Are you freaking kidding me? He's in fucking guild-issue and yet chain-lag still wins the day. Fucking sucks.
<625/650hp 768/841m 218mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day
You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Vendert!'
Vendert's turmoil MUTILATES you!
[** ] You block Vendert's attack with your shield.
[** ] You block Vendert's attack with your shield.
Vendert has a few scratches.
<585/650hp 768/841m 218mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day n
No way! You are still fighting!
Vendert's turmoil DISEMBOWELS you!
Vendert's grep misses you.
Vendert's grep devastates you!
Your punch mauls Vendert.
Your punch mauls Vendert.
Your punch decimates Vendert!
Vendert has a few scratches.
<506/650hp 768/841m 218mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flee
You flee from combat!
Meadow Lane
[Exits: north south west]
<506/650hp 768/841m 217mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day sanc
You are surrounded by a white aura.
<506/650hp 693/841m 217mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
Vendert walks in.
<506/650hp 693/841m 217mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day
Vendert walks north.
<506/650hp 693/841m 217mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day They aren't here.
Vendert walks in.
<506/650hp 693/841m 217mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day n
You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Vendert!'
[** ] You block Vendert's attack with your shield.
Vendert's grep misses you.
Vendert's grep misses you.
[* ] You block Vendert's attack with your shield.
Vendert has a few scratches.
<506/650hp 693/841m 217mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day No way! You are still fighting!
Vendert has a few scratches.
<506/650hp 693/841m 217mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flee
You flee from combat!
Under a steel arch
[Exits: east west]
<506/650hp 693/841m 216mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day
<523/655hp 708/841m 261mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
Vendert walks in.
<523/655hp 708/841m 261mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day Your wrath devastates Vendert!
[** ] Vendert dodges your freezing bite.
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<523/655hp 708/841m 261mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day murder $$
flst
Vendert strikes you with his weapon and attempts to hobble you.
Vendert's hobble injures you.
Vendert's turmoil injures you.
[** ] Vendert parries your wrath.
Your wrath decimates Vendert!
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<496/655hp 708/841m 261mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day You do the best you can!
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<496/655hp 708/841m 261mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day You summon forth a stream of flame.
Your flamestrike injures Vendert.
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<496/655hp 688/841m 261mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
Vendert's turmoil wounds you.
Vendert's grep misses you.
Vendert's wild turmoil hits you.
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
[* ] Vendert parries your freezing bite.
[* ] Vendert dodges your wrath.
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<469/655hp 688/841m 261mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flst
You summon forth a stream of flame.
Your flamestrike wounds Vendert.
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<469/655hp 668/841m 261mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
Vendert has fled!
Vendert walks south.
<483/655hp 680/841m 315mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day s
Meadow Lane
[Exits: north south west]
A member of the Timaran city day watch keeps an eye out.
<483/655hp 680/841m 314mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
They aren't here.
<483/655hp 680/841m 314mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day s
Meadow Lane
[Exits: north east south west]
(White Aura) Vendert is here.
<483/655hp 680/841m 313mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
Your wrath maims Vendert!
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<483/655hp 680/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day
Vendert's turmoil wounds you.
Your wrath misses Vendert.
Your wrath decimates Vendert!
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<466/655hp 680/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day wrat
Vendert's kicked dirt misses you.
Vendert has some small wounds and bruises.
<466/655hp 680/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day Your heavenly wrath MANGLES Vendert!
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<466/655hp 650/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day
[* ] You parry Vendert's turmoil.
[** ] You parry Vendert's turmoil.
[** ] Vendert parries your wrath.
[* ] Vendert blocks your attack with his shield.
[* ] Vendert parries your wrath.
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<466/655hp 650/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day flst
Vendert's turmoil injures you.
Vendert's turmoil wounds you.
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
[** ] Vendert parries your freezing bite.
Your wrath maims Vendert!
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<432/655hp 650/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day You summon forth a stream of flame.
Vendert is blinded by smoke!
Your flamestrike mauls Vendert.
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<432/655hp 630/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day
Vendert sighs.
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<432/655hp 630/841m 313mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day
Vendert has fled!
Vendert walks east.
<432/655hp 630/841m 313mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
They aren't here.
<432/655hp 630/841m 313mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
They aren't here.
<432/655hp 630/841m 313mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day e
A dark alleyway
[Exits: east west]
(White Aura) Vendert is here.
A large, filthy looking rat scurries around.
<432/655hp 630/841m 312mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day murder $$
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
Your wrath maims Vendert!
Vendert's turmoil wounds you.
[** ] Vendert parries your wrath.
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
[* ] Vendert parries your wrath.
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<413/655hp 630/841m 312mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day
Vendert has fled!
Vendert walks east.
<429/655hp 643/841m 361mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day s
murder $$
Entrance to the Guild of Ninjas
[Exits: north south]
A merchant wanders around, looking for things to buy.
<429/655hp 643/841m 360mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day
Vendert walks in.
<429/655hp 643/841m 360mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day s
Your wrath decimates Vendert!
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<429/655hp 643/841m 360mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day murder $$
[***] You parry Vendert's turmoil.
Vendert's turmoil wounds you.
[** ] Vendert parries your wrath.
Your freezing bite mauls Vendert.
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<410/655hp 643/841m 360mv> shaft defensive [city aggressive] day
Vendert's eyes suddenly burn like hot coals as he is gripped by insanity!
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<410/655hp 643/841m 360mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flee
No way! You are still fighting!
Vendert's wild turmoil injures you.
Vendert's shield smash misses you.
Your wrath MUTILATES Vendert!
Your wrath maims Vendert!
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<397/655hp 643/841m 360mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day You do the best you can!
Vendert has quite a few wounds.
<397/655hp 643/841m 359mv> no opponent no opponent [inside aggressive] day n
murder $$
Entrance to the Guild of Ninjas
[Exits: north south]
(White Aura) Vendert is here.
A merchant wanders around, looking for things to buy.
<397/655hp 643/841m 358mv> no opponent no opponent [city aggressive] day Your wrath maims Vendert!
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<397/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flee
Vendert yells out his warcry.
Vendert yells 'Lord of Anguish, consume my soul with your unholy might!'
Vendert's stunning warcry DISEMBOWELS you!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<354/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
[** ] You parry Vendert's turmoil.
Vendert's wild turmoil DISMEMBERS you!
Vendert's shield smash decimates you!
[* ] Vendert parries your wrath.
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<272/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
Vendert knocks you senseless with a full on bodyslam!
Vendert's bodyslam MUTILATES you!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<235/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
[** ] You parry Vendert's turmoil.
Vendert's turmoil devastates you!
Vendert's shield smash mauls you.
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
Your weapon advantage overcomes Vendert's parry attempt.
Your freezing bite decimates Vendert!
Vendert has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
<180/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flee
Vendert's turmoil devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
[** ] You parry Vendert's shield smash.
Your wrath maims Vendert!
Your wrath maims Vendert!
Vendert looks pretty hurt.
<151/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day flee
Vendert knocks you senseless with a full on bodyslam!
Vendert's bodyslam maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Vendert looks pretty hurt.
<116/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
Vendert's turmoil mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Vendert's turmoil MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
[** ] You parry Vendert's shield smash.
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
Your freezing bite mauls Vendert.
Your wrath devastates Vendert!
Vendert looks pretty hurt.
<55/655hp 643/841m 358mv> shaft dual_wield [city aggressive] day
Vendert's turmoil devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Vendert's turmoil decimates you!
You are incapacitated and will slowly die, if not aided.
You have been KILLED!!
You turn into an invincible ghost for a few minutes.
As long as you don't attack anything.
What the fuck is this? Every time I fight fucking Vendert or Taudon they sit there and bash bash bash or rage body body body and I fucking die to five and six round lag combos. I don't have enough fucking health to survive that shit. What good is 800 mana if chain bash just takes me up the ass every time?
also my equipment
I recall saying that in a previous log.
hybrids are still good against non pet class spellcasters. rangers and necros eat you. I actually told Vendert and Taudon to kill elf paladins by just spamming bash in game when they were attacking that other elf pal who's currently 50, because it was an ez win to kill a low rank pal with a unholy strength human dk spamming bash.
they've taken that idea, run with it, and are finally proving the loss of dodge seriously screwed dks against fighter classes and lag skills in particular. That one less defense also equates to getting hit much more often against pets and mobs. This effect is lessened for humans, given that they have 21 str and better shield block potential than elf or drow, particularly drow.
In my last log I showed it, and one particularly brain damaged denizen of invokation talked about sanc time, as if it mattered, and the imm who logs as blarg said "blah blah deserve to die for disadvantage", as if it was disadvantage that killed me.
There's an issue with elf/drow in that they have low strength, at 18. Davarius said before that "fire giants having the highest strength equates to the best chance of stopping parry". Since parry is strength based, we can assume that, given both players' skills at max 100% and dropping them as variables, what's left is a strength vs strength check, or in other words, the lower your strength, the less you parry, the higher your strength, the more you break enemy parry. This is exemplified here http://ar.invokation.net/logs/view.php?id=4894 The loss of dodge very specifically nerfed elf races. What do we think would happen if rogues lost dodge? what would that fight look like vs a giant? Yet, with this loss of dodge, hybrids were not granted any other means of protection like some weaker forms of mage protection, especially post combat module.
The most successful dks have been human, same for paladins. This isn't coincidental. The kill/death ratio of non-human hybrids is shitty, consistently shitty. this is not coincidental.
the special hybrid armor skills are supposed to protect you from bashes, but It seems clear that the protection isn't working.
ar.invokation.net/logs/view.php?id=4951 a giant gives ONE round of lag to a human warrior. It's clear that size equates damage, while str vs str equates lag time.
level difference is a major player in skills successfully working. This is understood. taken into account, the total value for elf/drow hybrids succeeding at parry is (level difference * str * skill level). an inferior str for parry doesn't work for a 500 exp hole race, the reason for the 500 exp hole is dodge via 23 or 24 dex. autosneak doesn't protect you from dying in combat, it only helps to run or attack first. the loss of dodge was a bigger nerf for elves than humans, who, as is pointed out, will get 1 round of bash from a giant if they get hit, and can protect themselves with shield block and parry better if they are lagged.
Just keep playing until you condeath. davarius and all the other imms kept ignoring me when I brought up all the points that I fully understood as to why hybrids are subpar. they ignored it because they thought it was just someone bitching, despite the fact that I play almost solely hybrids.
Its stupid, but if you want them to fix the obviously broken hybrids, people have to eat a ton of deaths and condeath for them to even bother looking,.
dav - "just curse a one handed and wear a shield and noone's robbing you of defenses".
my last log proved that was a flaw. It seems clear that the only way to get out of combat is to make THEM want to flee by doing too much damage for them to stay in combat with you and want to skirmish. in order to do that, dks would have to give up defenses. I'm not sure how a pal could do that, since wearing a few good pieces of affsave destroys paladin offensive, and then again if you have bash you can eschew saves completely and just lag them to death, as per above.
As you cannot be "defensive" with a hybrid and survive, you have to be offensive. As switch;bash shuts down offensive, what's left?
Erg, you can't really be calling the past 100 dead dks with 0-30 k;ds all played by incompetents, can you?
It seems like noone knows how to play hybrids the "right way". If noone can play them "the right way", maybe its an issue with hybrids and not with 100% of players, since every player has done them and gotten shitkicked.
But Paladins simply suck. You are like healers with a little bit more damage but without everything that makes healers survive.
you can't even parse the graveyard for ALL of the dead dks, let alone dead drow dk.
Do the same for paladins, and I can guarantee you in the first 10 characters you analyse from both hybrid classes that you will see a trend of immense deaths and little to no kills.
Now, if you search dark-knight or drow in graveyard you'll get approx 28 results, and ven if yo search dark knight your results will still have some other classes in t herm, stupidly. additionally, thre's over 100 dead dks in the fresh graveyard, so the search function can;'t even find them all.
Heres a 0-61 dj.
There;s no way someonme can have 0 kills with any class. even the most incompetent can get at least 1 pk with an illithid.
http://ar.invokation.net/logs/view.php?id=4947
Vendert raged zerker dual wielding flails (segment) against a Two handing (BETTER GEARED) warrior overheading with a two handed shaft (both style and type advantage) and I still almost bought it both times. You will never I dont care what your gear is, stand head to head with a hybrid against a raged zerker like that. It does not have anything to do with Hybrids. Zerkers are beast. vendert has like 1400-1500 health raged, gets free lagskills (warcry, berserk) probably another free 200 hp from beserke while raged ect. I dont know why you think Hybrids are the problem. I can show you several hybrids that are competent. Lorelle, Mazrain, (who was that justice dk that did good in the last year or so? There are more.
Yes, Astemus, you must have been drunk. I know how zerkser go. I wasnt trying to point out what skills the zerkers have to use after raging. I was pointing out that the pally knows he's about to get lagged to death, and to flee right after vendert raged, run around and heal. Berndamir cant just stand there getting stunned/bodyslammed to death when he had an opportunity to flee/heal. Switch to polearm too.
So...run, gain more health, switch to the correct weapon, and maybe grab a nice mangle from a charge. I said it before, you could have won this fight.
Yes, hybrids are tough. but, you can be somewhat successful with them.
Geeze, I'm ganna have to make a hybrid and kick peoples asses?
"hybrids are a challenge, but they're more than capale and perfectly fine. [I know i haven't played one successfully or gotten them to high level, and also that there's 100's of dead hybrids with terrible records in the graveyard, but none of that means they aren't fine and I'm going to continue saying they're fine when I haven't even played one myself]."
I'm not saying it in a mea way, I'd really like xenyar and anyone else who claims they're fine to play one themselves. What would likely happen is that after playing one and doing badly, people will either agree that hybrids have issues or they'll say "But my horrible record is no bearing on hybrids and Im sure a better player would do fine". Which is the line that's been happening for the past three years.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=drow+dark-knight+graveyard+abandoned+realms
Oh. By the way, hundreds of warriors have shitty records too. And so do hundreds of healers. And hundreds of invokers. Trust me on this one. But I'm not going to go through the graveyard. That's your job.
http://abandonedrealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6031
http://abandonedrealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5377
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special mention of higher kill/deaths
http://abandonedrealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7398
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notice the trend, the humans are the ones with positive ratios?
There you cock. Don't ever say I didn't give you anything, lazy ass. 1 hour it took for this.