don't want anybody to call you a trash PKer. Heck, I bet some people call me a trash PKer and at least half of my kills are on 50s. However, pking at the lower level is going to make it much more likely that people think you're just trash, and I can see where they're coming from. You just have to prove them wrong by getting to 50. And to give you an idea of the 50 scene, it's not just a little harder. It's a LOT harder. My win-loss record on my last character before 42 or so was something like 6-1. Record after 50? Something like 3-50.
    
    2. how am I certain pips gundar? the same behavior of the ranger. has he refuted it yet? nope.
    Look at how often pip posts. Now, extrapolating from those observations, predict when he would post next. I'd say at least a week, if he even decides that it's worth responding to your *ahem* level three-esque flaming.
    
    3. "did I call you a stupid bitch ever? nope. YOU SAID I DID, but I didnt. "
    You are wrong. Another case of over-retaliating.
    
    4. "Ever hear if if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all? apparently xerties and pip havent. wouldnt it be a nice mud if people didnt voice their angst ridden self hatred as loathing of others? yes."
    
    Listen to what you JUST said and think about how ironic that was.
20. Esura Gundar goes down -
    "Man this feels nostalgic, how long has it been since anyone posted any flames here?"
    
    And dammit, marsd, I liked it that way. I think every time a flame war happens, the collective soul of AR's playerbase shrivels a little bit.
21. rezakhan Gundar goes down -
    For Smush--I like that you're posting logs, and commenting on them--personally, I prefer any logs to none. But keep in mind, that if you post lowbie logs, you'll have people calling you trash and lowbie pk'er and so forth. Bestjust to ignore it, rather than keep responding. Guessing at people's identities will particularly hurt your cause, b/c if you're right, you're an asshole for outing someone, and if you're wrong, you look like an idiot. Theres no point to it.
    Keep fighting at whatever rank you need to learn, and keep posting logs. Just develop a thicker skin about it--had you never responded to Pip's comment, you would have come across looking like the bigger man and he would have been the asshole. Now it looks like the other way around.
22. kalist Gundar goes down -
    Hey Smush, I think you're doing awesome. You said this is the first giant you've been able to get a kill on? That's awesome. That means you are getting better. The only way you will get better at this game is by fighting and learning the areas. You know what will be a really good feeling? Killing people who criticize you now. If you keep at AR you will become very good and then you will be able to kill people that lipped you off when you were new.
    
    Keep up the good work and have fun killing people.
    
    Personally, I think it's impossible for new people to be 'trash'. New people are fully expected to pk at low levels. Honestly, you can't expect someone brand new to AR to level up to 50 and pk, can you? The word 'trash' is reserved for people who have the capacity to pk at level 50, but keep fighting at low levels because killing newbies boosts their confidence.
23. Clifton Gundar goes down -
    For the record, everyone knows pip is OOC login/logout shitty trash. No reason to call him out for something that's common knowledge.
24. Elaedon Gundar goes down -
    Well, it is a bit annoying when these verbal wars start happening, but I do agree with Kalist, to some extent. I'm not sure, but I think one of the main reasons people are flaming smush is that he's new but he's successful. It could be that he's a fire giant berserker, and everything seems to work out when he rages. Obviously smush wants some attention, but who didn't at this stage? We were all newbies once, I think if everyone just informed him what was commonplace and accepted here, there wouldn't have to be all this goddamn flaming.
    
    But still, smush, I think one of the problems is that your attitude seems to suggest you don't want advice or constructive criticism. If you didn't come off so confident, you could learn a whole lot better.
25. Elaedon Gundar goes down -
    Okay, I think everyone needs to stop flaming smush now, he's new, so I agree with Kalist, he can't be trash.
    
    Smush, there are a few things you could do. I know you probably don't intend it, but your attitude is coming off a bit cocksure, that's making people mad because they don't like an arrogant new player being so successful. Also, if you're looking for good advice, you should post logs that have situations you didn't know what to do in, rather than ones in which your strategy worked out well.
26. pip Gundar goes down -
    It's kind of funny that the one little line I posted got so much damn attention. I used the term "trash" becasuse of my beginning years as a mud player this was the only term I was referred too as even though I waas trying to do the exact same thing you are, although this isn't the first couple of post I have seen from this little guy "learning" on other newbies. The idea is to rank, learn, pk a little and keep on ranking. You can't expect to become a 'elite' player from just one character. From what I see this berserker is still in the same 28-32 range he has been for a while now. So hence the factor of the comments, either way I don't give two shits and a giggle how the mud turns out or if you leave because you got your feelings hurt, it would probably humor me more if you did quit.
    
    Secondly I would like to laugh at Clifton's little comment because the whole "pip is OOC" bullshit has progressed far past where it has needed to be. If anyone should be pointing fingers about the other person being OOC, all fingers should be focused on you (Clifton), Davairus, and a handfull of others in your little circle jerk of a chat room. I mean it's obvious that Clifton is jealous of my supreme mud playing abilities or the fact that I'm just plain and simply the best.
    
    So to conclude this long and extremely worthless post over a dumbass text based game where everybody gets their panties in a wad because of something some person in another part of the world said: my shit doesn't stink.
27. retard Gundar goes down -
    But the "ooc chat room" doesnt even bother to play AR or even talk about it very often. Those people just host a decent logboard and archive IDs for everyone to use. I think its clear who cares and who doesn't pip.
28. smush Gundar goes down -
    pip, im newer than you and I have only played this one 3 of the 5 days he has been created. I log on at a time when I have to solo rank on my own, because there's noone else around. so yeah Im slow to rank. and I have killed 3 people 5 times. only time I multikilled them was when they attacked me first. so take your unjustified comments elsewhere.
29. Mendek Gundar goes down -
    Lowbie PK is fine by me :)
    
    Hey, pip, go tweak out and play AR. Stop using up my bandwidth.
    
    And, retard, thanks for the props.