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Battle Royale Keepers v Warlords 3v3- Tearea Perspective

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1. Aelaldric [reply]

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   Szrevan was eliminated next. Then someone tried to slip into the arena while most of you were wounded or incapacitated.
   
   Or so I hear....
   1. Szrevanooc

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      Szrevan used his cunning to get into a safe space on low hp by getting himself eliminated on purpose:
      
      <148hp 117m 276mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] You decide to venture on by yourself!
      You have left Tearea's group.
      You stop following Tearea.
      
      <148hp 117m 276mv> [no opponent] [no opponent]
      You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Shaghroth!'
      Shaghroth delivers a devastating blow!
      Shaghroth's fury MANGLES you!
      You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Tearea!'
      [** ] You dodge Tearea's jab.
      [* ] You parry Tearea's elbow slash.
      Tearea performs the form, leopard stalks over thin ice!
      Tearea's lightning kick maims you!
      Shaghroth's fury DISEMBOWELS you!
      Shaghroth gasps for air as he snaps out of his insanity.
      aff
      Aragmon the Cyclops rushes in and carries you off in a stretcher.
      The Arena Platform
      | This is a high platform above the arena, with a ladder crafted
      | in a way that one could only traverse downward to the arena's
      | entrance. Ice baths are around to help the weary fighters
      | recover from their grievous wounds before returning to the
      @ | world of Serin. The wind grumbles at you annoyed, reminding
      | you that this is not a place for a long-term stay.
      |
      |
      |
      ---------+
      
      [Exits: down]
      (White Aura) Mazin is kneeling on the ground.
      Fenlorn is kneeling on the ground.
      You are too hurt to do anything for a while.
      
      
      Then Szrevan proceeded to castigate you for your sins and sent you running laps around Serin:
      
      <971hp 156m 480mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] op d
      You open the door below you.
      
      <971hp 156m 480mv> [no opponent] [no opponent]
      Camadus walks in.
      A special guard walks in.
      
      <971hp 156m 480mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] af
      You are affected by the following:
      Power:: tenacity : modifies save vs spell by 8 for 3 hours
      Skill: double grip : lasts permanently
      Skill: warcry : modifies save vs afflictive by 6 for 7 hours
      : modifies hitroll by 6 for 7 hours
      Power:: cognizance : lasts for 15 hours
      : lasts for 15 hours
      Set : Titanium Tenor : modifies armor class by 28 permanently
      : modifies save vs mental by 15 permanently
      : modifies constitution by 3 permanently
      : modifies damroll by 3 permanently
      
      <971hp 156m 480mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] d
      
      Aelaldric grins evilly.
      
      <971hp 156m 480mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] Fresh, Green Grass
      o-o-*| Lush, short grass grows on this part of the field. Wild
      | | | flowers sprout here and there showing their bright colors
      o-o-o| to the pollinating insects nearby. The buzz of these insects
      | | || is rampant.
      @-o-o|
      | | ||
      o-o-o|
      | |
      o-o |
      ---------+
      
      [Exits: north east south up]
      A large orange pumpkin is here, looking festive.
      An adept of Davairus provides arena services.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      An avian city guard yells 'You will feel the weight of the law, Aelaldric!!'
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] scan all
      Aelaldric rides in on a nightmare.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] You scan all around.
      You scan north.
      You scan east.
      You scan south.
      You scan up.
      *** Range 1 (up) ***
      (Charmed) A special guard stands here, red with anger.
      Camadus the High Priest of the Templars is here.
      Tearea the Red Lotus, Standard Bearer of Warlords is here.
      Mazin the Grand Master of Seasons is here.
      (Charmed) A stalking, black panther is here, quietly serving its master.
      Fenlorn is resting here.
      (Charmed) A bloated, old bloodhound is here, plodding along beside its master.
      Gerok the Battlemaster is here.
      Shaghroth the Volcano of Infinite Rage is here.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] murder Aelaldric
      Aelaldric yells 'Help! I am being attacked by Szrevan!'
      You execute the form, strike of the cobra!
      Your cleave >>> ANNIHILATES <<< Aelaldric!
      Aelaldric has quite a few wounds.
      
      <971hp 156m 479mv> [segment] [offensive] mounted
      Your cleave MANGLES Aelaldric!
      Your thrust *** DEMOLISHES *** Aelaldric!
      Your tail MASSACRES Aelaldric!
      Aelaldric's illusionary spectre devastates you!
      [** ] You dodge Aelaldric's illusionary spectre's attack.
      Aelaldric's illusionary spectre mauls you.
      Aelaldric looks pretty hurt.
      
      <919hp 156m 479mv> [segment] [offensive] mounted
      Aelaldric has fled!
      Aelaldric rides up on a nightmare.
      
      <919hp 156m 479mv> [no opponent] [no opponent] overpower trip Aelaldric
      They aren't here.
   2. Davairus

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      hah that actually is really smart
   3. Ozaru

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      So szrevac is a dragon, but keepers don't have to go after the top dog anymore because warlords and keepers have a truce? seems silly
   4. Xenyar

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      Exactly what Ozaru said. Not just silly....but dumb. I don't know the in-game reasons for it(probably none). Maybe warlords wanted a truce so they could avoid the thrill of WAR(lords) and battle with them?
      Tearea...the cabal leader..is this what you think is best warlords? Avoiding having to fight them? (I know that decision wasn't made by you, and you are forced to go along with it) . Just curiosity.....
      I'm with Ozzy.. Keepers should be going after the big boys at the top of the charts, not holding their asses and playing grab ass.
   5. Xenyar

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      Sorry for the double post...but is this what you want as well Fenlorn? Leaving the top togs exempt from your list of "threats".
   6. Mythalien

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      3 warlords. 3 keepers. 1 knight. 1 Justice. 0 legion.
      
      Warlord+keeper allied.
      
      ….right…….
   7. Davairus

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      warlords dont just try to smoke everybody, they try to attain honorable kills, which means they would be willing to disarm to have a fair fight with an opponent, and szrevan is on the record of doing that. he has done that. and this is without getting into the fact he's rolled a crummy slith warrior. but you guys just see a bunch of gear and say most powerful cabal. well, cabal of 3 people. is that we call an overbalanced cabal these days? because if it were any smaller, a levelling group could roll them. there's only 1 guy in that cabal whose beaten everybody and earned the spot. one. the others do ok, but they die regularly and acquire their gear alone. and besides this obvious point, there just isnt a keeper who can kill him. he's proven himself to be very tough, so what are they supposed to do? spam fatality on the keepers? the armistice is just to save keepers from getting massacred pointlessly. and then beyond that point, why should keeper just go after the guys with the best pk record? worked great vs rhoa didnt it. i've already pointed out many times already that any keeper is welcome to a no holds barred fight to the death with any warlord whenever they want. you know that they are down for whenever. nobody is avoiding shit. in fact last i checked keepers co-ordinated quitting out together so they wouldnt have to fight some gangbang of evils 2v1 (uncaballed is the workaround for pendulum and everybody abuses it)
   8. Ozaru

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      thats not true. I've killed Tearea across 3 different characters and each time szrevan has logged in automatically deathmarked me (OOC obviously) invaded said cabal and killed me. How is that honorable when the fight had nothing to do with him.
      
      Slith warriors are not crummy highest str outside mino/giant
      highest dex outside halfling/elf/drow
      highest con outside mino/giant/dwarf
      
      Couple that with dirt and mal resistance without a real vuln .
      
      This might seem like a foreign concept to you, but some of us like to win fights 1 on 1 so when shit seems imbalanced people stop going in that direction. Im not saying slith warriors are imbalanced, but they sure as shit have a ton of perks with minimal drawback.
      
      You literally just shit on a cabal, keepers are now strife since their cabal duties don't apply to their big brother warlords. Gerok waited like a full month to get into Keepers and you are telling him that he's not good enough to kill Szrevan so don't bother trying lol and its in his best interest not to. I mean with my shaman justice he made every excuse not to attack me because I wasn't the real dragon which was fine.
      
      But now you are saying he doesn't need to fight because he will most likely lose? The fuck is the point of keepers then, just make them a coterie and close the cabal, shits embarrassing
   9. Davairus

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      its avenging the warmaster. a dwarf warlord would deathmark you for blowing a raspberry at the warmaster nevermind full looting and desecrating them. that is their master/teacher. how many movies do you see where the hero of the movies dies trying to avenge their master. answer = none, they always succeed, and those movies do well despite how cheesy they are. this was the plot of kickboxer where tiger tong po cripples that guys older brother and van damme (less skilled) fights for his brother vs the badass thereafter. this was the liu kang character (avenge kung lau) etc, this is the plot of star wars with luke skywalker running after vader because of the death of obi wan kenobi. it was the plot of rocky 3 where he fights the steroids russian guy to avenge apollo creed. its pretty clear any time the master is killed, the students fight to avenge their mentor, because it is like killing a parent, its just doing the right thing. warmaster = master.
      
      i am only telling you dont bother trying to kill szrevan with a keeper because theres literally no basis. keepers being doormats anyway has nothing to do with that. youre talking about murdering a character that disarms itself for a fair fight (there is literally proof of that). and keepers made chasing people over gear an option a very long time ago. everybody decided it was the least fun thing ever and so it was removed from the guidelines. if you want to be in denial about that fact and go screeching about the balance anyway, explain to me why the keepers are co-ordinating their quit-outs on two douchebag uncaballed evils looking retarded af. if evil is so weak, how come there is uncaballed ranger called hoazen or something that kills 2 of the 3 warlords easily, and is doing it over and over. explain to me why keepers should have any problem with the only character in the game keeping those 3+ characters plus whatever you decide to roll in check. ill tell you why, its because keepers have their heads shoved up their asses and dont do anything except look at the pendulum which is cabal-only. i can literally power rank and autoinduct myself into keepers in one week and pad the cabal numbers into "balance" and act like the good aligns (also leveraging uncaballed) havent been doing winter every friday for the last year and half. this is not the badass true neutral cult cabal i designed, its just dumbass neutral. please, i cannot bear this stupidity anymore. whyre you guys so hellbent on forcing them to spam die. cuz you lost? if not that, then why? and why not use the breathing room to rethink their first principles. like for instance how do you even begin to justify being "at war" when the whole idea of neutrality was to abstain from taking sides in conflicts. as soon as they step into good vs evil, they took a side. at least when keepers was exclusively about equipment, they did not have this quandary. we can do better than this.
   10. Tearea

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       People who don't have any skin in Keepers or Warlords IC shouldn't really be complaining about it OOC. I count a total of 8 people that have the right to complain about it. That's the bottom line. I won't talk about the current state of Keepers and Warlords OOC because its not your fucking business and IC arcs currently revolve around this. If your character IC has a problem with the current situation IC handle it there or do something IC to address your beef. You have the power to make changes IC. Let it play out. You will then learn why your complaints are absolute bullshit.
       
       Ozaru, im not sure where you developed this rage/hate boner for me but i've always tried to be supportive of you(even pushed for you to get into warlords) and try to build some sort of depth with your characters but you constantly shit on it. Keep coming at me, it'll at least keep things from getting boring. You can brag all you want about killing me but i've ended my fair share of you as well. I find it absolutely hilarious that you(and others) continually try to engage with me because you feel confident against me while conversely trying to avoid Szrevan because you know hes better than you. I don't try to represent myself as one of the most skilled players out there and die often enough but I still don't back away from those fights. Again if you observed or interacted with the roleplay on any level you would understand the roleplay reasons behind the way Warlords is currently operating instead. You didn't really even have any interest in it even when you got in. Instead you don't get it and just want to tear it down. I actually get your frustration though. You just want to roll trash and bottom feed and the trash man keeps collecting. Sucks to be you, huh?
       
       Xenyar- I can't answer your question. I love you(and hate you) though.
   11. Aelaldric

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       @Szrevan Yes, attacking warlords to be whisked into a safe room to avoid death is an excellent ploy. Maybe not what one would expect a warlord to do, but it worked. You would make an excellent legion, you have the devious mindset for it. You’d have to work on your tracking abilities outside the arena though. Excellent gear and chain bash is a fantastic combination but you can’t kill what you can’t catch.
       
       @davairus “two douchebag uncaballed evils” - why are you so eager to antagonize people? Also stating categorically that keepers cannot kill Szrevan is ridiculous. Three keepers could gang up and pulverize him in an instant. Or Xenyar could become a keeper and do it himself. Also saying the keepers quit to “avoid some gsngbang of evils 2v1” - what? It was a demon and a vampire against three keepers. Then we were hoping for a 2v2 battle when one departed. We never initiated and wouldn’t have pursued a 2v1 against a keeper.
   12. Ozaru

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       No one is afraid of Szrevan, the shit I started with you was on purpose to create a war between justice and warlord lead by you. Instead you sat on the sidelines and let Szrevan do all the work, yes I target you because I know I can kill you. Szrevan is more of a challenge, I mean in one breath Dav says slith warriors are crummy, but to make things fair Szrevan has even disarmed himself to make a fight more fair. Which is it then Dav?
       
       As far as you killing me, eh who is trying to brag now, if you are going way back to Melise with those 7 duel wins, I mean nice job I guess? Going toe to toe with a monk in the arena as a shadow lol with a fiery dagger lol. But this isn't about me and you Tearea as much as you want it to be. This is about Keepers being relegated to a useless level.
       
       The whole cabal is built on balance, just because Szrevan isn't going around killing people at will doesn't mean the keepers shouldn't bring him down a notch, he is too strong that he has to disarm himself in fights to make it balanced. That is literally the role of a keeper LOL. With the other successful keepers that were killing people, what happened? Keepers are blood thirsty, their powers are imba now lol keepers suck? Keepers have had tons of successful players doing their duty and keeping people in check, if I was a keeper right now I would fight Szrevan and tell him my job is to keep the realms balanced you right now are disrupting that balance, I will fight you to the death honorably. I don't judge who is a dragon or who is causing the imbalance the game decides that lol. Huge flaw in the cabal right now for giving people the option. Its like if a justice flags someone and a new justice comes on and says meh are you sure you are a real criminal maybe you just stole some bread to feed your family.
   13. Ozaru

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       To be fair I will say this, dav created this alliance way back when it was just me and Senol in warlords and fenlorn kept getting his shit pushed in. Rhoa and whoever was the evil king back then were running wild. His plan was for warlords to help keepers until keepers could reestablish themselves. Clearly senol and I were not the right choice at the time because that plan completely failed. Maybe with Tearea, Szrevan and Shargoth were dispatched to take down the kings and queens at the time keepers would have had a shot at survival and then the balance would be restored, keepers then take down warlords and all is right in the world. That would have made for an interesting story line, but that clearly didn't happen
   14. Tearea

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       Post a log of warlords and keepers having a friendly battle and everyone loses their minds. Honestly I don't know whether to laugh at the very real and very palpable irony or cry and delete.
       
       "No one is afraid of Szrevan, the shit I started with you was on purpose to create a war between justice and warlord lead by you. Instead you sat on the sidelines and let Szrevan do all the work, yes I target you because I know I can kill you"
       
       You killed me and full looted me to start a war. You wanted a war with Warlords but didn't want to fight Szrevan, a Warlord. You accuse me of sitting on the sidelines but you deleted before I can even regear from you killing and full looting me(apparently to start a Warlord Justice war). Do you even think about what you're going to say or do you just spout rabid ramblings and pray they are coherent?
       
       You say slith warriors are unbalanced or overpowered. Why don't you roll one and demonstrate for everyone. I haven't seen any other slith warrior because bad dirt, shitty lag skills, and lower HP sucks on paper. You obviously think otherwise. I thought you liked strong combos capable of killing people easily?
       
       If you want to see changes in keepers, or in warlords either make one so your opinion actually matters, or make a character that can impact it as an outsider. Rainy day games of "what I would do, what you should do" are pointless and just antagonizes those who are involved IC and kills the immersion for everyone. Everyone that came before the current cast of characters properly mucked it up and left it up to us to clean it up and make something better from it. Its like watching the moron on the side of the street telling the firefighters how to put out their house because they left the stove on.
   15. Ozaru

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       I don't like warriors because weapon switching gets hindered with a shield, thats why i have made 1 serious warrior in probably 10 years. Yeah on paper they look pretty damn strong, and with tenors and in the warlord cabal and in the hands of a capable player they look god like. I mean every dog has his day you beat him I beat him with a monk. Not sure what your point is about this.
       
       
       I've had an impactful Keepermaster and made numerous keepers where I was the only one fighting everyone and took my lumps against the best fighters won some great fights, lost a lot more. I never asked for help against, Eurayel, Dhua, Ygin, Connundo, Vya, Trovo, Fought them all and killed them all except for Eurayel. Whether my experience qualifies me to speak on this topic or not, I will still say that if keepers are designed to take out the dragon then have a little asterix saying only go after dragons who are not warlords. Szrevan is killing people honorably right? So if a legion kills 10 people 1 v 1, leaves their eq are they exempt too from keepers? You can disagree with me, but base your disagreement on the cabal guidelines not just your opinion of my comments lol. thats what this whole thing was about, not pk skill, not equipment or not some made up beef between me and you. For what its worth kudos to you for dying, dusting yourself off and keep coming back for more i only wish i could do that.
       
       And of course I wanted to start a war with warlords, I just lost lol. I knew killing you would bring on ur buddy szrevan and I didn't play it right when I had the greatest advantage. I lost the advantage and deleted. I don't know how much time you needed to regear, but if you die stay on get items, log off, log back in the next day see me standing there and waiting for szrevan to log in and then just glare at me, its hilarious. And when I say buddy Im not saying you called him and said hey come kill ozaru he killed me again. Its obvious this guy can play when he wants and it was inevitable he would log in after reading the log where you died lol.
       
       As far as immersion eh sorry I just like to make characters, fight, hopefully win early to keep me going.
   16. Tearea

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       When I logged on the next day, you were already engaged with Szrevan. I actually saw you fighting and went and glared at you in town while you were engaged with him. Rather than interfere I went about my merry way recovering equipment. Not sure what you wanted at that point, but yeah getting the 6000 or so relics and 500k gold necessary to replace the pieces I lost takes a little bit of time, yeah. You want a faster turn around maybe don't full loot in the future.
       
       My point with Keepers and Warlords right now isn't that people are/aren't qualified to weigh in but that it is the privilege and responsibility of those currently involved to deal with it how they see fit IC. Or not deal with it. Thats the cool thing about staying around and roleplaying. It gives you a stake in the game and some control over what direction things take.
   17. Davairus

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       There are players who join Legion and out of vanity or whatever reason it is, they decide to stop looting people, but its not because they care about you. its probably you had nothing worth looting and OOC they dont want you to quit AR because they trash pk'ed you
   18. Hirendan

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       Eh. Could be that. Could also be that they’re knowin that ye ain’t gonner be doin much fighting if’n yet stripped naked an they’d rather be fightin ye than scratchin their arse while yer goin an gettin more shite.
   19. Davairus

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       you know what ozaru i realize my mistake with you was i underestimated how smart you are, now that we've suffered through this crap i realize you were a step ahead of everybody when you just killed your character off in the first scene. well played actually
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2. Gerok [reply]

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   There was no coordinated quit out, Davairus. Your defense of your precious warlords is just on such a hair thin trigger that you convulse into some manic episode every time someone suggests they get taken down a peg. Then you conjure reasons to point fingers at other cabals. You have no evidence of your coordinated quit out. All three of us had been on for over three hours (and even longer the day before that). It was 2AM where I’m from. I don’t know about y’all, but I was fucking tired.
   
   Also, prior to that, there was a whole conversation as to why Aelaldric wasn’t considered a threat, despite being top 5 killer. I noticed you stayed conspicuously silent on that. I could sit here and point a number of ways your precious Warlords have acted dishonorably. But this ain’t the place for that, dick. I’ll work that shit out in character. Now go take your baseless accusations into some other echo chamber of the internet where you can spew bullshit and not be held accountable for it.
   1. Davairus

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      yeah no evidence, except for that part where i watched the co-ordinated quit out being co-ordinated on the cabal channel. lol , what the fuck dude
      he literally was like "ima hang around until you finish that note so you can quit" on the keeper cabal channel
   2. Gerok

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      Yup classic 'woke up, saw what I thought was a personal attack and reacted' case of foot-n-mouth. Oops, my bad. So you've got evidence for a coordinated quit-out after I logged. OOC though? Eh. It's not really worth drawing attention to, considering the hour that it occurred at and how long we'd all been online to begin with. We were all ready to log.
      
      My other points are still valid, just like I'll point out one of yours that's valid. If you think Keepers are not operating as intended anymore, and other people agree Keepers are not fun as their edicts currently dictate, then it's time for change. Now's the time to do that, because you've finally got three active ones and can poll for opinions. Solicit feedback. Accept other peoples' perspectives that differ from your own. I've got ideas. I'm sure the other Keepers do. It's just a matter of whether you're willing/able to hear it without getting insanely defensive.
   3. Davairus

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      Except its literally nothing to do with me. I am not the Keeper imm leader. When I was, they were gangbanging decked out people equipped in just TT, and everybody said they hated it. Like I understand it felt bad when a Keeper would have you hand over Frostbrand swords. But compliance has been totally removed. I would not have done that, I would've just refined the allotment system e.g. separate limits for equipped and in sack.
      
      You should give your feedback to the cabal leader, who I assume is allowed to dictate cabal policy.
   4. Ozaru

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      when were you ever the keeper imm leader LOL ganbanging in just TT are you just making shit up I need names because Ive been in keepers the most out of everyone here and that never happened.
   5. Davairus

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      Right when I created this cabal. I might've put a figurehead on it, but I was doing the work. atonement used to reverse the hit/dam so it pwned badass rare'd out guys. It used to be called Ascetic because it was a cabal that swore off rare items. it was also called sentinel for a little while
      the only thing left from what I made is killing the vault guardian for eq
   6. Davairus

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      found this from 2013, didnt realize it got renamed so much but here you go, this is what later became the current cabal item golden retriever/delivery service (and warlords is already the cabal that tries to beat the top guys, so im equally confused why we need another)
      you can see how it began hardcore here, and over the years got relaxed via item limits, turning blind eyes until at this point keepers help you do winter
      
      
      redemption tablet
      
      The redemption cabal exists to unite those with a common goal, namely the
      combat of the prevailment of rare and unique items and subsequent domination
      of the realms by those who wear a multitude of them. Only by complete
      removal of these from the realms can we be assured that fairness is present
      and balance is brought to the realms. With the release of these powerful
      items into the realms comes power beyond the strengths of their wearers,
      indeed this is the very reason they are sought. We will remove them from
      their possession and kill them if we must to take those items away from
      the hands of those who will gladly take full advantage of their power. No
      mercy will be given to any who resist the demands to turn them over.
      
      For the remainder of this text the term 'special' will be used to refer to
      unique and rare items. The guidelines of cabal [REDEMPTION] are as follows:
      
      1) You do not use special items. You do not act friendly to those who have
      them, no aiding them. You certainly don't group with them. To do this
      would to be making use of the power of their wearer and hence the power of
      those items. This will not be done. Even if you both seek to kill someone
      with special items, there is no excuse for instigating a fight where your
      assistant is using the very items that are the problem we seek to correct.
      Saying 'But I will turn on him as soon as we are done.' is not acceptable.
      When faced with a multitude of opponents tooled up with special items,
      fight the one with the most first. Disregard other advantages. This way
      you can assure best that you are placing guidelines above relations.
      
      2) Your primary objective is to seek out and destroy special items, NOT
      their wearers. If they can be gotten by other means (persuasion, threat,
      or stealing) then attempt this first. If this does not work, then the last
      resort of murder is sanctioned. An opponent with no special items does not
      need to be killed. So don't. If they get their special items back from
      their corpse because you failed to retrieve the contents, you will have to
      attempt for them again at the nearest possible opportunity. When the items
      have been destroyed, the death may stop.
      
      3) The special items you retrieve are to be destroyed with the sacrifice
      command. They are not for trading or selling, or giving to a friend. If
      a friend has special items you will be required to take them from him. The
      duties of your cabal go above those of friendship, this is the price you
      pay for the abilities you are granted to take care of them. Keep your
      friends few and within the walls of our fortress, and you will find you
      have little problems of this nature.
      
      These are the rules of the Redemption cabal, fight in numbers if that is
      what it takes to get the job done, more of us means swifter restoration of
      balance to the realms. If you fail to follow the guidelines expect there
      to be demotion, uninduction or worse to come your way. We are at war with
      those who enhance themselves artificially with the use of special items,
      be it Legion, Knight, Justice or neither does not matter. They must be
      taken from their hands and destroyed - you must be willing to die for your
      beliefs, you fight for those that are without the privilige of such items,
      and may enlist their help when one willing is found.
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3. Xenyar [reply]

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   Diluting the topic at hand down to specific characters is just asinine. This isn't about Szrevan, Gerok, or any one guy. It's about the core principle of Warlords being shielded from the Keepers. This "alliance" that wasn't made by the players in-game, diminishes a great opportunity for more spilled blood, cabal wars, and all that fun stuff. The carpet got yanked out from under that potential great game content.
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      its just to save keepers from getting massacred pointlessly. and then beyond that point, why should keeper just go after the guys with the best pk record? worked great vs rhoa didnt it. i've already pointed out many times already that any keeper is welcome to a no holds barred fight to the death with any warlord whenever they want. you know that they are down for whenever. nobody is avoiding shit.
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4. Mazin [reply]

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   So there was a coordinated quit out. I was going to bed and knew Fenlorn would be leaving in a minute, so I stayed to stop him from being ganked. Thought it was the nice thing to do. I had no actual expectation that he would get ganked, but would have felt shitty had I of come back to a dead keepermaster the next day. At least if it had been 2v1...
   1. Aelaldric

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      I had no complaints or concerns about the keepers quitting. It was late and people had been on for a long time.
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      Wasn't it at all. Even so, I knew personally that you wouldn't gank me or Fenlorn, but Mazin doesn't have that knowledge, it was all RP
   3. Davairus

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      the point was keeper players going from complaining there are no evils to quitting out on them in the blink of an eye because theyre fixated on that stupid pendulum which i told warlords to ignore about 6 months ago because it’s obvious broke
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      Got it.
   5. Gerok

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      If you’re telling us then to use our discretion, can we get keeper powers activated all the time, not just when dealing with threats or at War?
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      I dont want to keep repeating myself Gerok. I didn't write the edicts and I didn't setup the pendulum. Everything I created (Keeper wise) has been erased and/or replaced. I'm not going to attempt to fix this crap while Xenyar and the boys scream everything I am doing is wrong. You can complain to the people who set up this crap. Inducting you into the Keeper cabal is the last help I am ever going to give. I swear that on my dead sisters grave
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5. Szrevanooc [reply]

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   OOC: Was not going to reply, but I'd prefer to be left out of this drama and politics. I have no stake in this Keeper alliance. I did not ask for it nor do I care for it. I solely play the game to push the limits of myself as a player and the character I am playing and always trying to learn new tactics while passing on what I've learned to those who want to learn and improve too, thus being a Warlord is a good fit.
   
   I was fine being literally on the bottom of the leaderboard for a while and I was fine dying if I could get a good fight out of it and nothing has changed, I would still fight and die if it provides fun, challenging gameplay.
   
   I started removing my armor because I started to even doubt myself, if I am really just winning because of my gear as everyone was pointing it out.
   
   Honestly, I don't know nor care, I just want to fight stuff whether to death or stun as long as there is a fight I'm happy. I'm definitely not unbeatable, the endless fights with Hraozen have gone both ways several times.
   
   So yeah, let's just all chill for a moment here, stop being so serious and enjoy the game for what it is and not drag IC stuff to OOC logboards.
   1. Aelaldric

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      I really like and respect everything about this post.
   2. Szrevanooc

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      Not trying to change any minds here, just giving you my own personal perspective. I am fine with whatever your opinion is nonetheless, would just prefer to be left out of stuff that involves drama. And @Aelaldric, you said I can not chase outside of arena, perhaps you are right, there are things irl that physically hinder my movement in-game, so that's not going to change.
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      That was just supposed to be a little friendly banter. Re-reading it now it comes across more vindictive than I meant. It can be a bit hard to convey proper meaning through text.
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      Np. I didn't get offended or such, you got a valid point there that I'm aware of. There's a reason why Hraozen is still alive. I may hit like a truck but I also move like one. The supercar speeds you guys reach are well out of my league.
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