sidestep FTW

posted on 2007-04-06 21:33:40
39 Drow Ninja
38 Human Warrior
First log post


The circle of trees

[Exits: (east) west]
A small tent is pitched here.
Jhrat is here.
Vesaria is here.
Therrac is sleeping in a small tent.
(Charmed) A beagle is here following its master.

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent}
Jhrat beams broadly!

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} ass ther

Therrac snores loudly.

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} Therrac is hurt and suspicious ... you

can't sneak up.

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder th
Therrac yells 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!'
You fade into existence.
Your stab MASSACRES Therrac!
Your stab MASSACRES Therrac!
Therrac has quite a few wounds.

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} di

The Gods protect Zau from Vesaria.
The Gods protect Zau from Jhrat.
Therrac deflects your stab aside in an ungraceful parry.
Therrac dodges your stab.
Your stab misses Therrac.
You awkwardly parry Therrac's stab with a loud clang.
Therrac has quite a few wounds.

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Vesaria blinks innocently.
Therrac has quite a few wounds.

{450hp 632m 430mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac has fled!
Therrac walks west.
Jhrat walks west.



******chase*****


A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: south west]
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{450hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder therrac
Therrac yells 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!'
You fade into existence.
Therrac blocks your attack with his shield.
Therrac is in excellent condition.

{450hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest shaft defensive}
Therrac dodges your stab.
Therrac dodges your stab.
Therrac blocks your attack with his shield.
Therrac's stab mauls you.
You deflect Therrac's stab aside in an ungraceful parry.
Therrac is in excellent condition.

{427hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest shaft defensive}
Therrac stops using a spiked buckler as a shield.
Therrac stops wielding a ceremonial lookout spear.
Therrac wields a colossal forked voulge.
Therrac is in excellent condition.

{427hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} di
Therrac is blinded by the dirt in his eyes!
Your kicked dirt grazes Therrac.
Therrac has a few scratches.

{427hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac dodges your stab.
Therrac's stab decimates you!
Therrac's stab misses you.
Therrac's stab mauls you.
You dance around Therrac's stab and easily dodge it.
Therrac has a few scratches.

{377hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac has fled!
Therrac walks south.

{377hp 632m 415mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} s
A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: north south]
A large toadstool grows nearby.

{377hp 632m 412mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder therrac
They aren't here.

{377hp 632m 412mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} s
On the river bank in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: north west]
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{377hp 632m 409mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder therrac
Therrac yells 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!'
You exploit your weapon advantage to deliver an unblockable wild attack.
Your wild stab DISMEMBERS Therrac!
Therrac awkwardly parries your stab with a loud clang.
Therrac has some small wounds and bruises.

{377hp 632m 409mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
You exploit your weapon advantage to deliver an unblockable wild attack.
Your wild stab injures Therrac.
Your stab devastates Therrac!
You parry Therrac's stab.
Therrac's stab mauls you.
Therrac's stab devastates you!
Therrac has some small wounds and bruises.

{324hp 632m 409mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} side

Therrac has fled!
Therrac walks west.

{329hp 632m 448mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} You aren't fighting anyone.

{329hp 632m 448mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} w
A dead end path on the river bank in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: east]
The fuzz on the grey tree to your north seems to be falling off in places.
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{329hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} Raksforg yells 'Lord of Anguish,

consume my soul with your unholy might!'

{329hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder therrac
Therrac yells 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!'
Your stab devastates Therrac!
Your stab maims Therrac!
Therrac has quite a few wounds.

{329hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Your stab decimates Therrac!
Your stab devastates Therrac!
Therrac's stab mauls you.
Therrac's stab misses you.
Therrac's stab decimates you!
Therrac has quite a few wounds.

{282hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} die
side
I don't think much is to be achieved by that.
Therrac has quite a few wounds.

{282hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} You sidestep completely around Therrac to

stab him from behind.
Your sidestep *** DEMOLISHES *** Therrac!
As Therrac reels in pain, you duck in low to trip him.
You trip Therrac and he goes down!
Your trip scratches Therrac.
Therrac has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

{282hp 632m 426mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac parries your stab.
You dodge Therrac's stab.
Therrac's stab decimates you!
Therrac's stab mauls you.
Therrac has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

{233hp 632m 426mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} side

Your stab maims Therrac!
Therrac's stab maims you!
You dodge Therrac's stab.
Therrac's stab mauls you.
Therrac has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

{178hp 632m 426mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac has fled!
Therrac walks east.

{178hp 632m 426mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} You aren't fighting anyone.

{178hp 632m 426mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} e
murder therrac
On the river bank in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: north west]
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{178hp 632m 423mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} Therrac yells 'Help! I am being

attacked by someone!'
Your stab devastates Therrac!
Therrac couldn't dodge your stab but you miss by inches.
Therrac has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

{178hp 632m 423mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac has fled!
Therrac walks north.

{178hp 632m 423mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} side
n
You aren't fighting anyone.

{178hp 632m 423mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder therrac
A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: north south]
A large toadstool grows nearby.
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{178hp 632m 420mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} Therrac yells 'Help! I am being

attacked by someone!'
Your stab devastates Therrac!
Therrac looks pretty hurt.

{178hp 632m 420mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac gets a wild look in his eyes.
Therrac has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

{178hp 632m 420mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Therrac awkwardly parries your stab with a loud clang.
You dodge Therrac's stab.
You dance around Therrac's stab and easily dodge it.
Therrac's stab decimates you!
Therrac has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

{151hp 632m 420mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed} side
You sidestep completely around Therrac to stab him from behind.
Your sidestep *** DEMOLISHES *** Therrac!
As Therrac reels in pain, you duck in low to trip him.
Your trip misses Therrac.
Therrac looks pretty hurt.

{151hp 632m 401mv 18874tnl forest shaft two_handed}
Your stab devastates Therrac!
Your stab maims Therrac!
Therrac has fled!
Therrac limps north.

{151hp 632m 401mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} n
murder therrac

The white aura around your body fades.

{166hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent}
Therrac limps in.

{166hp 632m 445mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: south west]

{166hp 632m 442mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} They aren't here.

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{166hp 632m 442mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent}
Therrac limps in.

{166hp 632m 442mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} s
A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: north south]
A large toadstool grows nearby.

{166hp 632m 439mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} n
A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: south west]
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{166hp 632m 436mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} murder therrac
Therrac yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Zau!'
Therrac blocks your attack and attempts to strike at the brief opening.
Therrac's riposte DISEMBOWELS you!
Your stab maims Therrac!
Therrac has fled!
Therrac limps south.

{121hp 632m 436mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} s
murder therrac
A small path in the deep, dark forest

[Exits: north south]
A large toadstool grows nearby.
(White Aura) Therrac is here.

{121hp 632m 433mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} Therrac yells 'Help! I am being

attacked by Zau!'
Therrac turns your attack against you.
Therrac's stab DISEMBOWELS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Therrac wears a spiked buckler as a shield.
Therrac is in awful condition.

{75hp 632m 433mv 18874tnl forest shaft defensive}
Therrac parries your stab.
You nimbly dodge Therrac's stab with a practiced maneuver.
Therrac's stab DISMEMBERS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Therrac is in awful condition.

{19hp 632m 433mv 18874tnl forest shaft defensive} sid

Therrac takes a vicious swipe at you with his shield.
You dodge Therrac's sideswipe.
Therrac is in awful condition.

{19hp 632m 433mv 18874tnl forest shaft defensive} You sidestep around Therrac's attacks to stab

him in the side.
Your sidestep MASSACRES Therrac!
Therrac is DEAD!!
Therrac's fingers are severed from his hand.

{19hp 632m 414mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} acu
get coin cor
You are no longer counterbalanced.
You feel relieved as the tension drains from your muscles.

{175hp 562m 414mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} You get 3623 gold coins from the

corpse of Therrac.

{175hp 562m 414mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} look cor
You do not see that here.

{188hp 570m 448mv 18874tnl forest no opponent no opponent} exa cor
The corpse of Therrac holds:
a mithril helm
a set of mithril leggings
a pair of mithril boots
silver plate
a mithril girth
red dragon arm guards
( 2) a teeth necklace
( 2) a dwarven golden ring
a Big Ol'Pack Sack
a thick animal hide
(Humming) a thin-bladed axe
( 2) a glinting silver bracelet
(Glowing) the rod of neutrality
(Humming) gauntlets of ogre power
a deep red stone
(Glowing) a ceremonial lookout spear
a spiked buckler
( 5) (Glowing) a potion of travelers restoration
a colossal forked voulge
(Glowing) a potion of monster repulsion
( 3) a purple potion


  1. bassball sidestep FTW -
    How emarrassing, I don't think there is ever a log of me actually winning, but it does happen, even if it is somewhat occasional

    Therrac takes a vicious swipe at you with his shield.
    You dodge Therrac's sideswipe.

    that would have killed him.... lucky...

    Oh an rogue dirt kick sucks too by the way, was blind the entire fight, sure it might have been because I was fleeing, but I was disadvantaged and inferior.... should I have stayed in the fight?
  2. WJ dirt -
    I don't know a lot, but I know that. You get screwed if you flee so much like that. That wasn't "rogue dirt", that was you fleeing. Everytime you flee it adds a round or two on to your dirt rub time.
  3. Mandor sidestep FTW -
    which is why I consider it funny people says rogues need their module.

    rogue dirt + weapon/combat style trigger change = cheese win.

    at that point your best bet is to flee, let him murder again if you get lagged,and flee right after he murders. the lag of you fleeing should wear off before or as his does, at which point you can blind run until you can see to quaff recall.
  4. pip sidestep FTW -
    help reflex
  5. retard sidestep FTW -
    HAHA Mandor

    Thats right post a reply to one log, ONE LOG, and use it as your heavenly example to say that rogue are fine. Because sidestep did a number on someone too stupid to get rid of dirt an effective way.

    Oh but wait. Lets think about this.

    Sidestep = 2 round lag?
    Unreflexed Dirt, fought smartly = 3-4 rounds long?
    Blind fighting and two or three uber defences?
    Ooooh dearie me.

    Now what happens when you get into the "who can switch/skill" worst argument? The warrior wins every time. Switch/hobble bs versus rogue is gg. Proven by all the thieves that gave up after dying 3 times in 30-40 minutes. If it hasnt happened to you, you just havent met a warrior that knows about it yet.
  6. Mandor sidestep FTW -
    All you're telling me is that you dont know how to play rogues.

    Its funny you consider blind fighting so great, because the moment you're blind and staying in combat is when a rogue should be switching to weapon/combat superior for a double advantage getting in more damage by overcoming defenses, and getting extra autoskills for every sidestep. Or am I wrong and blind fighting also allows you to switch weapons and shields without being able to see them?
  7. Esura sidestep FTW -
    Mandor, you are very wrong. I hate to sound pompous, but this is coming from someone who's played a rogue for 200+ hours at the level 50 range, taking tips from an imm. While the dirt+disarm combo sounds good in theory, in practice it's just not enough. If you insist that you know more than retard, then extensive debate is probably not going to help you understand the situation, but I'll answer your question. No, blind fighting does not let a warrior gain combat/weapon advantages, but it does prevent dirt from lowering his defenses any. And, by the time your own lag from dirting is over, you'll have maybe 1-3 rounds left to disarm. If you can pull an uncanny or clobber, then good. But the warrior has enough hp to take one or two rounds of being disarmed. Sidestep is out of the question; it'll get you killed. Anyway, once they rub out dirt, then they hobble you and you die. Simple as that. In fact, if you dirted them while they had combat advantage, they could hobble you while blinded and you'll still die. Oh, and needless to say, if you ever, heaven forbid, MISS dirt, then they hobble you and you die.

    Also, anytime they're blinded from dirt they can just dirt kick you back to prevent you from using clobber/uncanny.

    There's more detail involved in the myriad of ways that you don't know what you're talking about, but I don't need to post that here when you're still in the "I think I'm the expert on rogues because I killed someone at the 39th rank" stage.
  8. Mandor sidestep FTW -
    more kills than deaths, in the 40-50 pk range, so yeah. dont presume you know what you're talking about either.
  9. Akika sidestep FTW -
    So...yeah? So what? You can't have hit level 50 range yet, so more kills than deaths at rank 39 (or 40 or 41 or whatever) really isn't impressive at all. Get to 50 or at least a 50's range, fight an experienced warrior, post a log of that, and then let's talk.

    This is Esura by the way.
  10. bassball sidestep FTW -
    Wow... I understand I did some stuff wrong, and now that I think about and read some of these posts, shoulda ate the sidesteps and just waited dirt to leave, but jeez thanks 'RETARD'

    'someone too stupid'

  11. retard sidestep FTW -
    If you put a warrior in a worst case scenario - dual wielding against a thief against a two handed clobber, he will still be able to bounce back from that easily with double/hobble.

    But why, when you can just overbear a sword? Now a thief has to wear an exotic and all he can do is a crappy uncanny attack, or disarm fails, and your opportunity to switch/hobble is usually just a matter of waiting for the thief trying one of those shitty options, since his dirt is going to be out while he's still in the lag from them. Oh yeah, and if you hobble the thief, he can't even use his weapon t ype skills. That means he has nothing left, and can't dodge. Its like that scene in spiderman, "Bonesaws got you for two rounds, two rounds of PAIN, oooh yeah!"
  12. nismick sidestep FTW -
    All good pointers glad I posted this log .
  13. nismick sidestep FTW -
    Well acutaly I have no idea what Mandor means.
  14. retard sidestep FTW -
    The point that got missed is that warriors CAN switch their style while blinded. they type "double" and they will instantly doublegrip, including release their shield/dual as needed. Its always been like that, but now its kinda pimp compared to what that dealt before.

    As for type IMO there is too much variance, you get your dirted clobber in and it disarms maces that way even, so that kinda forces you onto swords. Luckily uncanny attack sucks. Even luckier, you can just prevent the clobber totally with your double/hobble, since that disables thief skills.
  15. nismick confused -
    I think I understand what Mandor means now.