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<960/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city calm no opponent no opponent> murder Arvar
Arvar turns your attack against you.
Arvar's cleave MUTILATES you!
Arvar's flesh is seared by the flames from a heavy longsword.
Arvar is blinded by smoke!
Your flaming bite scratches Arvar.
Arvar has a few scratches.

<922/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> murder Arvar

You manage to dodge Arvar's cleave with a lot of effort.
You block Arvar's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte decimates Arvar!
Arvar parries your slash with a hasty swing from his off-hand weapon.
Your slash MUTILATES Arvar!
Arvar has a few scratches.

<922/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> af

Arvar adopts a defensive posture.
Arvar has a few scratches.

<922/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> You scan all around.
You scan east.
You scan west.
Arvar has a few scratches.

<922/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> You do the best you can!
Arvar's cleave MUTILATES you!
Your slash MUTILATES Arvar!
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<884/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> You do the best you can!
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<884/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> You are affected by the following:
Power: atonement : modifies damroll by 4 for 1 hours
: modifies hitroll by 4 for 1 hours
Spell: cabal sanctuary: lasts for 6 hours
Skill: warcry : modifies save_vs_spell by -6 for 4 hours
: modifies hitroll by 6 for 4 hours
Set : Treant Thews : modifies hp by 30 permanently
: modifies hitroll by 4 permanently
: modifies damroll by 4 permanently
fle
: modifies strength by 4 permanently
: modifies constitution by 4 permanently
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<884/960hp 439/439m 452/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> fle
You flee from combat!
Centre of the Arena

[Exits: north east (south) west]
An undead slave walks in.

<884/960hp 439/439m 450/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> You aren't fighting anyone.

<884/960hp 439/439m 450/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> w
w
whe
The Path of War

[Exits: east west]
(Charmed) A giant falcon is here.
(White Aura) Arvar is here.
An undead slave walks in.

<884/960hp 439/439m 448/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent>
Arvar relaxes out of his defensive posture.

<884/960hp 439/439m 448/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> double
The Path of War

[Exits: east west]
An undead slave walks in.

<884/960hp 439/439m 446/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> Players near you:
Jaran Entrance to the Arena
Adwaud The Path of War

<884/960hp 439/439m 446/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> e
You stop using a Knight Melancholic's shield as a shield.
You tighten your grip around a heavy longsword.
Arvar walks in.
The battle falcon flies in.

<884/970hp 439/439m 446/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> murder Arvar
The Path of War

[Exits: east west]
An undead slave walks in.
Arvar walks in.
The battle falcon flies in.

<884/970hp 439/439m 444/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive no opponent no opponent> Your slash misses Arvar.
Arvar's flesh is seared by the flames from a heavy longsword.
Your flaming bite scratches Arvar.
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<884/970hp 439/439m 444/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield>
You dodge Arvar's cleave.
You thrust Arvar's pierce aside in a skillful parry.
Arvar's shield arm is numbed.
You dodge Arvar's cleave.
Arvar's cleave DISEMBOWELS you!
Your slash DISEMBOWELS Arvar!
Your slash DISEMBOWELS Arvar!
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<841/970hp 439/439m 444/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> hobble

Arvar adopts a defensive posture.
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<841/970hp 439/439m 444/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield>
You are hungry.
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<852/970hp 439/439m 474/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> You strike Arvar with your weapon and attempt to hobble hi
m.
Your hobble wounds Arvar.
Arvar clutches his leg painfully as he begins to hobble.
Arvar has some small wounds and bruises.

<852/970hp 439/439m 474/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield>
Arvar's cleave misses you.
Your slash DISEMBOWELS Arvar!
Arvar has quite a few wounds.

<852/970hp 439/439m 474/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> nod

Arvar's shield arm looks better.
You deflect Arvar's cleave aside in an ungraceful parry.
Your slash MUTILATES Arvar!
Your slash DISEMBOWELS Arvar!
Arvar's flesh is seared by the flames from a heavy longsword.
Your flaming bite scratches Arvar.
Arvar has quite a few wounds.

<852/970hp 439/439m 474/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> say Me be done.
You nod.
Arvar has quite a few wounds.

<852/970hp 439/439m 474/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield> You say 'Me be done.'
Arvar rolls his eyes, disgusted.
Arvar has quite a few wounds.

<852/970hp 439/439m 474/474v 11734g 25593tnl day city aggressive shaft dual_wield>
Arvar stops hobbling around.

adwaud Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

Alright, A few things I Would like to point out here. Firstly, Atonement affects me.... Sorry about that. It was supposed to be fixed. Dav, I think ya need to fix that.

Secondly, The damage done here is about the same as the damage done against Dargrich. I switched my weapon to those shitty weapons, just forging them. This was a damage test done by me. Hope it helps in all the balancing...

bassball Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

So I'm not even a mark, or uncompliant, or whatever it is. And he's still getting atonement, and stuff. Sheesh. lol.

It is working as it is supposed to bass. Atonement scales to each and everyone. Giving bonus based on ur equipment, rating and stuff. yet again, I dunno how much I can reveal, so I'll let Dav do the talking. I'm not supposed to even have it in the first place...

Groq Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

Shouldn't show cabal powers in your affects if your going to post logs. Just write a note to dav about it saying you can see it your affects and all that.

Mandor Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

4 hit and 4 dam dont really seem like uber goodness to me..

maybe atonement just needs to be +hit

Hm... I didn't want to post this log. But Jaran told me to post a partial log here. So I did it. There's a spike of people rage deleting recently. Dargrich rage deleted after dying to me after telling me this is ridiculous etc etc. That's why i'm doing this shit to try balancing things better. I was thinking showing the effects of atonement against Arvar's set could give a better picture of things?

I could be wrong, and maybe it was wrong of me to show the effects.

hampster Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

+4 +4 against Thews?

Hampster: It's more than just seeing whether he has TT or not. It counts rare and other factors.

yes it does cler thinngs up adwaud, now people have to eat their "imba!" screaming words, since +4 +4 is pfff.

use antineutral weapons people.

I find it hard to believe its an ongoing problem with keeper that has yet to be solved.

How have neutral justices and uncaballeds fared in the past, before keeper? Did they whip ass more than others?

jaran Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

Ehh what I meant for you to do was post the part of the log that showed affects in your note - not on a public log board!

Adwaud Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

It seems I got the wrong impression. Damn. Heh.

+4/+4 is imba? WTF? Ask Arvar to paste his hit/dam and compare? I'm sure his hit/dam is close if not better...

azazhog Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

Compare with what? We dont see your hit/dam from this log. And why would Arvars be better?

Because he has rares that he gathered and gambled etc to boost his hit/dam. So yeah. Anyway, i'm not here to argue whether 4/4 is imbalance or not. IMO, it's alright. It's a misunderstanding of Jaran's intention that got this up anyway. Yeah.

well we'd have to see arvar post his affects to see what atonement does to him, but +4's on the side of the keeper is quite tame compared to what people think atonement is so powerful

He has 1 rare to boost his hit/dam, spiked collar. He does have rare weapons but I bet your weapons have more hit/dam than his.

avg dam matters more for enhanced damage classes though..

pip Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

dude STFU about Keeper skills. They are for that cabal ONLY. This public testing is not allowed. And FYI - Atonement is SUPPOSE to affect the Keeper's hit and damage. It went through some testing from affecting opponent to affecting Keeper, so that is the way it's suppose to be.

true, but clearly things are still not sitting well, how long has keepers been open, and its been a pwn fest against everyone else since that day?

Yeah 4 4 from atonement is pretty little. But if you read previous posts Retard said that atonement isn't even supposed to work unless you're AT WAR with Keepers. I was NOT at war. So it shouldn't have worked at all. Also, the 4 4 is small because I'm wearing thews, not uber decked crazy like Azazhog.

What everyone is failing to realize is HIS WEAPON SMOKE BLINDED ME. That kind of blind is based on HOURS not ROUNDS. It didn't lag him AT ALL to blind me. And it happened in a round where HE DID NOT EVEN HIT ME. Does that sound right, fair and exceptable to everyone else? Cause personally I thought it was a huge load of crap.

garistha Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

like i said. let the bitching begin again.

xuberone Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

bassball, no ill intention towards you but you sound so bitter, like issit due to keepers stopping you from hoarding that it seems like you are on a vengence towards them?

rezakhan Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

Aren't there rare weapons that blind like that also? So it's not like such a thing is wholly unheard of.

I am bitter. But I'm not a hoarder. Hate when fetchers call me that. I pk anyone and everyone I can inside rp rules. (neutral justice, kinda limited, which blows) So I'm not a hoarder. And I'm not pissed off and bitter about not being able to have rares. I could go get some right now. What I'm pissed off about is that the stupid keepers rape people with rares. They don't even need gear. And Adwaud isn't bad. But I'm a pretty good pker. So when he can rape the balls off me. I get PISSED. Because this game is supposed to be balanced. If I get beat by someone who's spent days getting uber gear.. ok. If I get beat by someone like pip who's way better then me. Sweet. But when I get my crap handed to me by joe blow in TT I get pissed.

so you're pissed because you get ya crap handed to you by me who kind of suck in pk-ing. Is that all you're pissed about?

der-da-der Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

What he's trying to say is that he thinks he is better than you Adwaud. Because he thinks he is better than you he is supposed to be able to beat you. He can't beat you for the simple and ONLY reason that you are a keeper.

If he gets rared out and because he is better than you he is supposed to beat you but he can't because of your leet Keeper skills.

While we're at it, Mullet is better than you too. He is angry because he is better than you and those damn keeper skills beat him too.

While we're talking about those super keeper skills:

Why didn't you cast your SUPER KEEPER BUBBLE and smite those gangbangers and fly away with all their leet rares. You fail, you died with a Keeper. Delete delete.

Haha. What a fucking joke. Then I must be complaining my ass off when I fought Bassball's Farist. Who took my shaman's every single maladiction spell and stood there atonement MANGLE me through sanc with -23hit/-23dam/-120hp penalty for 23 hours. Fucking noob ass stood there blinded, weakened, poisoned, plagued, deteriorated, cursed, hysteriaed, and just spammed atonement and beat me with eq = to Azazhog's set now. Do you see me complaining about it? That was how fucking OP?

here we go.

Right, lost my cool there. Let people like der-a-der think they're super cool.

That was dripping with sarcasm, lost it in text I guess..

Hoarder Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

der-da-der is simply a moron, dont mind him.

And Adwaud isn't bad. But I'm a pretty good pker. So when he can rape the balls off me. I get PISSED.

But when I get my crap handed to me by joe blow in TT I get pissed.

Am I really? These are direct quotes, I think it's pretty clear what he is saying. I think everyone needs to put the ego on the back shelf and have some faith in the IMM Staff. If you can't do that then it's time to pack it up. The fundamentals of the game aren't going to change because YOU think they are broken.

Holy balls. You guys are all kind of retarded. And people did cry like babies about atonement from back then you doofus. That's why it's not the same anymore. Unfortunately, it still needs fixed. Dav is inventing something completely original here(as far as I know) so there's a lot of kinks to work through. If anyone thinks it's perfect in it's current form, I'm sorry. But you're an idiot... If I wasn't committed to Arvar, and leading justice, I'd roll up a keeper. And I'd probably own with him. Sure, Adwaud died to a 3 on 1. No one can stand against that, Keeper or not.

I'm not saying they are invincible. Cause they're certainly aren't. People have killed them before. I've killed them before. I just think it's super lame that a majority of the time I get my butt handed to me. NO ONE besides Keepers rapes me that hard... Because I've got a little bit of talent at pk-ing(mostly through years of playing this stupid game) I'm not saying Adwuad is a piss-poor pker. He's not. I'm not saying I'm super awesome hardcore balls out WINZOR. Because I'm definitely not. What I'm saying is I am good enough that if the game was balanced. I wouldn't lose to Keepers 9 times out of 10. If you still don't understand. And if you still think I'm whining and complaining and stupid. Then I don't give a damn about you at all. Because I'm not wrong here...

kalist Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

Keepers are balanced.

Dwarf warriors are overpowered.

Oh, except for that weapon - smoke - blinding thing. That's gay.

retard Keeper Experiment - Adwaud's POV -

eh,

thanks for the report on that fire effect blinding. i wasn't aware of that. i will take a look over the numbers for atonement again this weekend. i based it on theoretical values, not on what the equipment is, so its good to get out and try this stuff and see if its shaking out correctly. but i would like you to keep in mind that it was supposed to "turn the tables" on an equipment advantage when it released, because there wernt any other skills back then