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This is to show Olyn also that I'm not the only one who says that Rosellin's a lying-- person. You look at almost ANY fucking fight with the Knights in real time and you'll see the Knights logging in together, logging out together, ganging others together, and breaking pretty much every fucking rule there is. Rosellin is PARTICULARLY guilty of this.

<676hp 596m 371mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'Knights have no honor anymore.'

<676hp 596m 371mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply I noticed.You tell Tepesh 'I noticed.'

<676hp 596m 371mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply odd that Legion is the more respectable of the two.
You tell Tepesh 'Odd that Legion is the more respectable of the two.'

<676hp 603m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'Indeed before you showed up the other day Jaqr and Rose was double teaming Xul.'

<676hp 624m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply I know.
You tell Tepesh 'I know.'

<676hp 624m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'When I spoke with Jaqr about it he said that it didnt matter and that he needed to die.'

<676hp 624m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply they attacked Xul together.
You tell Tepesh 'They attacked Xul together.'

<676hp 624m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply and they attacked Norethale together.
You tell Tepesh 'And they attacked Norethale together.'

<676hp 624m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply and they attacked Janae together.
You tell Tepesh 'And they attacked Janae together.'

<676hp 624m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'Indeed I watched.'

<676hp 626m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply and then attacked me.
You tell Tepesh 'And then attacked me.'

<676hp 626m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm> reply then Rosellin complained that "everyone's" attacking her unprovoked.
You tell Tepesh 'Then Rosellin complained that "everyone's" attacking her unprovoked.'

<676hp 626m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'Jaqr was fighting Xul one on one and it looked like a decent fight then Rose came and it became a two on one.'

<676hp 626m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'Nore came and tried to help xul and they both started attacking her and then you.'

<676hp 626m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'And Knights say they have honor.'

<676hp 626m 376mv no opponent no opponent forest calm>
Tepesh tells you 'Its like saying you love knights.'

gadlo A conversation of Knights -

most the names in this log are Anathema as far as I know, so ganging them isn't really an issue... and from what I've seen from some of the knights, doubt they would win a 2 vs 1 anyway so I really don't see what the big deal is anyway.

onaeth A conversation of Knights -

I wasn't anathema and Norethale wasn't either. I bet Janae was. Don't know about Xul.

tepesh A conversation of Knights -

i think what it is about is him getting kicked cause of rose

blarg A conversation of Knights -

This is because I removed him from the cabal.

Rationalizing that cheating is ok because someone else is doing it will get you nowhere. Do the right thing. Report them and maintain your own integrity. We made efforts to stamp out the ooc circle jerk insurgency that developed a few years ago and it's about time to do it again. I know the other immortals dislike this behavior and I won't tolerate it in my cabal.

Corzen A conversation of Knights -

The problem with this, Gadlo, is that it affects other cabals and when the truth gets stretched from Rosellin and Jaqr attacking multiple people together then complaining that they are getting "ganged" which from what I read here they were attacked by Xul and Norethale together and probly Janae with them but then attack Onaeth and Onaeth goes to attack, under policy set by myself and Olyn he looks like he is "ganging" when he isn't and then Rosellin saying she was in the temple for a long time when Onaeth was simply looking for purples on his way to darkhaven and gaining as pet on his way to defend and if anything Xul is in the wrong under help protection money here. He interferred in a Legion Kill in the situation that Onaeth got booted for. I personally would have liked to hear Onaeth's side of the story before kicking him. And I promise you at some point if this continues with Knight's I will be speaking to Olyn looking to allow me to unleash the Army on them in all situations without mercy. I personally will not longer allow them to go re-equip before I go invade take the cross and force them a second or third or fourth death.

Onaeth A conversation of Knights -

Oh, forgot to say.

Rosellin said that it's okay for Knights to gangbang but not Legions. And Rosellin, if you dare lie about it, I have the log of that, too.

So two lvl 50's ganging 40's and they're okay. Then I get ACCUSED of ganging a 50 with another 4-, and don't even get a chance to defend myself. That's what I was saying.

In the end I have taken new precausions about who I allow entry and I am personally trying to eliminate any ooc bs involving Legion as it takes away from AR in general imo.

rosellin and Jaqr can gang Xul and when Xul hides and heals they attack a shaman together after they kill the shaman they go after a thief and then rosellin goes and intrudes and omg onaeth is kicked.

If you ask me this smells kinda fishy and it aint the tuna.
Olyn I know you have the final say in Legion but really this is a bunch of bullshit if anything Rosellin and jaqr should be booted for ganging people when Knights are supposed be honor bound and fighting 1 on 1 not 2 on 1.

If I were in charge of Knights I would kick them for ooc bs if I came across it but I'm not. I'm in charge of Legion. If you chat or IM with people from the game, I suggest you NOT talk about current characters or who's on or any of that. It makes you look like pussies and takes away from the game for the rest of us who play by the rules.

Olyn I agree with the ooc who list this and that bullshit but that is not what this is about, this is about a knight who gangs with another knight and when the people she gangs attack her like xul and the shaman she gets pissy and tells you this and that.

I know your not in charge of Knights but who is? there is no knight immortal atleast an active one and from all the bs knights are doing why dont you talk with the high up immortals to get the ooc shit/knights ganging every evil in range under control?

pip A conversation of Knights -

I think the problem is that there isn't anyone to watch over Knights. The fact is, Davairus and the other Immortals are busy trying to make everything better so they can't put their full attention on the Knights. In my opinion, none of the cabals are acting like they should. Legion is trying to be Warlord and Knights is trying to be Legion. Vaelyn has Justice under control and Keepers are unseen so hooray for that..

that's just me, but who gives a shit what i have to say? Oh that's right..everyone does!

For the record, I didn't do anything OOC, thank you. I'm sorry you think I did.

Rosellin A conversation of Knights -

For the record asking me for a who list before logging in and trying to gang me when I don't give you one, is OOC.

Two knights, fighting Onaeth, Norethale and Xul at the same time is knights gangbanging? Janae wasnt involved in that one. Especially when Jaqr cant touch the shaman? Thats just evening the playing field.

jaqr A conversation of Knights -

Tepesh, like I told you at the time, you're accusing Rose and I of gangbanging is incorrect.

People talking about me doing OOC stuff is also incorrect, and I really take offense to anyone saying so since you have no Proof and you're just saying so to try to further your already incorrect arguements about me.

In this instance, I was logged in for 33 minutes (I have it and every one of my logged in sessions logged for verification and posting purposes) before Rose came along. So don't say that Rose and I OOC'd and logged in together, because that is simply not true.

Rose and I did not gang the shaman. Why not? Because the shaman was not in my fucking PK range you morons.

People, please remember: Anathema means Knights will gang you. Man up, prepare for it, or don't go anathema. Simple as that. Xul wasn't Anathema but he has refused the oath AND helped Janae who IS anathema, so we won't be cutting him any slack either.

Olyn, if you want to send me a note in-game about your observation of my actions (since none of the other immortals are watching Knights, as mentioned), PLEASE do. I've already stated here I'm a first-time Knight and I'm honestly really trying my best to be a good one.

janae-nae A conversation of Knights -

Your citizens made me anathema. hrmph.

Did you kill one?

loaron A conversation of Knights -

This is the same old story just a different day. Ganging makes you look like a pussy. If your going for the I am the world's biggest pussy RP, then gang away. If think that you are a decent player then don't do it (that's also how you get respect). Ganging has led to countless deletes, so think about your actions.

If I cannot defend myself, Can I become a noble?

Since you're a Darkwalker, no. Only gooides can be nobles. But, you can take the Oath once you lose your Anathema flag. Which as I explained to you in-game, will occur once you die to a Knight or are pardoned by a Noble or the Executor (of which there currently isn't one).

The specific battle policies of legion aren't public domain so I won't comment on that here but protected stay protected at the discretion of higher rank legions so failure to do as they say/want may mean their protection is revoked.

to my recollection only Nobles can pardon Anathema. the executor decides who is noble or not but can't pardon anathema himself. What he can do is exile citizens from valour.

I've seen no problem with you Jaqr. I think you're doing a great job the way you fight with balls of steel. You don't win that often but learning something is a victory in itself.

Clifton A conversation of Knights -

So people you think its okay to spew bitchy whiny crap all over invokation? Cause if so you really have no place in this conversation and can back off right now. i might not like everything that gets posted on here, but invokation tries to be is a place for logs, how can you be against that?

iolo A conversation of Knights -

Holy shit Clifton, I shit you not that just 5 minutes ago I read that post on collegehumor.com. Hahahaha!

rekkakun A conversation of Knights -

Eh... I think all the comments are getting off topic. I have seen how Onaeth worked, I dont think he did OOC much. For someone to be kicked without even a chance to explain sounds wrong. Ganking is fun, getting ganked sucks. but that's life.

And why did Onaeth get booted just because Rosellin claims he didn't defend his cabal? Or running into the cabal when he got attacked? I remembered some shit where I attacked a legion and he ran straight into the cabal guardian, and u guys told me i'm a dwarf warrior fighting an invoker looking for a cheap kill, so it's perfectly decent for him to do that. Dunno, and just based on Rosellin's words without even hearing Onaeth, he gets booted. Oh well, Legion politics.

its just a bunch of he said she said shit.

From what I saw Jaqr was fighting Xul one on one and it was a decent fight and as soon as rosellin logged in she went and it became a 2 on 1.

Then Onaeth logs in (dont know if it was ooc or what) and all this bullshit happened. Really no point in taking sides anymore seeing as how he deleted so really it dont matter.

vyoran A conversation of Knights -

i don't log on ooc. between me and jaqr that's 40% of Knights, almost a quorum.

Grimmy A conversation of Knights -

"This is because I removed him from the cabal.

Rationalizing that cheating is ok because someone else is doing it will get you nowhere. Do the right thing. Report them and maintain your own integrity. We made efforts to stamp out the ooc circle jerk insurgency that developed a few years ago and it's about time to do it again. I know the other immortals dislike this behavior and I won't tolerate it in my cabal.
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At least these noobs took the rational approach and just started the OOC gangbang uncaballed. everyone's cool with that.